This was probably asked and answered before, but which nation do you consider to be the easiest when it comes to conquering the world?
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I've never actuall finished a WC, I get really bored managing so many wars, and I find it very unrealistic. But that being said, I have to like England in the GC, I've gotten pretty close to WC in AGCEEP.
You can own all of France by 1450 or so with very little BB (you have all those French cores). Then you are fabulously wealthy (AS and Fr culture), have no opposition in colonizing NA, and no one can really fight you in Europe.
You can force vassalize Sp, Aust, Port, and Poland, conquer most everything else in Euope + pagans, have the four countries above in alliance, and kick off BB wars by annexing all four.
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You can own all of France by 1450 or so with very little BB (you have all those French cores). Then you are fabulously wealthy (AS and Fr culture), have no opposition in colonizing NA, and no one can really fight you in Europe.
You can force vassalize Sp, Aust, Port, and Poland, conquer most everything else in Euope + pagans, have the four countries above in alliance, and kick off BB wars by annexing all four.
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I would imagine you could vassalise eight christian countries, ally four of them (all with capitals in Europe) and wait until you have six diplomats. Then you'd annex all four allied vassals and ally with two of your remaining vassals all in one day. You could then dipploannex these two vassals when diplomats became available. The last two vassals would have to not share a border with you (i.e. they were force-vassalised) and be outside Europe. So they'd be what? Ethiopia and Nubia? Methinks they're not worth the effortaegandolfi said:
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Underhand said:I would imagine you could vassalise eight christian countries, ally four of them (all with capitals in Europe) and wait until you have six diplomats. Then you'd annex all four allied vassals and ally with two of your remaining vassals all in one day. You could then dipploannex these two vassals when diplomats became available. The last two vassals would have to not share a border with you (i.e. they were force-vassalised) and be outside Europe. So they'd be what? Ethiopia and Nubia? Methinks they're not worth the effort
What are you talking about man? What do YOU think is the easiest country for WC?
Anyway, your plan will fail, since as soon as you diploannex one nation, the relation with your other vassals will drop (especially those not allied with you). So with six diplomats it would be more like: Annex one nation, send gift of state to your next target (and any vassals with relations under the 100), annex the next, send gift of state etc. So in the best case scenario (being the gifts of state each give at least +50 relations, you'll still need six diplomats to diploannex three nations.
That was in reply to what aegandolfi said about force-vassalising large christian nations. I should have quoted him. I apologise for any confusion caused.Grundius said:
As for which country I think is the easiest for WC, I haven't a clue. I have never even attempted WC. I would guess it's probably England, Austria or France.
Yeah, you're right. I didn't think it through properly. In that case it would have to be five nations in Europe (dipplo-annex one and ally the spare in one day) and as many as you like outside of Europe, provided that they're Christian and don't share a border with you. This would restrict you to Nubia, Ethiopia, any of the pagans who have converted to Christianity and any colonial revolters there happen to be. Those last two categories assume a late-start WC.Grundius said:
I'd say France too. Much nicer leaders than England and doesn't run in to serious unrest until the end of the game...
France - forcevassalising and diploannexing europe and colonizing africa and s.india and eastern russia.
Leave england and spain colonizing the americas and diploannex them later.
Colonize west and s. africa and you can annex all african pagans afterwards.
Colonize S.India and expand through india and china and indochina.
Colonize Eastern Russia and expand in china from there too.
After diploannexing all europe, expand through the middle east and n.africa.
Leave england and spain colonizing the americas and diploannex them later.
Colonize west and s. africa and you can annex all african pagans afterwards.
Colonize S.India and expand through india and china and indochina.
Colonize Eastern Russia and expand in china from there too.
After diploannexing all europe, expand through the middle east and n.africa.
Spain is a good country for a WC. You get CBs on all Muslims and all pagans, plus you can go counter-reformed and get CBs on all the protestants, too. You have mostly good monarchs, a lot of good leaders (though admittedly a lot of bad ones, also), and a lot of explorers and conquistadors.
What about the Ottomans? They have so many -only vaguely justifiable- cores and quite a few state cultures, it seems they were custom made by Paradox to conquer the world.
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They have bad events in the second half of the game, when you're doing your WC.
England is definately the easiest for WC, Anglosaxon and French culture, good set of explorers and conqs., good set of leaders and events.
France is second, Spain third.
I recall from discussions years back that French minors were a popular choice for "best country to conquer the world with." This was because a number of them had the option to transform into France while also keeping all of their state cultures, if the "real" France was eliminated early enough in the game. Some of French minors (Alsace?) have both French and German as cultures.
But maybe things have been changed in the intervening years so that this won't work so well.
But maybe things have been changed in the intervening years so that this won't work so well.
Well as many has stated before France, England and Spain are the best countries.
Other possible countries are Muscowy/Russia (hard at beginning, but when you get to Central Asia and Siberia conquest is easy), Ottoman Empire (some bad events, but experienced player can do conquest anyway). China is also a country which has huge potential, early expansion against weak neigbourghs and choosing not to turn inwards are the keys to success. When I once played as China I controlled huge empire from Japan to Poland and Arabia. I had colonies in America, Africa and Australia.
Other possible countries are Muscowy/Russia (hard at beginning, but when you get to Central Asia and Siberia conquest is easy), Ottoman Empire (some bad events, but experienced player can do conquest anyway). China is also a country which has huge potential, early expansion against weak neigbourghs and choosing not to turn inwards are the keys to success. When I once played as China I controlled huge empire from Japan to Poland and Arabia. I had colonies in America, Africa and Australia.
I'm shocked!!!
How come nobody mentioned Austria yet ??? (I hate the power of Austria & Spain in EU 2 btw )
How come nobody mentioned Austria yet ??? (I hate the power of Austria & Spain in EU 2 btw
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I mentioned AustriaAttilio said:How come nobody mentioned Austria yet ??? (I hate the power of Austria & Spain in EU 2 btw
French minors can be fun, but they are not easy.
Navarre can become France, getting iberian, basque, and french cultures. However they start with just two cores, so actually killing off France to supplant it will be hard, and you'll end up with fairly high BB. It is certainly doable, and in the long run, having Iberian culture is a huge win. But not easy at all early.
Brittany is the other minor that can become France and have an extra culture: gaelic in this case. Brittany is easier than Navarre in two ways: better positioned, and they get cores on most of France so expansion is BB-light. On the other hand, having Gaelic is not much of an advantage. The price you pay in terms of difficulty in starting the game just is not worth it.
The other minor nations that can become France just have French culture. It used to be that Luxembourg could, getting French and German cultures (which is a powerhouse). But that went away at some point.
Navarre can become France, getting iberian, basque, and french cultures. However they start with just two cores, so actually killing off France to supplant it will be hard, and you'll end up with fairly high BB. It is certainly doable, and in the long run, having Iberian culture is a huge win. But not easy at all early.
Brittany is the other minor that can become France and have an extra culture: gaelic in this case. Brittany is easier than Navarre in two ways: better positioned, and they get cores on most of France so expansion is BB-light. On the other hand, having Gaelic is not much of an advantage. The price you pay in terms of difficulty in starting the game just is not worth it.
The other minor nations that can become France just have French culture. It used to be that Luxembourg could, getting French and German cultures (which is a powerhouse). But that went away at some point.
I'd say the easiest nation is either England, France or Spain, depending on context.
If you're playing on Very Hard, then you get the true BB wars, and therefore you don't need CBs. In this case I'd choose France or England. It's very hard to choose the better nation between them.
England has a slightly stronger start than France because of its two cultures. But France gets great leaders, at least for early WC. (I've never done a late WC so I won't comment on that.) I also like France's events a bit better.
If you're playing on anything other than Very Hard, then you don't get the true BB wars. In this case I'd go with Spain since it gets those handy CBs on almost everyone.
If you're playing on Very Hard, then you get the true BB wars, and therefore you don't need CBs. In this case I'd choose France or England. It's very hard to choose the better nation between them.
England has a slightly stronger start than France because of its two cultures. But France gets great leaders, at least for early WC. (I've never done a late WC so I won't comment on that.) I also like France's events a bit better.
If you're playing on anything other than Very Hard, then you don't get the true BB wars. In this case I'd go with Spain since it gets those handy CBs on almost everyone.