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But it's not native. That's the point. We're trying to find the non-borrowed titles here.
well, it's rather hard to find native titles anywhere, since most have origins in Latin or Greek
 

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But we have plenty of them. Boyar, Voivoda, Zhupan, Kniaz, Namestnik, Vladyka, Pravitel'...
We Slavs are a bunch of complicated people :D
 

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In polish dzierżawa means something like "leasing" in english, so for me it's just plain stupid in context of some empire. ; p

Well, that's just how our languages developed over the time. So now zapomnit' means to remeber in Russian and to forget in Polish :)

But we're talking about 10th century AD here. And back then all our languages were very similar. And you still have the word http://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/dzierżyć#pl with that old initial meaning - to hold.
 

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But we have plenty of them. Boyar, Voivoda, Zhupan, Kniaz, Namestnik, Vladyka, Pravitel'...

Kniaz, or knez and other abbreviations actually come from old german if i'm not mistaken.
 

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We Slavs are a bunch of complicated people :D

Slav people best people. Many stronk :cool:


Kniaz, or knez and other abbreviations actually come from old german if i'm not mistaken.

Proto-German "kuningaz", as supposed by Vasmer. But given how it's the same in also Baltic languages this could just be a common early Indo-European word.
 
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Well, that's just how our languages developed over the time. So now zapomnit' means to remeber in Russian and to forget in Polish :)

But we're talking about 10th century AD here. And back then all our languages were very similar. And you still have the word http://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/dzierżyć#pl with that old initial meaning - to hold.

It also means "to remember" in Bulgarian. one of the original slavic nations and the ones to invent Cyrillic. If anything, this just goes to show that Poland is full of weirdos and should be disqualified from having a vote in this discussion :p

"Slovenska Derjava" is fine.
 
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Works if this hypothetical empire covers the area of OTL!Yugoslavia, and maybe MAYBE Bulgaria. It works significantly less well when you add Poles and Bohemians and Russians.
I know I know, I was trying to be sarcastic and make commentary on how a pan-slavic nation is doomed to fail by drawing parallels between it and Yugoslavia, but I was too lazy to write a complete comment so I left it at that
plus Yugoslavia just means southern slavs so it wouldn't work to this hypothetical all inclusive slavic nation
 

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Boyar and Zhupan is from Turkic/Mongol root.

There is quite a few East Slavic loan words from Turko-Mongol roots, considering 1) A lot of Russian tribes were tributes to Khazaria and 2) The Mongols kind of took over most of Russia.

Rus was actually called the Rus' Khaganate at one point, styled after the Khazar Qaganate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rus'_Khaganate
 
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Maybe its like asking what the best name for a pan-ethnic-Germanic-decent nation would be (that is, all the peoples of any Germanic decent, be they in Scandinavia, England, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, or North Africa (yes, some Berber or Maghrebi groups are descended from Visigoths)). There's no one name that fits all of those distinct cultures. Even when I'd say they share and define the same greater Western European culture, just as the Slavs basically define the Eastern European.

In any case, I'd say don't name for any other reason than something very specific in your in game world. If its hard to define and nothing comes to mind, maybe name it after your dynasty.