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So let's say your king is leading troops and wins a battle and gains a military trait, only instead of just a list of 3/4, you get to pick one from every trait there is in the game.

Which trait do you pick?

If your answer is context specific, make sure to name which contexts.

(Assume your King has a healthy marshal skill and a solid heir, so you'll be using him in battle on a regular basis)
 

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Flat Terrain for both Eastern Europe and Britain, Rough Terrain for Central and Northern Europe, Holy Warrior or Cavalry Leader if Byzantine.
 

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I'd take Unyielding or Organized, most likely Organized.

Even if it doesn't affect the battle itself, it's easy to see how extra movement speed can be almost OP in campaigns, especially when almost everybody moves at the same rate.
 

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Unyeilding is the overall best, having a good general with that trait can really turn to tide of the battle.

But having a leader with organizer will move an entire army faster than normal, allowing you to suprise enemy formations much easier and reach better defended locations before the enemy can.

I'll pick organizer over any other trait if given the choice.
 

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Organizer is excellent. Cavalry leader is pretty versatile considering it covers all types of cavalry and only penalizes you for light infantry, at least it's great for retinue commanders in large countries (or remnants of large countries :p ). I've had surprisingly good results with experimenters (for some reason most of my dukes pick it up while leading their liege's armies) although the bonus doesn't seem very good on paper.
 
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Organizer > Unyielding > Inspiring Leader
Organizer: Movement is everything in this game, and anything that lets you move faster than the enemy, gives you a solid leg-up.
Unyielding: Morale Defense and Defense that makes your armies that much tougher, and it applies to all terrain types and works on both offense and defense
Inspiring Leader: Similar to Unyielding, except it only works well if your leader is leading the center flank.
 

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I love unyielding. I have an unyielding flat terrain leader duke of Flanders where all his terrain and all the counties I'm pressing claims on are flat. It is terrific.
 

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Organizer > Unyielding > Inspiring Leader
Organizer: Movement is everything in this game, and anything that lets you move faster than the enemy, gives you a solid leg-up.
Unyielding: Morale Defense and Defense that makes your armies that much tougher, and it applies to all terrain types and works on both offense and defense
Inspiring Leader: Similar to Unyielding, except it only works well if your leader is leading the center flank.

Second this.

Inspiring leader is also a great roleplay leadership trait. I love making my ruler the army commander if they have this trait :D just makes me imagine my ruler riling up the troops before the big battle.
 

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Cavalry leader in your BYZ/central Europe retinue is beautiful. I find the best military trait is having a higher military score. One general can have like 3 traits that improve his ability but the guy with 5 more martial is the better choice (Most of the time at least)
 

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Well, kind of depends on his other traits. Good martial + wroth + patient + cavalry leader + Byzantine Emperor = killing machine.
 

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Before the latest patches I would have an organizer and two flankers for my main armies, and would comb through the character page looking for guys with these traits to invite to my court. Now these traits seem a lot more rare, but I am becoming quite fond of holy warrior after taking all the Christian lands I want, and am despoiling infidel lands to stay entertained.
 

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Holy warrior is sick with a high martial leader that is fighting infidels, especially when combined with other traits like patient and cruel.
A great example is this grandmaster of the Templars that assisted me as King of Jerusalem.
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Organizer.

It's almost OP, especially if you have a larger domain and/or are land-locked. Best of all, the beneficial effects occur outside of combat. You can use an Organizer to get into position quickly and switch to a General better suited to the terrain and enemy you are facing.
 

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As others have said, Organiser hands down. Especially useful when hunting down armies that keep escaping your forces by a couple of days. That extra speed usually tips the balance.

After that it's the terrain expert (Flat/Mountain/Rough/Desert) traits, depending on where you are: Mountain Expert even comes before Organiser if I'm playing in Georgia, Anatolia or Persia.
 

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Wroth and patient are mutually exclusive. Wroth also is bad for leaders, as it sometimes makes you choose a poor tactic.
In the normal way, it's exclusive, but there are events which can give you it without removing patient.