Best great work?

[Karlington]

The other path gives you scholar, a boat load of prestige, and 300 military tech point, so it's good to know the other one is good too.

Yeah, and IIRC the heliocentric one can also lose Craven or gain Brave if you are Catholic and stand up to the Pope like a Galileo with balls, right?

I usually pick the "something weird" path these days because I like to get the Necronomicon. The +5 Learning boost is invaluable to me when I want to check out different societies yet still use my Hermetic artifacts.

 

[cake_destroyer]

Gardens do seem the best but I am not sure if this age reversing actually works. I used this decision every 10 years and my ruler still became infirm at the age of 5x.

I agree

 

[Kurblius]

Gardens do seem the best but I am not sure if this age reversing actually works. I used this decision every 10 years and my ruler still became infirm at the age of 5x.

Definitely works. My Empress got pregnant at 45, resulting in a genius kid. Wouldn't have been possible without the fountain of youth. A few added years can definitely change the course of history.

 

[Unready]

Statue of Horse.
My only lunatic character started to build it, and it was paused till the end of the game on 99% of Phase I because I had no more lunatic rulers.

 

[Castios]

Statue of Horse.
My only lunatic character started to build it, and it was paused till the end of the game on 99% of Phase I because I had no more lunatic rulers.

Lucky you. I end up lunatic and/or possessed rulers so often.

 

[Rydelfox]

Statue of Horse.
My only lunatic character started to build it, and it was paused till the end of the game on 99% of Phase I because I had no more lunatic rulers.

Good news! Like Mystic, you can also get Lunatic from the Scholorship focus strange studies.
So, summary of this thread: reading the Necronomicon solves all of life's problems.

 

[Unready]

Good news! Like Mystic, you can also get Lunatic from the Scholorship focus strange studies.
So, summary of this thread: reading the Necronomicon solves all of life's problems.

I'm still not convinced to actively pursue lunatic trait.
Contrary In most of my game I'm trying to get rid of it.

 

[Castios]

I'm still not convinced to actively pursue lunatic trait.
Contrary In most of my game I'm trying to get rid of it.

Same here. Lunatic is fun to have from time to time but most of the time I would prefer to stay sane.

 

[Less2]

Great Harbor provides a HUGE trade zone boost. If you're MR and put this thing in your capital with your trade zone you will make essentially infinite gold.

How exactly does this work, doesn't trade value cap at +100%/+50%?

https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Trade_zone

I don't think its terribly useful for MRs who normally have their trade zone fairly high already.

 

[Kurblius]

How exactly does this work, doesn't trade value cap at +100%/+50%?

https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Trade_zone

I don't think its terribly useful for MRs who normally have their trade zone fairly high already.

Agree especially since Trade zone value give diminishing returns to Trade Zone bonuses, so you need ever more trade zone value to get the next % in Trade Zone bonus. Don't think you can ever reach 100%. Fortunately, the Harbour has many other bonuses like the Tax % increase and siege rate which would be more beneficial (though I'm not convinced the siege bonus is working properly).

 

[DPS]

I usually pick the "something weird" path these days because I like to get the Necronomicon. The +5 Learning boost is invaluable to me when I want to check out different societies yet still use my Hermetic artifacts.

I only get the option to take the "weird" event path about 10% of the time or less. Is there a way to get it more often?

As for RP, I always build the palace in my capital.

 

[knppel]

Grand Fortress all the way.

 

[Karlington]

I only get the option to take the "weird" event path about 10% of the time or less. Is there a way to get it more often?

As for RP, I always build the palace in my capital.

You must be running a mod, my friend. The "weird" path is always available. It's the option called "Is there something... strange out there?" (and the heliocentric path is "How do the stars move?").

 

[Castios]

Grand Fortress all the way.

But why?

 

[DPS]

You must be running a mod, my friend. The "weird" path is always available. It's the option called "Is there something... strange out there?" (and the heliocentric path is "How do the stars move?").

Nope, no mods.

 

[Karlington]

Nope, no mods.

Having verified the game files I can assure you that, at least in the current version, the option is always available. You can also verify this for yourself in events\wol_scholarship_events.txt at lines 87-114.

 

[Ichiban]

Gardens are great (mostly for fountain of youth) but I want to say a nice few words about the Great Harbor, and passive percentage buffs for the economic min-maxer

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Firstly, I'm playing a Merchant Republic (Pisa) and I've put my GH in Messina, which I own - I've put it there because if I put it in Pisa instead I'd be losing it in the election roundabout (as I do NOT want to constantly challenge (I'll explain why)), whereas putting it in Messina I still get the passive buffs, even if I don't get the official ownership. I have also built two barony level cities in Messina - San Marco d'Alunzio & Troina I think they are, both of which I hold in my demesne personally (for those of you who don't use minor baronies, let me teach you the ways of the passive buff). I also have my republic special holding in Messina whenever I am not the doge. Sadly the "A Town Is Born" event has not fired yet, but I still have two features to build on it. When it triggers I will build another city and I will have 5 holdings in one county, all having buffs applied to them.

It's all about city tax. The tax buffs are all added in the first half of buffing (before adding stewardship). Each stage gives you 2.5%, road tolls +5%, Lighthouse +5%, Harbor office +10%, piers should add +2.5% according to the wiki as well but for some reason my game says 0.25% - regardless that's a +30% tax increase per city. In addition you also get 130 trade value as well on the province, plus another 30 for the wonky piers. Remember this is being applied potentially to 5 different holdings.

Where my other cities make on average 110 gold a year (at a ruler stewardship of 15+), these cities rake in the mid 140's and my republic holding jumps to the 150's/160's from the 110's/120's, in fact these make enough money (+150's/160's) to account for more than an additional city, without the need to hold such. I'm not especially adding on the passive buffs you get when the county is prospering ofc, because that is applied in other counties as well, and I'm not even touching the option to send your steward to increase tax in a county (although it would increase your income dramatically). Regardless, this makes you an economic powerhouse.

EDIT: Just done the numbers, and it's about 15/16,000 gold a century extra on what you would have already made (assuming you keep control of the county and keep raiders away), and well over 50,000 gold per century (for just one county)
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Yeah, it's no fountain of youth, but as a niche MR min-maxer, I do like the Great Harbor

 

[knppel]

But why?

Because it's more knightly than a palace
Our own smiths are capable enough, hehehe.

 

[Rubidium]

Having verified the game files I can assure you that, at least in the current version, the option is always available. You can also verify this for yourself in events\wol_scholarship_events.txt at lines 87-114.

It actually does vanish if you have the game rules set a certain way. Specifically, you need to have enabled the "Supernatural Events" rule or else that option is not available:

        trigger = {
            NOT = {
                has_game_rule = {
                    name = supernatural_events
                    value = off
                }
 }

My assumption is that @DPS generally plays with that rule off.

 

[Kellvan]

Looks like with new patch the royal palace is back on race again.