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HOO but what about your POP? how many of them were reactionary? aren´t American POP very liberal?
anyway how are you holding up with han abusolute monarchy (Long live oure FRIST American KING!!! all American LOL)
Actually, I think Americans are very conservative (in their ideology, not necessarily their policy, though that became the case in my game - I used my few early-on elections to get a lot of jingoists and state caps). Again, I've been playing PDM so long that I've forgotten what vanilla is like, but I changed the US's national value (that exists in vanilla, right?) from "Liberty" to either "Order" or "Military Ideal" (I think military, but I can't remember). That may have some effect on keeping the pops conservative, but they started out very much right-wingers.

I think that a fairly small percentage were reactionary (like, 6%ish or something) by the time of the royalist revolution, but they were really the only radical group (anarcholiberals were just starting out, no commies or fascists... and no Jacobins in a democracy) around. They were pretty militant and, naturally, soldiers gravitate towards reactionary ideologies, so my few men stationed in New York had an easy march to Washington.

It ended up not being a really reactionary populace (things went well for most of the game - I got high war exhaustion and, consequently, attempted communist revolutions twice during the late game - 1900s - because I was at a world war with the UK twice), but the monarchy shifted from HMs to Absolute quite a few times (reasonably high militancy leads to the party in power launching a coup, and I had the reactionaries in power, so...). In 1935, I was at war with Panjab (after just coming out of my last war with the UK) and I had an anarcholiberal faction in power. My militancy was high enough that I got a coup which turned me into a bourgeois dictatorship, though.


I think I did cheat in that game by giving myself liberal upper houses... I didn't realize that in an absolute monarchy the upper house is the dominant party, so I thought the only ways to liberalization were revolution and cheating for a liberal upper house (back on-topic, this is part of the reason why absolute monarchies are so awesome).

Anyway, it ended up being one of my favorite games (my favorite was probably still the HMs monarchy of Canada... I played as a democratic Argentina and a monarchy->Bourgeois dictatorship Germany that ruled all of Europe). It's definitely fun to play a country in a way completely antithetical to their historical outcomes, and try to think of a storyline way of justifying that (I thought that a Zach Taylor/Andrew Jackson type marched on the white house b/c his troops weren't getting paid or something... or that an Abe Lincoln decided to centralize a lot of power in the presidency and establish a dynasty).
 

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I generally most like Constitutional monarchy, because I usually play greater powers and don't want to bother building my own factories... and the stupid pops usually choose interventionism or worse (note: germany has a LF conservative party, so there democracy would probably be fine too)
Unfortunately, Germany's LF conservative party is (a) only available after 1878 (b) Anti-Military.
 

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By the way guys do you know what makes POP fasist?
 

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The biggie is Revanchism, which you get by losing wars and/or letting other countries continue to own your cores.
 

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The biggie is Revanchism, which you get by losing wars and/or letting other countries continue to own your cores.

Which is unfortunate, since fascist dictatorship is literally the best in the game; a fascist upper house will do literally anything you want them to as long as fascists are in charge of the lower house, and in dictatorships, they always are. Plus, state capitalism is the best economic system (hint: shift-click expands all full or nearly full factories) and all fascists have it.