So I just got V2, and I'm wondering, what's the best form of government? Democracy? Communist? What?
Best form of government?
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Probably monarchies. If you can appoint your government then you can pick whichever set of game rules you want to play under.
Communism and any other form of ideological government forces you to play under the rules of that government. So my Britain has just become a Bourgeois Dictatorship so we play under anarcho-liberal rules (essentially libertarianism, no social services, ultra freedom and capitalism for all). Communism has to play under state planning rules which means you micro manage all your factories.
Democracy can be tricky because you simply cannot control your government type easily. If you don't give into reforms your population will become more and more liberal (or socialist) until you get endless rebellions. You also get stuck with stuff like anti-war which you may not want.
Communism and any other form of ideological government forces you to play under the rules of that government. So my Britain has just become a Bourgeois Dictatorship so we play under anarcho-liberal rules (essentially libertarianism, no social services, ultra freedom and capitalism for all). Communism has to play under state planning rules which means you micro manage all your factories.
Democracy can be tricky because you simply cannot control your government type easily. If you don't give into reforms your population will become more and more liberal (or socialist) until you get endless rebellions. You also get stuck with stuff like anti-war which you may not want.
Obviously this is subjective ("best"), but the most pliable governments are monarchies, because a monarch can choose what party will form the government (so you get to decide what policies you want). HM's monarchy gives you the most options as to political parties (you can put any party - including, I think, communists and fascists? - in power). Absolute monarchies, on the other hand (I suppose any government with the "ruling party" upper house reform, but this is mostly the case of absolute monarchies), get an upper house constituted by the party in power (so, if you want a 100% liberal upper house as an absolute monarchy, just put a liberal party in power. You'll get to pass as many reforms as that liberal bloc can afford... same with any ideology). Doing this with liberals/political reforms will make you an HMS (and either reforms you enact or events will force the upper house reforms on you, meaning you can't continue). I don't know if you can put socialists in power as an absolute monarchy (you can't put commies, fascists, or anarcholiberals). If you can, have fun forcing through social reforms before you get liberalized.
Basically, absolute monarchies transitioning to HMs offer the most player freedom. Presidential dictatorships are also good (reactionaries are strategic b/c state capitalism and jingoism are powerful expansionary policies in game). Many people like proletarian dictatorships and fascist dictatorships because they, like pres dictatorships, are expansionist (usually jingoist)/state capitalist. Going fascist means you've screwed up and lost wars, though, so getting there has a price. Basically, these forms of government are "best" insofar as they offer the most desired policies (most people like being state cap and jingoist). Democracy offers the same freedoms HM does, but you need to game elections (it's good for smaller nations, then... really awesome for one province minors, like the Manhattan Commune, whose government you can change in one or two elections).
I like bourgeois dictatorships because... well, I'm an anarcholiberal. Unfortunately, I don't play anlib much (I accidentally became one in 1935 USA, and I turned Germany into one by cheats in the 1910s). I usually play monarchies (I turned USA into one in the 1840s - not by cheating).
Basically, absolute monarchies transitioning to HMs offer the most player freedom. Presidential dictatorships are also good (reactionaries are strategic b/c state capitalism and jingoism are powerful expansionary policies in game). Many people like proletarian dictatorships and fascist dictatorships because they, like pres dictatorships, are expansionist (usually jingoist)/state capitalist. Going fascist means you've screwed up and lost wars, though, so getting there has a price. Basically, these forms of government are "best" insofar as they offer the most desired policies (most people like being state cap and jingoist). Democracy offers the same freedoms HM does, but you need to game elections (it's good for smaller nations, then... really awesome for one province minors, like the Manhattan Commune, whose government you can change in one or two elections).
I like bourgeois dictatorships because... well, I'm an anarcholiberal. Unfortunately, I don't play anlib much (I accidentally became one in 1935 USA, and I turned Germany into one by cheats in the 1910s). I usually play monarchies (I turned USA into one in the 1840s - not by cheating).
the best forms of government are the ones that enhance the freedom and power of the state.
Considering in paradox grand strat games, "We are the state", as it were.
I'm sure one could write a lengthy treatise on how a game like this could provide an excellent prism to view the dynamics of power and its relation to government and the people. Where one can actually somewhat reflect on the power and game of the elites from their perspective.
Considering in paradox grand strat games, "We are the state", as it were.
I'm sure one could write a lengthy treatise on how a game like this could provide an excellent prism to view the dynamics of power and its relation to government and the people. Where one can actually somewhat reflect on the power and game of the elites from their perspective.
The best government, gameplay wise IMO is HM's Government. Bourgeois dictatorships take second. As the LF economy can make larger countries' industry skyrocket. Communist governments get some cool flags, but are hellish to manage.
The main benefit of communism is it allows for the most inhumanly fast industrialization possible, take Russia: prior to the Bolshevik revolution Russia was essentially the same as it was in the Middle Ages in terms of its economy and society, which was still an absolute monarch with peasants tied to land by serfdom. After the communists took power the Soviet Union in a space of 20 years became an industrial colossus amoung Germany, The UK, and the US.
In Vicky 2 the social reforms allow you to rapidly educate your pops gaining literacy, improving promotions and tech. The only issue is the Max workhours reform: minimum wage and safety regulations also impact factories but not like the cap on work hours, since they directly penalize how much output they have. I'd only pass those if a movement got too large and militant and I already had a profitable industry.
Personally I've only had positives going commie as the Netherlands, my daily profits multiplied by 5 and literacy shot up from 63 to 93 within a few years
In Vicky 2 the social reforms allow you to rapidly educate your pops gaining literacy, improving promotions and tech. The only issue is the Max workhours reform: minimum wage and safety regulations also impact factories but not like the cap on work hours, since they directly penalize how much output they have. I'd only pass those if a movement got too large and militant and I already had a profitable industry.
Personally I've only had positives going commie as the Netherlands, my daily profits multiplied by 5 and literacy shot up from 63 to 93 within a few years
Russia changed a lot since the middle ages. Half of middle ages Russia was a merchant republic. Absolute monarchies didn't exist in the middle ages. Serfdom increased in Russia after the middle ages were over. The idea that Russia was somehow medieval in 1918 requires you to ignore too many facts about Russia and the middle ages.
Tsarist Russia did industrialise, but it focused its industrialisation too much in the Polish territories that never joined the USSR.
Communists have uses but HMS government's ability to swap between communist and liberal is better than having a proletarian dictatorship unless you want to go to war and make everyone communist.
You can control what party gets elected in HoD, since it has NF's for moving your pop to your preferred party. This makes HM's worse.
A Democracy with pluralism, full citizenship and some others that give emigration bonuses and you get a huge advantage.
As to the more detailed things like planned, LF, intervention, it really depends on the size of your country, if you have one of the huge ones, managing it manually is beyond annoying. Having to add railroads to some 50+ states can be less than fun. On the other hand it can be quite beneficial when you just invented a new factory and your capitalist completely refuse to build it.
A Democracy with pluralism, full citizenship and some others that give emigration bonuses and you get a huge advantage.
As to the more detailed things like planned, LF, intervention, it really depends on the size of your country, if you have one of the huge ones, managing it manually is beyond annoying. Having to add railroads to some 50+ states can be less than fun. On the other hand it can be quite beneficial when you just invented a new factory and your capitalist completely refuse to build it.
I meant medieval in the sense that the economy was based on serf agricultural labor, of course they had modern technology, I meant from a economic and societal prospective
Absolute monarchy would probably be the best government type. You have (almost) total control of your nation and you can basically do what you want.
In regard to your question with CB, if there is a communist government then they can have a CB to spread communism, but then again all other nations have a CB to uninstall communism and automatically install their own government type.
In regard to your question with CB, if there is a communist government then they can have a CB to spread communism, but then again all other nations have a CB to uninstall communism and automatically install their own government type.
It's personal choice really, I love communists because they pass all the reforms I want for a militant/industrialised nation but again, I do enjoy playing as a Democracy with cheating to get the Communist reforms.
A quick question - if I play as a HMS goverment and install a communist or fascist party, will the government type automatically change to Proletarian or Fascist Dictatorship? I seem to recall that is what happened in Victoria 1, could be wrong about that though.
Fascism, without question - you can enact ANY social reform to keep Mil low. You are not forced into micromanagement hell of planned economy, and capitlists can expand and build factories and railroads. Its the hands down best of all worlds.
Actually, most Fascist parties are State Capitalist: Capis can build factories, but you have to expand them.
SC just increases the factory owner cost. Your pops can still expand them themselve.
I like fascist because I like eating up 3 state countries in one gulp (that my only be PDM tho, i don't remember).
Correct me if i'm wrong there.
Also being able to pass any reform you want at all times is super nice, tho it can be used in a pretty gamey way.
Correct me if i'm wrong there.
Also being able to pass any reform you want at all times is super nice, tho it can be used in a pretty gamey way.