Best country to form Persia

[Mr. G]

Which is the best country to form Persia nowadays? I have tried a few and think it is Ajam, but would love to hear some input on this. QQ is stronger than Ajam, but must reform its government and Ajam has many more of the needed provinces. Timmy and QQ are usually not strong enough to beat Ajam in the early game and it can hide behind the mountains pretty well.

 

[Calanon]

Ardabil is objectively the best and right choice.

 

[Greene]

What about the easiest country to form Persia?

 

[Mr. G]

What about the easiest country to form Persia?

Yeah, but it is also about being on a safe distance from the Ottomans and having a solid possibility to get a good defensive line against them.

 

[fredrikslicer]

What about the easiest country to form Persia?

Ajam as far as i know

 

[Brynjar]

It depends on what you mean by "best". It's fairly easy as Aq Qoyunlu in 1.24, as Ottomans is more than willing to do all the heavy lifting for you.

 

[Firefan404]

Yeah, but it is also about being on a safe distance from the Ottomans and having a solid possibility to get a good defensive line against them.

I just done it with Ardabil, a bit rough at the beginning but you become strong really quick if you catch oppotunities (after the death of Shah Rukh the region is a complete mess for at least 20 years.

Concerning Otto, I was lucky they got weakened by Skanderberg / Hungary / Venice alliance but I succeded in crushing them a around 1550 with alliances with QQ and Mamluks -which made a really good ally for ~150y)

 

[Rabid]

Ajam is by far the easiest since you start with most of the provinces you need and you can quickly expand into the Caspian minors while waiting for the Timurid civil war to start. Switch to Shia by accepting rebel demands and you should have an easy time.

 

[makaramus]

easiest: ajam
strongest: Qara Qoyunlu(more devolpment and better ideas)

As ajam you gonna face troubles same with qara qoyunlu but at later dates. so just play as qara qoyunlu and have a good early game goverment

 

[Dominion]

Hisn Kayfa has the strongest idea set of all nations in the region.

 

[Mr. G]

Ajam is by far the easiest since you start with most of the provinces you need and you can quickly expand into the Caspian minors while waiting for the Timurid civil war to start. Switch to Shia by accepting rebel demands and you should have an easy time.

I don't always get the right rebels, only sometimes. What triggers them?

 

[Dominion]

What triggers them?

Drawings of Mohammed.

 

[Rabid]

I don't always get the right rebels, only sometimes. What triggers them?

Send missionaries to a Persian culture province and the rebel type should change to Shia.

 

[Mr. G]

Send missionaries to a Persian culture province and the rebel type should change to Shia.

I tried with my capital, but that did not help. WIll try again

 

[Voigt]

You should have a Decision to change your Religions from Sunni to Shia, you don't need Rebels for that.
I think Ajam is that easy, because you get easly attacked by Timur and QQ pretty early on. You can have luck and that Timur dies before they can attack, but this is not guaranteed. So Especially for MP this can be a Problem.

With QQ you are pretty strong and expand easily, and to Conquer Ajam should be no problem. I didn't try AQ oder Ardabil yet.

 

[Mr. G]

You should have a Decision to change your Religions from Sunni to Shia, you don't need Rebels for that.
I think Ajam is that easy, because you get easly attacked by Timur and QQ pretty early on. You can have luck and that Timur dies before they can attack, but this is not guaranteed. So Especially for MP this can be a Problem.

With QQ you are pretty strong and expand easily, and to Conquer Ajam should be no problem. I didn't try AQ oder Ardabil yet.

Yes and no. I have it, even if it costs 2 stab, but it requires the muslim pack in the digital extreme edition that came out with the game back in 2013. Sometimes when joining MP games, the host does not have the DLC and the decision is not there.

You have a point regarding Ajam.

 

[Voigt]

Since I am always the host in my MP Games, I didn't know that. I just have every DLC there is.
But good to know.

 

[Mr. G]

Since I am always the host in my MP Games, I didn't know that. I just have every DLC there is.
But good to know.

Hehe, I didn't either, until I did not find the decision and checked the wiki...