New patch changes the whole building system, so you will have far less buildings per province to build - probably less on average than France/Austria/PLC, since newly colonized stuff will have low development.
Best countries to play as before 1.12?
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Lol, that doesn't really follow—you can build more buildings with Russia than with a country with fewer and richer provinces, you just probably shouldn't.
As a matter of fact, Russia is a great nation to build buildings with: Russian is one of the largest cultures in terms of number of provinces and tax base; this means that you have a huge swath of primary-culture and cultural-union provinces (which give the best return on tax and manpower), and you can easily dominate your home trade nodes to get the most out of the production and trade-value lines.
You can always use the previous beta patches if the the new one hits right before you're satisfied with your current game.
Yeah, that post was made thinking that the guy suggesting Russia meant that the patch will not change how you play it.
India or China, they are likely to change the least from the patch. I just finished a Dai Viet game, taking over SEA/China, was mildly entertaining.
Quite looking forward to trying out the HRE after the patch, if each capital gets a fort, doing anything in the HRE could be very difficult.
Quite looking forward to trying out the HRE after the patch, if each capital gets a fort, doing anything in the HRE could be very difficult.
I wouldn't be surprised if they gave Albania another province with all the new provinces, one of the most requested province changes. Is a fairly large province and deserves another one to help simulate Albanian resistance to the Ottomans.
If they wanted to make the situation historically accurate, making the start harder would be the wrong way to go.
A japanese daimyo, one of the jurchen tribes (manchu), Anyone in India (Bengal has an achievement), Cuzco/Inca, Aztec and Byzantium would be good choices.
They've said quite a few times they aren't adding any new provinces to Japan so that won't be affected by the new patch.
The Jurchen tribes may be affected by the looting and fort changes. If Ming is smart about fort building it could become a lot sturdier in future patches so conquest may get much harder.
India currently has easy westernisation due to the Goa event for Portugal. That makes the two achievement runs much easier.
Cuzco/Inca and Aztec are both countries with massive coasts meaning the forts won't make a difference. They probably won't get new provinces and development will probably be of little relevance since they would both aim to colonise their whole continent.
Byzantium will probably get another nerf. The topic has come up a lot recently and its fairly clear that their start isn't actually that hard. I'd expect Ottomans to get a bigger, combined galley fleet and Poland/Austria/Aragon to get changes that make them less likely to ally you.
They've said quite a few times they aren't adding any new provinces to Japan so that won't be affected by the new patch.
The Jurchen tribes may be affected by the looting and fort changes. If Ming is smart about fort building it could become a lot sturdier in future patches so conquest may get much harder.
India currently has easy westernisation due to the Goa event for Portugal. That makes the two achievement runs much easier.
Cuzco/Inca and Aztec are both countries with massive coasts meaning the forts won't make a difference. They probably won't get new provinces and development will probably be of little relevance since they would both aim to colonise their whole continent.
Byzantium will probably get another nerf. The topic has come up a lot recently and its fairly clear that their start isn't actually that hard. I'd expect Ottomans to get a bigger, combined galley fleet and Poland/Austria/Aragon to get changes that make them less likely to ally you.
Still won't help if it explodes to rebels due to silly MoH and inward perfection mechanics.
I am currently coming to the end of a fun game with Orissa going for tropical wood and Indian empire, just an isolated London and a little bit of Columbia to go. Westenisation was indeed easy by taking Goa, too easy really as it required little effort or forward planning.
I just had Daimyo and Indian games and I don't have El Dorado.
Currently I am probably going to play Uzbek, as I haven't ever played horde and new patch forts will constrain free conquest a bit. Though it will also buff looting... But I can increase looting gold amount in defines.lua
(hey it is way too weak in 1.11!)
Also I have always wanted to form Bukhara. And community-made project linked in my sig gives it nice NIs so...
Currently I am probably going to play Uzbek, as I haven't ever played horde and new patch forts will constrain free conquest a bit. Though it will also buff looting... But I can increase looting gold amount in defines.lua
(hey it is way too weak in 1.11!)Also I have always wanted to form Bukhara. And community-made project linked in my sig gives it nice NIs so...
Daimyos might be affected in 1.12 due to all the capitol forts, just like the HRE. Might be worth trying a game before it hits.