In the current 1.24.1 Japan update what would the best strategy be for Byzantium. I'm not sure how CoC changed the dynamics of that play through.
Best Byzantium Strategy as of Japan?
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It’s pretty much the same as it has been since Mandate Of Heaven. The only real difference is that now it is easier because the Ottomans have been nerfed and are actually defeatable now
Start as Ottomans, conquer Byzantines, boost Constantinople decision, move cap to non Byz core, return any non Byz cores to weaken yourself, use all mps to develop Byz cores, insult Poland and Mamluks, declare bankruptcy, then release and play as your Byzantine vassal.
Or you can just use the cheat codes for EU 4. If youre ok with cheating why waste time with conquering and releasing.
The answer was posted above mine: it's the exact same strategy as the last handful of byz threads. Someone strangely disagreed, so I offered an alternative. Next time maybe I will just say "use the console" as you suggest.
So you want to ****** ***** then?
As of this patch, you really need just 2 things
1. Hungary must rival the Ottomans
2. Ottomans must take the Last Crusader Bastion decision
1. Move all your troops to the Peloponese
2. Delete the fort in Morea
3. Build some heavies
4. Ally Hungary, Wallachia and Albania
5. Wait for Ottomans to declare war for Rhodes, or perhaps something east
6. If they attack Knights, expect them to send at least 15k troops to siege Corfu
7. Prepare your navy, which should have at least 2 heavies
8. Declare War, call in all 3, promise them land. Set your desired provinces in advance
9. Block Corfu, your fleet combined with Venice and Genoa should be enough. If you are feeling dangerous move the heavier ships to Thrace to help siege Edirne
10. You have about equal troops, Skenderbeg himself and soon enough Janos Hunyadi.
11. By the time the Ottomans peace out with the Knights you should have control over the Balkans. If you are lucky you can take all of Greece.
12. As for the peace deal, give Albania its core, and it will be happy. As for the other two, give Hungary Vidin and you should appease them(or perhaps force-release Bulgaria there, although this could easily lead to conflict
13. After that, the world is your oyster. Poland will love to ally you, Mamluks usually aren't an issue too. I suggest building up a Navy to help fight Venice and Genoa for the islands. For some reason the AI doesn't build Heavy Ships at all
Have fun!
As of this patch, you really need just 2 things
1. Hungary must rival the Ottomans
2. Ottomans must take the Last Crusader Bastion decision
1. Move all your troops to the Peloponese
2. Delete the fort in Morea
3. Build some heavies
4. Ally Hungary, Wallachia and Albania
5. Wait for Ottomans to declare war for Rhodes, or perhaps something east
6. If they attack Knights, expect them to send at least 15k troops to siege Corfu
7. Prepare your navy, which should have at least 2 heavies
8. Declare War, call in all 3, promise them land. Set your desired provinces in advance
9. Block Corfu, your fleet combined with Venice and Genoa should be enough. If you are feeling dangerous move the heavier ships to Thrace to help siege Edirne
10. You have about equal troops, Skenderbeg himself and soon enough Janos Hunyadi.
11. By the time the Ottomans peace out with the Knights you should have control over the Balkans. If you are lucky you can take all of Greece.
12. As for the peace deal, give Albania its core, and it will be happy. As for the other two, give Hungary Vidin and you should appease them(or perhaps force-release Bulgaria there, although this could easily lead to conflict
13. After that, the world is your oyster. Poland will love to ally you, Mamluks usually aren't an issue too. I suggest building up a Navy to help fight Venice and Genoa for the islands. For some reason the AI doesn't build Heavy Ships at all
Have fun!
Exactly. I was thinking maybe I had missed something and that is why someone disagreed. I was waiting for them to respond why it was wrong.… I guess I will keep waiting or just assume that they were disagree because of the Ottoman nerf comment
One thing Byzantium-related actually was changed this patch: The Ottomans are now much more likely to get the City of the World's Desire mission first, meaning Byzantium rarely goes 10+ years without getting DoW'd like it could in the previous patch. Constantinople is usually Konstantiniyye by 1453 now.
It involves Hungary, stronger navy than the Otto(which involves destroying their transports more than anything else) and waiting for the Ottos to declare war on Rhodes and swarming the island with 30k troops and then attack, rekt their navy and laugh as you full siege and they die of attrition.
Even if you don't get all your cores back, Mamluks will declare on them and they always return what I didn't take in the war. This strat can be done with or without Hungary, they just speed it up, and can be good if Ottos have allied someone that won't let their troops sit in a island and die, like Crimea or AQ
Even if you don't get all your cores back, Mamluks will declare on them and they always return what I didn't take in the war. This strat can be done with or without Hungary, they just speed it up, and can be good if Ottos have allied someone that won't let their troops sit in a island and die, like Crimea or AQ
It's gotten easier when things go right. But it's gotten harder to have things go right. As the ottos declare on you first and Hungary rivals you alot more. It still takes around an hour or more for me to get a start that can win the first war.
Skanderberg has worked wonders for me this patch. Ally Hungary, Albania,Wallachia, and whoever else is dumb enough. Park your troops in Albania and wait until the Otto declare on you or Albania and be smart about the war.
Skanderberg has worked wonders for me this patch. Ally Hungary, Albania,Wallachia, and whoever else is dumb enough. Park your troops in Albania and wait until the Otto declare on you or Albania and be smart about the war.
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Saw the AI actually trap Ottoman army on Negroponte in 1.23 and couldn't help but smile. It was a Byzantium game too, and Aragon, Albania and Hungary beat the Ottomans for me. Fighting the Ottomans, even with Hungary allied, is really hard unless you can trap one of their armies somewhere.