"Bella Gerant Alii" - A Balance Improvement Mod for CK II

[postm00v]

hey Gaga, could you please explain the requirements for a Holy War. When I was a count, I could declare war on my neighbours if they were of a different religion, now in the same game as a King, I cannot. I border muslims on both sides of my Kingdom, yet I have no Holy War CB.

Do I have to be a crusader maybe, or I need a prestige/piety requirement ?

EDIT : Or maybe it's because the provinces that border the muslims have the 'recently conquered' modifier ?

 

[EmperorTojo]

hey Gaga, could you please explain the requirements for a Holy War. When I was a count, I could declare war on my neighbours if they were of a different religion, now in the same game as a King, I cannot. I border muslims on both sides of my Kingdom, yet I have no Holy War CB.

Do I have to be a crusader maybe, or I need a prestige/piety requirement ?

EDIT : Or maybe it's because the provinces that border the muslims have the 'recently conquered' modifier ?

I think, that you need 200 piety + 200 prestige before Holy War is available. But.. Holy War seems a bit buggy though so I don't know. 3:

 

[postm00v]

I think the 'recently conquered' modifier is the reason I couldn't declare war on neighbours. I hold the some counties in Galilee which I conquered some 50 years ago, and I can declare war against the bordering independant muslim count just fine.

 

[GAGA Extrem]

I will check the CB once I have some free time.

 

[Jordal]

I like this mod. That is all.

 

[Solo?]

I will check the CB once I have some free time.

I think the problem is that the current requirements are that any vassal province is adjacent to an infidel province whilst your own personal demense is not coded i.e. you can only declare a holy war if you have a vassal that has at least 1 province with a land connection to an infidel province. Hope you're still going to update this. I'm looking forward to the new battle scripts.

Here's a little fix i made:

			OR = {
				AND = {
					OR = {
						primary_title = { tier = EMPEROR }
						primary_title = { tier = KING }
					}
					crownlaw_title = {
						not = { has_law = centralization_0 }
					}
					OR = {
						any_vassal = {
							any_demesne_province = {
								any_neighbor_province = {
									owner = {
										top_liege = { 
											character = FROM
										}
									}
								}
							}
						}
						any_demesne_province = {
							any_neighbor_province = {
								owner = {
									top_liege = { 
										character = FROM
									}
								}
							}
						}	
					}
					}
					
				AND = {
					primary_title = { tier = DUKE }
					NOT = { religion_group = pagan_group }
					OR = {
						any_vassal = {
							any_demesne_province = {
								any_neighbor_province = {
									owner = {
										top_liege = { 
											character = FROM
										}
									}
								}
							}
						}
						any_demesne_province = {
							any_neighbor_province = {
								owner = {
									top_liege = { 
										character = FROM
									}
								}
							}
						}	
					}
				}
			}
		}
	}

 

[GAGA Extrem]

Thanks, will add that.

 

[Deserteur]

I think the problem is that the current requirements are that any vassal province is adjacent to an infidel province whilst your own personal demense is not coded i.e. you can only declare a holy war if you have a vassal that has at least 1 province with a land connection to an infidel province. Hope you're still going to update this. I'm looking forward to the new battle scripts.

Here's a little fix i made:

			OR = {
				AND = {
					OR = {
						primary_title = { tier = EMPEROR }
						primary_title = { tier = KING }
					}
					crownlaw_title = {
						not = { has_law = centralization_0 }
					}
					OR = {
						any_vassal = {
							any_demesne_province = {
								any_neighbor_province = {
									owner = {
										top_liege = { 
											character = FROM
										}
									}
								}
							}
						}
						any_demesne_province = {
							any_neighbor_province = {
								owner = {
									top_liege = { 
										character = FROM
									}
								}
							}
						}	
					}
					}
					
				AND = {
					primary_title = { tier = DUKE }
					NOT = { religion_group = pagan_group }
					OR = {
						any_vassal = {
							any_demesne_province = {
								any_neighbor_province = {
									owner = {
										top_liege = { 
											character = FROM
										}
									}
								}
							}
						}
						any_demesne_province = {
							any_neighbor_province = {
								owner = {
									top_liege = { 
										character = FROM
									}
								}
							}
						}	
					}
				}
			}
		}
	}

Where do I need to put that?

 

[Vanchelon]

Any chance of an update now that they fixed 1.05? Oh great and powerful one?

 

[Jak9090]

haven't seen much of this mod lately , I hope you patch to 1.5c Gaga, this is hands down my favourite mod, it makes all the tweaks i'm looking for, please keep it up

 

[GAGA Extrem]

Sorry lads, certainly not until the end of april, and probably not till the end of may.
Currently working on my Bachelor Thesis, so that has higher priority.

 

[JakobGood]

Sorry lads, certainly not until the end of april, and probably not till the end of may.
Currently working on my Bachelor Thesis, so that has higher priority.

Good luck mate! Real life is fun huh?

 

[GAGA Extrem]

Good luck mate! Real life is fun huh?

Well, at least the graphics are shiny and physics engine is decent...
>_>*

 

[Hardeknut]

Yeah but the lack of reloading old saves is really annoying

 

[unmerged(477530)]

What does the de jure kingdom/empire setup look like? Plain vanilla now that the Rise of Empires MOD has been implemented?

 

[aybarsalp]

Sorry lads, certainly not until the end of april, and probably not till the end of may.
Currently working on my Bachelor Thesis, so that has higher priority.

have a good one mate. sad that this was my favorite mod but real life is of course more important.

 

[GAGA Extrem]

I am back, but I fear there is a lot *cough* dust to be removed from this one...
...let's get started.

How about some input from your side what needs to be added or addressed?

 

[Arthasus]

I guess when you were absent everyone went to CK2Plus mod :unsure:

 

[GAGA Extrem]

So, I guess no point trying to fix this, huh? :>

 

[TimeDiver0]

Personally speaking, I'd suggest updating this mod with all of the patch-based alterations up to this point, and get some feedback on Bella Gerant Alii as it stands in that case (without going through a 'balancing' and 'feature addition/removal' hoopla).

As it is, my own personal-use-only mod includes a number of features from this, notably the trait(s) alterations and event modifier(s), but had to be added on top of Meneth's Balansegang as a base, as this one won't even load properly (last I checked), without updating the files with the ~1.05 changes.