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Which cultures are considered "Latin"?

The Italian ones, Lombard/Sicilian/Umbrian.

I am not sure if I like loosing the stab bonuses of holding the cardinals, the WE diminishing of being the papal retainer. And the other Christian options.

Well you have to choose between that bonuses from KoG, I also got cores on all of Italy. It's not so easy to hold onto the Papency now either.
 

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Does the name actually change or you just remain the Papal State ?
Since Paradox has generally shied away from governments in country names (e.g. Byzantine Empire), I guess the new country can just be called God.
 

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That's cool

Anyone figured how to create kingdom of jerusalem yet, or more like what the conditions are
 

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Not in this game :D
 

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Awesome decision, great for roleplaying!

Actually, does this mean they included the possibility of multiple tags being something like the union of a culture group, even with the ability to dynamically add a tag (like PAP here) ? If so, that's rather cool.
 

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That's cool

Anyone figured how to create kingdom of jerusalem yet, or more like what the conditions are

Well, it's in the decisions file. You need to be a catholic monarchy, protestant can't be enabled, you must own Judea(No, really?) and it must be catholic, Jerusalem must not exist yet, you have to be at peace and have a papal influence of 10%(0.1 in file).

Seriously, you really need to create Kingdom of Jerusalem, vassalise them and divide the world between you :D.

Btw, the KOJ code itself:
Code:
country_decisions = {


	kingdom_of_jerusalem = {
		potential = {
			NOT = { exists = KOJ }
			religion = catholic
			government = monarchy
			owns = 379
			NOT = { is_religion_enabled = protestant }
		}
		allow = {
			war = no
			papal_influence = 0.1
			379 = { religion = catholic }
		}
		effect = {
			prestige = 0.25
			KOJ = { add_core = 379 }
			release = KOJ

		}
		ai_will_do = {
			factor = 0
		}
	}
}
 

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Actually, does this mean they included the possibility of multiple tags being something like the union of a culture group, even with the ability to dynamically add a tag (like PAP here) ? If so, that's rather cool.

If not sure if multiple tags can be a union, part of the requirement for KoG is no ITA. But yes, the union effect can be added by event etc now.
 

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What a truly awesome event! :D
 

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Rather than disabling the papacy an anti-papal states sould be created or a modifier for second pope to be in the country of the papal controlled. If Rome turned its back on europe europe would turn its back on rome, a new pope and maybe a series of missions to remove the 'anti-pope' from rome and destroy the kingdom he proclaimed. The Papalcy transfered rather than abolished.
 

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Rather than disabling the papacy an anti-papal states sould be created or a modifier for second pope to be in the country of the papal controlled. If Rome turned its back on europe europe would turn its back on rome, a new pope and maybe a series of missions to remove the 'anti-pope' from rome and destroy the kingdom he proclaimed. The Papalcy transfered rather than abolished.

I agree - and on this note, I really wish that Avignon was treated as more than simply an "Archbishopric" between 1399 and 1417. Half of Christendom (notably France, Aragon and Castille) were briefly in the Avignonese obedience, and ecclesiastical taxation structures actually gave the Avignonese popes more revenue than the Roman ones. So Avignon should have its own college of cardinals, ability to excommunicate (but with no effect on those outside its obedience) and church revenues (this latter is needed for Rome as well).
 

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Awesome event. The only disappointing thing IMO is that uniting Italy or Germany should take more like 2-300 years of plotting rather than less than 100...
 

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WTF? That´s it? No special units? You can´t summon earthquakes or locust swarms? Lame. On the other hand, you population growth should be awesome. After all, like Monty Python said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk

On a more serious note, even Civilization didn´t have such a silly decision lol. So much for the "historical" game part...
 

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Civ has Aztec tanks being beaten up by German spearmen, so I dunno if I'd go that far. What's so silly about it anyway? The PS did act as a temperal power in many ways, and here they have gotten powerful enough to declare themselves a kingdom and no longer submit to external powers meddling with their cardinals.

Anyway, France attacked me to get Savoi and while I was fending them off Austria attacked me to get their lands back. France got sick of being killed in job lots and WPed out, and now Austria is a lot smaller:
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Next I'll go reclaim the holy land, not had much time to play so far today.

Edit: Religion shot added for later post.
 
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