Beginning Strategy for Castile World Conquest + True Faith

[TheMeInTeam]

Culture wise, yes. But consider most of the chinese minor pick humanist. it's better to have one close with better conversion power.

Isn't Miao Chinese culture though? They take religious (I was surprised to learn this as Ottomans during Sunni one-faith). Given the prevalence of religious-taking hordes and Tibet I'd be more inclined to use Dali for Burma and use one or two of Tibet/Sarig Yogir/Jurchens/Miao for China. Wu and Yan took humanism, Shun did not. Best to check these in advance of course.

Given how laughably terrible subjects can be with coring there's a real possibility no-religious Shun would outperform an arbitrary non-Chinese nation with religious when it comes to converting Chinese land, assuming you can afford tons of cathedrals (probably if you're doing this late).

 

[PhoenixG]

He, you're right. Never knew that.

 

[Lordkaiser]

I got a Habsburg relative on my throne.
How can it occur now, that Austria gets a Heir with weak claim, so that I could claim throne?

 

[Big Bad France]

I got a Habsburg relative on my throne.
How can it occur now, that Austria gets a Heir with weak claim, so that I could claim throne?

You can claim against either a low legitimacy heir or no heir. If you claim against no heir, you need to quickly declare war because you lose your claim as soon as they find an heir.

 

[Lordkaiser]

You can claim against either a low legitimacy heir or no heir. If you claim against no heir, you need to quickly declare war because you lose your claim as soon as they find an heir.

Yes, so
1. How can it occur that Austria gets a low claim heir?
2. Can it occur that they have no heir, I claim the throne, get a casus belli, I declare war on them and in that war their new heir gets born?
3. oh yeah, and will their allies aid them in such a war?

 

[Big Bad France]

Yes, so
1. How can it occur that Austria gets a low claim heir?
2. Can it occur that they have no heir, I claim the throne, get a casus belli, I declare war on them and in that war their new heir gets born?
3. oh yeah, and will their allies aid them in such a war?

1. It happens to them the same way it happens to you. Just pure random chance.
2. As long as you declare war before the heir is born, you can still win the war and get the PU.
3. Yes, their allies will aid them.

Another thing to keep in mind is that when you force a PU, the junior partner goes through a period where they don't like you very much. If they have negative relations and your ruler dies, you lose the PU. So if your ruler is old, improve relations, send gold, do whatever it takes to get their relations positive ASAP after you win the war.

 

[ElGranCapitan]

To be honest, the easiest is if they are in a regency, break the alliance (with 80+trust) when their heir is 10

When he reaches fifteen your truce ends, and if he immediatly has an heir, your game suffers a mysterious crash

 

[Lordkaiser]

I saw that if you have the PU over Aragon and reach Admin 10, you can make the decision "form spanish nation diplomatically":

"All of the following is true:

• Is Castile.
• Aragon is a vassal of Castile or the junior partner of a personal union with Castile.
• Aragon has less than 32 cities."

Questions:
1. If Castile inherits Aragon this way, will the provinces of Aragon be territory or states? (what if Castille would get too many states then?)
2. Do you get the cores immediately without time and diplopoints being used?
3. If so, it would be the wisest choice to expand Aragon into 31 cities first and then get all of those immediately instead of just 26 or so, right?
4. Does it make any considerable difference if you are Castile or Spain after that?
5. Will you get a DipRep-Malus for this Inheritance?

 

[PhoenixG]

I saw that if you have the PU over Aragon and reach Admin 10, you can make the decision "form spanish nation diplomatically":

"All of the following is true:

• Is Castile.
• Aragon is a vassal of Castile or the junior partner of a personal union with Castile.
• Aragon has less than 32 cities."

Questions:
1. If Castile inherits Aragon this way, will the provinces of Aragon be territory or states? (what if Castille would get too many states then?)
2. Do you get the cores immediately without time and diplopoints being used?
3. If so, it would be the wisest choice to expand Aragon into 31 cities first and then get all of those immediately instead of just 26 or so, right?
4. Does it make any considerable difference if you are Castile or Spain after that?
5. Will you get a DipRep-Malus for this Inheritance?

1. You get the stuff as territories, but no cost in stating them. Since all of them are full cores. It's the same as you integrate a vassal/PU.
2. See 1.
3. Yes.
4. Nope. Only the flag is different.
5. I think all instant PU inheritance doesn't get a the -3 diprep malus.

 

[Dominion]

5. I think all instant PU inheritance doesn't get a the -3 diprep malus.

Correct. Since it's not a diplomatic annexation.

 

[ElGranCapitan]

3. Yes, since Aragon picks religious really often as well you could feed them North africa. I'd say give them the easternmost province of Tunis and from there Mamluk land until they reach max provinces allowed
But if you feed them Berber land make sure to keep one of Tangiers, Melilla, Oran and Ceuta in Muslim hands as that triggers a second Reconquista mission, which you should use prior to fighting the Ottomans for the first time as it rewards 15% morale for 10 years (in total you can get +30% morale, +10% disc and -20% shock damage received which allows you to figh the Ottomans head on). Try to beat them to Egypt and fight them there, your navy should secure Naples from invasion from the balkans.
4. Yes, it does. Only Spain gets the -20% shock damage received splendor bonus

 

[Viperswhip]

I tend to feed them France because you should be moving your capital to Holland to avoid the Dutch Rebellions and also you make way more money in the English Channel. You can't count on the AI to really do all this properly. So, I feed them parts of Southern France and Savoy once the Shadow Kingdom fires. Also, they suck at getting troops home if they spend much time in Africa.

So, restart if you don't get the Inheritance, it boosts you up to huge income potential, and allows you to even more easily become Emperor and also gives you access to London and England with claims and such. You can also seize Paris super quickly.

 

[Dominion]

I still don't understand why people move their capital.

Fully annex them. No more rebels, no more events. They're gone.

They pop out once and afterwards they're gone forever.

 

[Viperswhip]

Because that's a great place for your capital anyway? Supergreat land, super great spot, and it gets moved back down after you form Spain anyway, which I often don't do until later.

It's also a terrific area for institution spreading and you make a lot of money up there and wipe out the autonomy on a nice capital. And I would prefer to have no rebels there as most often I am in Russia or Asia by the time they do tend to spawn.

 

[ElGranCapitan]

When moving your Capital to Holland don't forget to conquer Calais and East frisia and warn everybody who could attack Gelre/Friesland/Utrecht/Liege

If a non dutch nation conquers a lowlands province they could start the revolt and then you get rebels whether your capital is there or not

 

[Dominion]

Because that's a great place for your capital anyway? Supergreat land, super great spot, and it gets moved back down after you form Spain anyway, which I often don't do until later.

It's also a terrific area for institution spreading and you make a lot of money up there and wipe out the autonomy on a nice capital. And I would prefer to have no rebels there as most often I am in Russia or Asia by the time they do tend to spawn.

If that would suffice as a motivation you'd have your capital jump around like a teleporter with Parkinson's.

As you said, your capital gets thrown back anyways and you aren't preventing any rebels from the Netherlands since there aren't any to prevent.
These lands are nice so you move your capital, then hand over all these provinces to the Netherlands without taking them back?

I can't wrap my head around it.

When moving your Capital to Holland don't forget to conquer Calais and East frisia and warn everybody who could attack Gelre/Friesland/Utrecht/Liege

If a non dutch nation conquers a lowlands province they could start the revolt and then you get rebels whether your capital is there or not

That's just complicating it even further.

Just... annex them

 

[Lordkaiser]

Could somebody explain to me what you are talking about? Never thought about Netherlands till now.

You have to move your capital there?
What time period are we talking about?
Can't I just conquer the netherlands after they formed later?

 

[Dominion]

Could somebody explain to me what you are talking about? Never thought about Netherlands till now.

You have to move your capital there?
What time period are we talking about?
Can't I just conquer the netherlands after they formed later?

If the Netherlands exist and you have some of 'their' provinces you get extremely nasty rebel events for a century or sth.
We're talking 50-60k stacks here.
Moving your capital to the low counties prevents these events from happening.

I'm saying that, no matter which nation you play, moving your capital is a mistake because, as you said, simply conquering them prevents these events as well.
If they don't exist you don't get rebels.

Heck, they even spawn with a war where they're the aggressor against you. Your allies will do all the work for you anyways. Don't even need to have troops anywhere close. It's usually 20k vs 500k.

And doing it as Castille is especially... interesting because forming Spain moves your capital back to Iberia again. I don't even know who came up with the idea that moving your capital would make sense in any way, but people have been doing it for years.

Just annex them and be done with it.

 

[Lordkaiser]

Just annex them and be done with it.

When? Do you mean before they form the Netherlands or anytime afterwards (but then in 1 go?) ?

 

[Dominion]

You can't annex them if they don't exist.

Yes, after the event kicks where they pop up.