since D~H type of Bef P3 command tanks have no main gun. their main gun armed after j type
Bef Pz 3 H command tank have dummy gun. it`s not real.
- Thread starter Urad
- Start date
-
We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.
would the model work for pz3 K? Those command tank still retain their gun.
although wouldn't the pz3 N with the short 75mm be more appropriate for Normandy?
although wouldn't the pz3 N with the short 75mm be more appropriate for Normandy?
Pz 3 K type command tank have kwk 39. Dummy gun model of Pz 3 h type is kwk 38 so it can`t
um, i can`t sure pz3 n type in normandy. but surely it`s not 91st equipment
um, i can`t sure pz3 n type in normandy. but surely it`s not 91st equipment
Convenient. 91. LL still needs a Command-unit in the support tab and looks like this is it. Canonless Panzer 3. Can maybe even give it two stars to make it worth it.
did the 91LL have pz3 K in normandy?
worst case the pz3 H command is moved to the support slot with a different unit replacing its function.
can you state some sources for this because from what i found there where no dummy guns on commanders tanks german side?
BefPzKpfw III K would be quite stronger. It was armed with 50mm KWK39 L/60 - a long 50, performing similar to PAK one we already have.
91st LL have no pz3 k.
honestly they don`t have any tanks.
i found some source about 91st`s order of battle and no tank units in there.
in game tanks perhaps attached units.
just unknown unit. only eugen know where they come from.
so, let`s think about that unkown unit.
pz 3 was discontinued from 1943 fall and most of left pz3 consumed in eastern front.
in normandy, only few divison have pz3, like 116th Panzer Division. their pz3 armed with kwk 39 but it`s not command tank.
so, i think that unkown unit have no armed pz3
honestly they don`t have any tanks.
i found some source about 91st`s order of battle and no tank units in there.
in game tanks perhaps attached units.
just unknown unit. only eugen know where they come from.
so, let`s think about that unkown unit.
pz 3 was discontinued from 1943 fall and most of left pz3 consumed in eastern front.
in normandy, only few divison have pz3, like 116th Panzer Division. their pz3 armed with kwk 39 but it`s not command tank.
so, i think that unkown unit have no armed pz3
This is not entirely accurate. From the first hours of D-Day it had Panzer-Ausbildungs und Ersatz-Abteilung 100 attached, which fought with it through entire campaign as an organic unit.
Gliederung:
There were still plenty PzIIIs in use here and there. Mostly relegated to secondary/stab duties and this is indicated ingame as them being "befpanzers", that is they are not BefPzkpfws per se, but regular, old PzIIIs used by command units as their rides. Out of the "line" PzIIIs, 116 Panzer-Division had about 20 of them, (various types - L,M,N) and used them in line operations.
Last edited:
Going by this:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/47207/thread/1174669606
The Zustandsbericht for the Panzer-Ausbildungs und Ersatz-Abteilung 100 dated 20.05.1944 lists 3x50mm canons on Panzer III.
Still no idea if those were command Panzer III (no hull-MG then) or "normal" Panzer III. And no idea which variant (anything between F and M is possible I guess)
http://www.network54.com/Forum/47207/thread/1174669606
The Zustandsbericht for the Panzer-Ausbildungs und Ersatz-Abteilung 100 dated 20.05.1944 lists 3x50mm canons on Panzer III.
Still no idea if those were command Panzer III (no hull-MG then) or "normal" Panzer III. And no idea which variant (anything between F and M is possible I guess)
10 AP is nothing special. it's just +2 ap compared to the current one.