Becoming The Netherlands

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I want to play a game as the netherlands, so I checked the event-files for Friesland, Brabant and Geldre, assuming they are the only ones who can become the netherlands. Now, i noticed that Brabant have French and Dutch culture from the start, and that Friesland and Geldre doesn't have dutch culture at all.

Now, i want to play a game where i ONLY have dutch culture(except.. i could survive with frisian, seeing as it's only one province. But i DONT want french or german).

First question is: Do the countries change cultures when they become the netherlands automatically?

If not, i'm wondering what to do. What do i need to add in the eventfiles if i want Brabant or Geldre to lose their other culture, or Friesland to gain dutch?

 

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If Friesland can become the Netherlands they should of course be able to get Dutch culture too, anything else would be plain silly...

 

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Well yeah, they should, but do they?

Can i just add a line with addculture = dutch or something?

And is there a removeculture command? So that i can remove brabants and geldres french and german cultures?

 

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Unless something has gone wrong with events that are supposed to be in Freisland will get Dutch culture when it becomes the Netherlands. Gelre gets it much earlier than that.

 

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Ah.. i checked the dutch event file now. If i understand it right, after Friesland has become the netherlands, they will get dutch culture through the "creation of the dutch republic" event in the dutch eventfile.

I'm not sure i want to play as Friesland though, so am i right in assuming i can add "command = { type = remove_countryculture which = French }" in some event to remove french culture from brabant?

 

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Yes.

 

[yuje]

Ah.. i checked the dutch event file now. If i understand it right, after Friesland has become the netherlands, they will get dutch culture through the "creation of the dutch republic" event in the dutch eventfile.

No. Choosing to form Netherlands from Friesland (or any other Dutch minor) sleeps the event "Creation of the Dutch Republic". As it is, Friesland won't get Dutch culture.

 

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Ah... well, i figured another thing out.. i didn't check the event files of the minors well enough. Somehow i missed that gelre looses german culture when it gets dutch culture. So, problem solved, i'm playing with Gelre. Thanks for taking the time to try and help though.

 

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No. Choosing to form Netherlands from Friesland (or any other Dutch minor) sleeps the event "Creation of the Dutch Republic". As it is, Friesland won't get Dutch culture.

Yeah that event needs to be changed so that Freisland gets the culture when the other event is slept. That's a bug isn't it?

Also, Gelre and Brabant need to get Frisian when they become the Dutch Republic. Or is that in there already?

 

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Can someone please give me a list of ALL the coutries that can become the Netherlands? Also, I'm curious as to why "Frisian" culture was put in the game... is the thread in which it was discussed still around?
Phil

 

[Cagliostro]

the startup countries that can become the Netherlands are:

Brabant, Gelderland, Friesland. Brabant will end up with Dutch and French culture if it becomes the Netherlands.

 

[yuje]

The becoming Netherlands events should either add Dutch and Frisian culture, or "The Creation of the Dutch Republic" events shouldn't be slept so that they get both Dutch and Frisian culture via that event.

 

[Registered]

the startup countries that can become the Netherlands are:

Brabant, Gelderland, Friesland. Brabant will end up with Dutch and French culture if it becomes the Netherlands.

Which is insane, there ois no way the Netherlands should have Frensh culture. If only because it makes the game far too easy.

 

[Sikker]

That 200 point reduction in victory points for becoming the Netherlands ... aren't they a bit too harsh? I know that becoming the Netherlands mean that you actually give up your own reign ... but 200 points is a lot - and if you DON'T become the Netherlands you're screwed ... so ...

 

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Which is insane, there ois no way the Netherlands should have Frensh culture. If only because it makes the game far too easy.

Agreed, which is why I plan to add a remove-french-culture line to Brabant's creation of the Dutch Republic event for my game... but really this should be made official IMO. If Gelderland loses german, Brabant ought to lose french, no?
Phil
PS- Can someone please point me to the thread that explains why frisian culture exists in the game? I'm curious.

 

[Jester]

Agreed, which is why I plan to add a remove-french-culture line to Brabant's creation of the Dutch Republic event for my game... but really this should be made official IMO. If Gelderland loses german, Brabant ought to lose french, no?
Phil
PS- Can someone please point me to the thread that explains why frisian culture exists in the game? I'm curious.

Frisian culture is left over from either the AGC or the EEP, and ws originally decided there.

Late,
Jester

 

[Sikker]

Agreed, which is why I plan to add a remove-french-culture line to Brabant's creation of the Dutch Republic event for my game... but really this should be made official IMO. If Gelderland loses german, Brabant ought to lose french, no?
Phil
PS- Can someone please point me to the thread that explains why frisian culture exists in the game? I'm curious.

Perhaps if French is lost then the loss of 200VP could go as well?