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There's one thing the Nerevarine could never be, and that's craven.
 

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but i always rp as craven Nerevarine in morrowind... i don't know anything in lore that tells me i cant either.

A craven wouldn't face Dagoth Ur or Almalexia. Nerevar was no craven and there's no way that anyone would accept the PC as the Nerevarine if s/he was.
 

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well this Mer in Ascadia wasn't so craven when he lead his great revolt against the stronger powers of the tribunal. So i refute your claim and say he must have overcame his debilitating fear for the greater good of the ashlanders! however this conversation does give me the idea that the craven trait should be split into a couple different "phobias". I've never liked craven to begin with because it doesn't define fear properly.. it's such a complex emotion.
 

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well this Mer in Ascadia wasn't so craven when he lead his great revolt against the stronger powers of the tribunal. So i refute your claim and say he must have overcame his debilitating fear for the greater good of the ashlanders! however this conversation does give me the idea that the craven trait should be split into a couple different "phobias". I've never liked craven to begin with because it doesn't define fear properly.. it's such a complex emotion.

well, craven is like the inbred trait, it's a generalization.
basicly it means you are a coward, but not what kind of coward...

About craven facing dagoth... when i played morrowind i was pritty much a craven oppertunist, if i noticed i can deal with it and there is nothing to be afraid of i'd go in like a madman, but if i noticed they are pritty tough i'd avoid them if possible, if not possible then i'd buff myself and make sure i'm at full health/stamina before even attempting.

I faced dagoth ur, not once, not twice, but three times with the same char!
how? the first two times i ran...
So here is a craven who runs from battle, yet he did eventually destroy the hart and forfilled the prophesy....
 

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The Gods in Elder Scrolls are not as active as people seem to assume. Especially daedric gods, who are actively barred from over interference with nirn as long as the towers stand (The oblivion crisis precipitated by the fall of several towers)

If they would simulate an oblivion crisis in game would daedric cults have to control the towers in order to active the event?
 

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Well, he also got imprisoned by his own Battlemage. Not to say that he initiated the downfall of Morrowind, one of the provinces he should protect. He also seemed unable to maintain a sufficient garrison at the Imperial Province itself, with all Forts abandoned and no Legion to close Oblivion Gates as they were mostly in the other provinces.
Apart from getting imprisoned by his battlemage, he was arguably one of the most successful Septim rulers. What happened in Morrowind all worked well in favor of the empire. Imperial influence was strengthened in Morrowind.There's also the fact that there isn't any need to maintain large armies in Cyrodiil itself. Only a stupid ruler would do so. Have you never heard of the Praetorian Guard?As the center most location of the empire, there normally wouldn't have been any threats there. The Oblivion crisis wasn't the result of his failure, but that of the blades(well done blades).Honestly, as an organzation, the blades are glossly overrated. Just look at how many emperors and empresses died under their watch.They even fu@ked up during the Great War, got all their operatives in Elsweyr and Valenwood killed.They even tried to force you into killing Paarthurnax. Just WTF?!
 

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The Mythic Dawn did however deactivate the tower (By killing Uriel and shutting down the dragonfires), and this allowed Mehrunes Dagon to start interfering.
I really don't understand how Mehrunes Dagon can invade Tamriel less than a year after the dragonfires got shut down while Molag Bal had to wait over a hundred years after the last Reman emperor got assassinated to invade. There's also the fact that even after he's defeated, there were no attempts by other Daedric princes like Mehrunes Dagon to also invade even though there's quite an amount of time before the rise of Tiber Septim.
 

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I really don't understand how Mehrunes Dagon can invade Tamriel less than a year after the dragonfires got shut down while Molag Bal had to wait over a hundred years after the last Reman emperor got assassinated to invade. There's also the fact that even after he's defeated, there were no attempts by other Daedric princes like Mehrunes Dagon to also invade even though there's quite an amount of time before the rise of Tiber Septim.

Shh!!! You're putting too much thought into it, you keep doing that and the whole thing comes crashing down.
 

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It's like the Elder Scrolls themselves, or the climate of Cyrodil. Any time you think too hard on it, or looks to closely, reality moves the X so you can't find it.