Become King of Pommerania

[Sisko1980]

Hi,

I'm knew to this game and to all Paradox games. I startet playing as the Duke of Brandenburg (since I'm from there) and over time gained some more counties and titles around me. Then I saw, that there exists a kingdom of Pommerania, where at this time I hold more than 50% of. So the question is, can I become the King of Pommerania. If not, is there any possibility for me to get above Duke Level in the HRE or can I just try to get more duchies and so become more powerful?

Thanks for the help.

 

[Ahaz Flagg]

You can but you need to be pagan, so you will need to educate an heir to be pagan, and hope the hre and pope does not eat your lunch. Good luck on that!! You might have to be the pagan at pommeraania, not real sure, still fairly new here, but this gets asked quite often.

 

[Me_]

Only Pagans can form the Kingdom of Pomerania. You'd need to make your heir Pagan by giving him a Pagan tutor. Then the HRE would happily remove all your titles once your Pagan heir inherits. You can try forming other Kingdoms, though. Denmark's a good choice - you need to defeat the current king (to get 50% of Denmark and usurp the title), but with HRE protection there is approximately 0 chance that the King of Denmark would try to take back any land you take from him.
You may also try to marry yourself into a position where you can take over Bohemia or form Germany, Lotharingia, Italy, Bavaria, Frisia (culture change would be necessary) or Burgundy.

 

[Ols]

As said before, there's a significant penalty to being pagan in order to form it. If you want to do it, crippling the HRE before you get out as in independent realm would be a good idea. You may also want to switch to being Prussian or Pomeranian at the same time instead of being culturally German so you completely cut yourself off from those pesky Germans and their Empire.

 

[StLeibowitz]

You could also just edit the file to make Pomerania formable as anyone. It's just a quick removal of a few lines of code in the landed titles file, I believe.

 

[caquinoh]

Does the game really allow you to educate your child as pagan and switch your religion so you play as a pagan character?

 

[unmerged(47028)]

In CK1 you could do that easily but if you save it and reload it you are screwed because you will not be able to choose your Pagan character any more. So my trick was: become pagan, do whatever I want to do an then make sure that another heir is Christian again so I could save the game and then be able to load again.

 

[Ols]

You can load as a Pagan in a saved game if they have Christian/Muslim/Zoroastrian ancestors who lived within the timescale of your game. To be honest however, as Pommerania it may be more wise to become Christian if you constantly get holy warred.

 

[Kalderus]

You know, after your pagan heir takes over, if you saved enough gold before and quickly get enough piety from, well whatever pagans do to get piety (conquest Poland?), then you can form Pommerania quickly and then just convert back to liege's religion and get to keep Pommerania (just don't rebel from the HRE, or else it might get revoked and you'd have to become Pagan all over again).

 

[Comradebot]

Yup, its doable in vanilla. Heck, I've done it.

Just as simple as educating your heir to be a pagan. I got a bit lucky, and my pagan heir become king while he was still a child. I formed the kingdom, then quickly swore fealty to the HRE (there's no holy wars between vassals in the same realm). Once I was there, I switched my child king's educator to a Catholic... and he managed to re-convert me less than a year before the HRE reached Medium Crown Authority (which, if I were still a pagan, would've let him revoke everything for free).

Staying as a Pagan in that region, though, is really asking for trouble. I'm sure its doable, but switching back to Catholic (or to Orthodox) will guarantee you don't have to worry about the HRE holy warring you into oblivion.

 

[Comradebot]

Does the game really allow you to educate your child as pagan and switch your religion so you play as a pagan character?

Yep.

The only one that it doesn't allow is Muslim, should you not own SoI. Otherwise, you're free to have heirs of Romuva, Tengri, Norse, Zoroastrian, or generic Pagan beliefs.

 

[Slym]

Here's what you have to do:

Tutor up a pagan, zealous, content, depressed heir. As soon as they inherit, they should have enough piety to form the Kingdom, then immediately commit suicide and let your Christian brother take over for you.

 

[Martinus]

Here's what you have to do:

Tutor up a pagan, zealous, content, depressed heir. As soon as they inherit, they should have enough piety to form the Kingdom, then immediately commit suicide and let your Christian brother take over for you.

A sacrificial god-king.