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I started a game a Russia today and used the crimean war to trigger the Tsar os all slavs event. I was prepared to take a heavy BB hit and had build my military up to deterr BB DoWs. As the event trigger I braced myself, was I strong enough to deterr the UK (I made peace with the other player in the crimean war early so the peace treay was about out)? The event fires and...nothing! "Great" I think "Hmm, I wonder what my BB is?". I take a look and my BB is....0. That's right zero BB from getting a huge chunk of the balkans!

Looking in the event file I see this event used the secedeprovince command, so I wonder if a modder could change the unification events and the ACW event to use this command and avoid the BB. Although I think unification should still give some BB I won't get into that untill we know if this will work.
 

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Yeah, this happened to me the other day, except I didn't know about the event before it fired. My first act upon seeing it was to scream with joy. Then I soiled myself at the thought of the badboy I was about to inherit. But, as you mentioned, there is no badboy involved.

I think your idea is pretty good--forcing the minor German states to cede themselves to Prussia--but we can also take a lesson from another aspect of the "Tsar of all the Slavs" event. The "Declaring the Second Rome" event which preceedes it reduces your relations with the other major powers by 400(!), thus reproducing the negative sentiment they would have at such a declaration. Something like that could be put into the unification event, thus showing that the other powers didn't like it, but that--other than France, maybe--they didn't actually see it as a reason to go to war.
 

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Still, they might go to war with you, when you are at -200 relations it doesn't take much to start a war. Nice element of uncertinty there :) I think at least the german event should have some BB added. Either with a simple add BB command or a secede all provinces except the capital and then the capital is annexed. That would also sidestep any problems is it turns out "secede" cannot give away the entire country.
 

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No other replies? I was expecting to come back today and read though about a million replies. Has this already been tried and found not to work? Given the amount of complaints about BB from events I'd have thought this would casue some excitement.
 
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No other replies? I was expecting to come back today and read though about a million replies. Has this already been tried and found not to work? Given the amount of complaints about BB from events I'd have thought this would casue some excitement.
Nah, we have just talked this issue to death and are now waiting for Johan to make some corrections, then we will go on a "bitch at Johan spree," again, if it is not properly resolved.
 

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I'm sure a lot of people would rather get a mod-fix now than wait for the next patch. The only reason other discussions ended with "Ask Johan" is because it seem the engine gave BB from ANY territory change. I've never seen the secede command mentioned before.