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We can't as a species agree if bacon should be crispy or chewy, what makes you think we'd ever all go to one unit of measurement like that? Plus you'd have a lot of confusion everywhere 12 noon would be bright daylight here, and pitch black night elsewhere.
 

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So you say giving early access for the early supporters (Kickstart, Backerit) is a suboptimal choice? o_O
Yes. Because they're advertising, on a suboptimal not final build.

A few streamers with solid NDAs and reputations are controllable, and willing to forgive things, and even talk about how something is a bug and likely fixed before the real release. Or how matches are easier than they likely will be.

A few thousand backers? All it takes is one or two bad bugs and BOOM, word of mouth destroys the game. People stop pre-ordering, don't buy, etc. Never mind it's not final. Gamers are RUTHLESS in the modern world. The face bug alone pretty much killed Mass Effect Andromeda to the point thousands of people weren't even willing to give it a shot because of that one bug that was fixed rather quickly.

Further, Backer Copies in the wild mean pirated copies will be available before the actual release, probably meaning impatient non-backers will just download that instead of buying it like they otherwise may have. With streamers, they can catch who did that. With backers? No way.

Like it or not, these streamers are building hype. A lot of it. I presume we all want to see "In Success" and streamers are how we get that in the modern world. The cheapest way to reach thousands, or even hundreds of thousands of gamers who otherwise may not ever have heard of the game.
 

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We can't as a species agree if bacon should be crispy or chewy, what makes you think we'd ever all go to one unit of measurement like that? Plus you'd have a lot of confusion everywhere 12 noon would be bright daylight here, and pitch black night elsewhere.
We already have agreed to all use it. It is used in aerospace, maritime, military, and scientific communities around the world. It is also used in navigation such as GPS. It is an international standard.

Day/night cycles vary each day of the year which is why DST was used as an imperfect way to address that and has had a measurably negative effect on productivity and coordination of activities. Better to just accept the changing day cycle throughout the year along with different daylight times by location. For local areas people will already know when it will be light out. For coordination by daylight between distant areas (which rarely happens), it takes only a few seconds to look it up.
 

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We can't as a species agree if bacon should be crispy or chewy...

We already have agreed to all use it. It is used in aerospace, maritime, military, and scientific communities around the world. It is also used in navigation such as GPS. It is an international standard.

For a second there I was like, "wait, we use bacon for what?" :D
 

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That sounds good on paper, and for international standards of things like GPS, sure. But getting people to agree on one standard? Never going to happen, unless you become a one-world leader and stomp out the opposition who thinks they know how to do it better than you.
Look at controversial topics on here? It's a split community on some things. It'll never change because some people grew up using *this* version of a mechanic, and some people only grew up knowing *that* version of a mechanic.
Lord, we still have people thinking that MWO is the origin of Battletech, and that Clans should be in this game because they were in previous games. They can't be bothered to look at the actual history of the BT IP.
We've become a society (or societies if you will) of instant gratification, and can't be bothered with learning a little proper history.
 

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Well there may be a few hold outs just as with other measurement standards but getting over 90% adoption should be feasible based on the adoption of other standards. The current hodge podge of time zone and DST systems is really a complicated mess. If we can improve on that situation for the majority of the world, then we should try to do so.
 

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Just a thought. When it is 6 PM in Germany, it is 2 AM the next day in Sydney. But, nevertheless, we download at the same time.
 

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Well there may be a few hold outs just as with other measurement standards but getting over 90% adoption should be feasible based on the adoption of other standards. The current hodge podge of time zone and DST systems is really a complicated mess. If we can improve on that situation for the majority of the world, then we should try to do so.
Therein lies the rub. Who exactly is the "we" you speak of?
"We" already have many differing opinions on how time should be measured with all the different time zones and DST. So whos "standard" do you go by? Then it would feel like "we" are being forced into "your" opinion of the optimal solution. That is not how things work.
That is the reality of the situation.
Yes it would be nice if the U.S. adopted the metric system for it's simplicity, but it's become too ingrained here to switch over to anything else. The only way that would work is if someone managed to invade the U.S. and forced us to follow a different standard, and that's NOT going to happen.
I could see it now, the Great Measurement War.
I am of course being facetious but you get my point I hope.
 

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The USA already officially committed to adopting SI (metric system) decades ago. The transition never was never fully completed but there is no policy preventing it either. It is a hold out but over 95% of the world completed the transition. No one is forcing people in the USA to switch, there is no measurements war. However it does have a measurable negative impact on export of products and services from the USA and increases costs for multinational businesses based in the USA.

Until political leadership within the USA decides to create incentives to accelerate adoption of a new system the old system will continue to be common. But as people on their own choose to use such systems more often it makes it an easier political decision to make such incentives at some point.

In Canada they use a mix of imperial and metric measurements out of convenience and that is fine. The transition does not have to be dictated or painful. Just encourage people to use the new system where it is convenient to do so and the resistance will be relatively mild and tolerated.

Switching over the time system is potentially easier than switching the measurement system. Countries and local governments are already frequently switching their time systems around with little resistance.

I think that one easy area where such a transition could begin to happen is to start making global announcements for events such as video streams and game releases listing the time in terms of UTC rather than any local time zone. Eventually people may become more accustomed to it and feel less reliant on local time zones.