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New Caprica phase (7 distance)
• All humans start at Resistance HQ, all cylons start at Occupation Authority
• Switch to New Caprica crises
o New cylon ship activation: Occupation Forces
? Move each Occupation Force one step closer to the civilian ships
? If an Occupation Force reaches the civilian ships, remove it and destroy the top ship in the Locked stack (or Prepared if no ships are Locked)
? If no Occupation Forces are on the board, launch one at Occupation Authority
• New Human Action: Attack Occupation Force
o Must be done on the same space as the Occupation Force
• New Cylon Action: Detain Human
o Must be done on the same space as the human player and an Occupation Force
Part 1: Pre-Galactica
• Galactica, Pegasus, Colonial One, Cylon Locations are unavailable
• Jump track marker set to the start
• Each jump track icon advances the jump track
o At auto-jump, remove the jump track marker from the game and begin Part 2
Part 2: Post-Galactica
• Colonial One still unavailable
• Each jump track icon allows the player to evacuate one Prepared Civilian ship
o Evacuated ships are placed in either viper launch space sector
o This step is ignored if there are no Prepared Civilian ships
• Admiral may jump the fleet as an action at any time
o All civilian ships on New Caprica are destroyed, lose resources as indicated
o All humans remaining on New Caprica are executed, lose Morale as indicated
The civilian fleet is composed of 12 ships. The ships have the following resources:
1 Population (x6)
2 Population (x2)
1 Population + 1 Morale (x1)
1 Population + 1 Fuel (x1)
Nothing (x2)
Any player is allowed to look at the civilian ships that have already been destroyed.
Ships that have been destroyed:
1 pop + 1 fuel
1 pop
• All humans start at Resistance HQ, all cylons start at Occupation Authority
• Switch to New Caprica crises
o New cylon ship activation: Occupation Forces
? Move each Occupation Force one step closer to the civilian ships
? If an Occupation Force reaches the civilian ships, remove it and destroy the top ship in the Locked stack (or Prepared if no ships are Locked)
? If no Occupation Forces are on the board, launch one at Occupation Authority
• New Human Action: Attack Occupation Force
o Must be done on the same space as the Occupation Force
• New Cylon Action: Detain Human
o Must be done on the same space as the human player and an Occupation Force
Part 1: Pre-Galactica
• Galactica, Pegasus, Colonial One, Cylon Locations are unavailable
• Jump track marker set to the start
• Each jump track icon advances the jump track
o At auto-jump, remove the jump track marker from the game and begin Part 2
Part 2: Post-Galactica
• Colonial One still unavailable
• Each jump track icon allows the player to evacuate one Prepared Civilian ship
o Evacuated ships are placed in either viper launch space sector
o This step is ignored if there are no Prepared Civilian ships
• Admiral may jump the fleet as an action at any time
o All civilian ships on New Caprica are destroyed, lose resources as indicated
o All humans remaining on New Caprica are executed, lose Morale as indicated
The civilian fleet is composed of 12 ships. The ships have the following resources:
1 Population (x6)
2 Population (x2)
1 Population + 1 Morale (x1)
1 Population + 1 Fuel (x1)
Nothing (x2)
Any player is allowed to look at the civilian ships that have already been destroyed.
Ships that have been destroyed:
1 pop + 1 fuel
1 pop
The crisis card HAS been factored into this update.
The [ ]-> signfies an occupation forces space. The arrow indicates an OF will move from that space to the next in the list. When an OF moves to the Locked Ships Stack, the top ship of the stack is destroyed and the resources lost. OFs move if there is an Activate OFs symbol on the crisis card.
When the jump prep marker reaches the A (autojump) space, Galactica and Pegasus return and the game moves to Part 2. During Part 2 the Admiral can jump the fleet entirely at her or his discretion.
Turn 27
Player Status
Bolded player has the turn.
Adm. CAIN [2] - Resistance HQ
CAVIL [3] - Occupation Authority
TIGH [7] - Resistance HQ
Pres. ELLEN [6] - Resistance HQ
STARBUCK [6] - Resistance HQ
KAT [2] - Resistance HQ
TYROL [5] - Resistance HQ
Destiny Deck [4]
Location Status
Medical Center - You may only draw 1 card during the receive skills step.
Detention (Tactics/Politics 9) - You may not move or add more than 2 cards to skill checks. Action: Pass this skill check to move to any other location.
Resistance HQ (Tactics/Leadership/Treachery 7) - Human action: choose a character on NC (human or cylon), then pass this check to execute them.
Occupation Authority - President action: Draw 1 quorum card, then play 1 quorum card. Cylon action: Activate 1 occupation force, then place 1 OF on this position. [] ->
Breeder's Canyon - Human: reduce the highest resource by 1, advance the jump market by 1. Cylon: Draw and resolve the top card of the crisis deck. Skip prepare for jump step. [] ->
Shipyard - Human: Prepare OR evacuate 1 civilian ship to Echo or Foxtrot. If you evacuate a civilian ship, you may freely move to any Galactica location. Cylon: Look at the top ship of the Locked stack, place it on top or bottom [] ->
Locked Civilian Ships: 10/10
Prepared Civilian Ships: 0/10
Attack Table
Attack Occupation Forces: Human action in any location with an OF present. Roll a die, if 5 or higher, destroy the OF. You may discard a Maximum Firepower card to reroll this roll.
Detain a Human: Cylon action in any location with a human character and an OF present. Roll a die, if 1-3, move the human to Detention, if 4-7, move the human to the Medical Center.
Resource Status
Fuel: 4
Food: 5
Morale: 4
Population: 8
DRADIS
Not available.
Fleet Status
Damage Control
Galactica: Admiral's Quarters, -1 Fuel
Pegasus: Engine Room
Jump Preparation:
1 [ ]
2 [X]
3 [ ]
4 [ ]
5 [ ]
A [ ]
Intruder alert:
Not available.
Viper reserves: 0 destroyed, 3 damaged, 5 operational
Raptor reserves: 4 destroyed, 0 operational
Nuclear warheads: 2 remaining
Distance travelled: 7
The [ ]-> signfies an occupation forces space. The arrow indicates an OF will move from that space to the next in the list. When an OF moves to the Locked Ships Stack, the top ship of the stack is destroyed and the resources lost. OFs move if there is an Activate OFs symbol on the crisis card.
When the jump prep marker reaches the A (autojump) space, Galactica and Pegasus return and the game moves to Part 2. During Part 2 the Admiral can jump the fleet entirely at her or his discretion.
Turn 27
Player Status
Bolded player has the turn.
Adm. CAIN [2] - Resistance HQ
CAVIL [3] - Occupation Authority
TIGH [7] - Resistance HQ
Pres. ELLEN [6] - Resistance HQ
STARBUCK [6] - Resistance HQ
KAT [2] - Resistance HQ
TYROL [5] - Resistance HQ
Destiny Deck [4]
Location Status
Medical Center - You may only draw 1 card during the receive skills step.
Detention (Tactics/Politics 9) - You may not move or add more than 2 cards to skill checks. Action: Pass this skill check to move to any other location.
Resistance HQ (Tactics/Leadership/Treachery 7) - Human action: choose a character on NC (human or cylon), then pass this check to execute them.
Occupation Authority - President action: Draw 1 quorum card, then play 1 quorum card. Cylon action: Activate 1 occupation force, then place 1 OF on this position. [] ->
Breeder's Canyon - Human: reduce the highest resource by 1, advance the jump market by 1. Cylon: Draw and resolve the top card of the crisis deck. Skip prepare for jump step. [] ->
Shipyard - Human: Prepare OR evacuate 1 civilian ship to Echo or Foxtrot. If you evacuate a civilian ship, you may freely move to any Galactica location. Cylon: Look at the top ship of the Locked stack, place it on top or bottom [] ->
Locked Civilian Ships: 10/10
Prepared Civilian Ships: 0/10
Attack Table
Attack Occupation Forces: Human action in any location with an OF present. Roll a die, if 5 or higher, destroy the OF. You may discard a Maximum Firepower card to reroll this roll.
Detain a Human: Cylon action in any location with a human character and an OF present. Roll a die, if 1-3, move the human to Detention, if 4-7, move the human to the Medical Center.
Resource Status
Fuel: 4
Food: 5
Morale: 4
Population: 8
DRADIS
Not available.
Fleet Status
Damage Control
Galactica: Admiral's Quarters, -1 Fuel
Pegasus: Engine Room
Jump Preparation:
1 [ ]
2 [X]
3 [ ]
4 [ ]
5 [ ]
A [ ]
Intruder alert:
Not available.
Viper reserves: 0 destroyed, 3 damaged, 5 operational
Raptor reserves: 4 destroyed, 0 operational
Nuclear warheads: 2 remaining
Distance travelled: 7
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Just woke up.
+morale -population choice.
We need to evacuate and keep safe at least five ships to avoid our pop going into the red.
+morale -population choice.
We need to evacuate and keep safe at least five ships to avoid our pop going into the red.
Tyrol reveals himself to be a Cylon. He moves to Occupation Authority and gives his other unrevealed loyalty card to Ellen. He then discards
1 XO
1 XO
3 Declare Emergency
2 Repair
4 Scientific Research
3 Scientific Research
down to 3 cards.
Cavil automatically discards his entire hand due to his character disadvantage:
3 Sabotage
1 Broadcast Location
2 Launch Scout
Tyrol's special reveal ability is that every human player must discard 1 random skill card and draw 1 random treachery card. Then Tyrol draws 2 treachery cards.
Kat discards: 2 Evasive Maneuver
Starbuck discards: 3 Maximum Firepower
Tigh discards: 3 Declare Emergency
Ellen discards: 1 Executive Order
Cain discards: 1 Repair
I'll PM the treachery cards to everyone next... this is going to take a moment. I think I'll send everyone their whole hand for clarity's sake.
1 XO
1 XO
3 Declare Emergency
2 Repair
4 Scientific Research
3 Scientific Research
down to 3 cards.
Cavil automatically discards his entire hand due to his character disadvantage:
3 Sabotage
1 Broadcast Location
2 Launch Scout
Tyrol's special reveal ability is that every human player must discard 1 random skill card and draw 1 random treachery card. Then Tyrol draws 2 treachery cards.
Kat discards: 2 Evasive Maneuver
Starbuck discards: 3 Maximum Firepower
Tigh discards: 3 Declare Emergency
Ellen discards: 1 Executive Order
Cain discards: 1 Repair
I'll PM the treachery cards to everyone next... this is going to take a moment. I think I'll send everyone their whole hand for clarity's sake.
Oh, evacuation symbol on a crisis card means the current player takes the topmost ship of the Prepared stack and moves it to any space area around Galactica with a Viper launch icon (i.e. F or E). If the prepared stack is empty, nothing happens. If Galactica hasn't returned yet, nothing happens.
Hah!
Told you folks didn't I?
My only regret is not asking for Kat to execute him..
edit: The real question now is: What are the odds that Tyrol has been a cylon from the start? If he has been one from the start, Ellen is now a Cylon. If he hasn't been, we have to look at others.
Use the shipyard.
Before you do so though - I'm going to go through the thread from the beginning in an attempt to figure out whether sbr/Tyrol was a cylon from the start or not. Perhaps you should do so too. If we find evidence towards this we have to airlock ellen as soon as possible.
If we find none, we have to look a others. Considering how the jump went I think you are likely cleared for now. That leaves Kat and Snoopdogg.
All human players, we need to find the last cylon ASAP.
Right now I'm going over all the skill checks. May take a bit. And spam you all. ;-)
I will track the destiny deck and all the player's hands by assuming that all humans were not sabotaging, until I find a discrepancy.
Check #1:
Players:
Herbert West, 3 cards.
Ciryandor, 1 card
sbr, 1 card.
Only negative card is purple. This is not sbr or Ciryandor's color. Herbert West played 3. Yellow is not his color. If HW sabotaged this it had to be the two green cards and the purple.
edit: In fact, sbr only drew 1 leadership 2 engineering. One of the leadership cards has to be his.
Conclusion: Neither SBR or Ciryandor sabotaged this.
Destiny deck: 10 left, lost 1 tactics and 1 politics (edited to account for sbr's starting hand)
Alternate 10 card DD: 8 left, lost 1 tactics and 1 politics
Players: (this one is hard to figure out, please doublecheck for errors)
Cain:
Lost 1 Strategic Planning when shooting from Pegasus, 3 tactics on the check.
2 Cards remaining: 2 tactics.
Ciryandor:
2 cards remaining: 1 politics and 1 leadership
Rysz:
snoopdogg:
Jopi:
SBR:
2 cards remaining: 2 engineering
Jacob:
Draws 1 Tactics 1 Treachery OR Engineering
Will assume treachery as "his choice was pretty obvious" (paraphrasing Artell).
2 cards remaining: 1 Tactics 1 Treachery
I will track the destiny deck and all the player's hands by assuming that all humans were not sabotaging, until I find a discrepancy.
Check #1:
Players:
Herbert West, 3 cards.
Ciryandor, 1 card
sbr, 1 card.
Only negative card is purple. This is not sbr or Ciryandor's color. Herbert West played 3. Yellow is not his color. If HW sabotaged this it had to be the two green cards and the purple.
edit: In fact, sbr only drew 1 leadership 2 engineering. One of the leadership cards has to be his.
Conclusion: Neither SBR or Ciryandor sabotaged this.
Destiny deck: 10 left, lost 1 tactics and 1 politics (edited to account for sbr's starting hand)
Alternate 10 card DD: 8 left, lost 1 tactics and 1 politics
Players: (this one is hard to figure out, please doublecheck for errors)
Cain:
(I don't think I've ever seen Artell or Cain state which one he chose, but if he wasn't sabotaging he could only have picked the 3 LRD hand)artell said:
Lost 1 Strategic Planning when shooting from Pegasus, 3 tactics on the check.
2 Cards remaining: 2 tactics.
Ciryandor:
Lost 1 politics on the check.Artell said:
2 cards remaining: 1 politics and 1 leadership
Rysz:
Rysz said:
snoopdogg:
snoopdogg said:
Jopi:
Jopi said:
SBR:
Lost 1 leadership on the check.sbr said:
2 cards remaining: 2 engineering
Jacob:
Draws 1 Tactics 1 Treachery OR Engineering
Will assume treachery as "his choice was pretty obvious" (paraphrasing Artell).
2 cards remaining: 1 Tactics 1 Treachery
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Turn #2:
Jacob draws his hand: 1 tactics, 1 treachery OR 1 engineering.
4 cards remaining: 2 Tactics 1 or 2 Treachery, 0 or 1 engineering
Plays 2 God's Plan to the destiny deck.
4 cards remaining: 2 Tactics 0 or 1 Treachery, 0 or 1 engineering 1 card from the DD
Turn #3:
Snoopdogg draws 2 Leadership 3 Tactics for his turn.
Snoopdogg plays 5 Strategic planning shooting a basestar.
7 cards remaining: 3 leadership 4 tactics
Turn #4:
Ciryandor draws 2 Politics 2 Leadership 1 Treachery
7 cards remaining: 3 politics 3 leadership 1 Treachery
Ciryandor discards 3 Sabotage to move.
6 cards remaining: 3 politics 3 leadership
Turn #5:
Rysz draws 2 Piloting 2 Tactics 1 Leadership OR 1 Engineering
8 cards remaining: 4 piloting 2 tactics 0 or 1 leadership 1 or 2 engineering
Check #2:
Players:
Jacob-Lundgren: 1 card
snoopdogg: 3 cards
Ciryandor: 4 cards
Snoopdogg had 7 cards remaining: 3 leadership 4 tactics, played 3. No tactics in the results, so he must have played 3 leadership.
4 cards remaining: 4 tactics
Conclusion: Snoopdogg did not sabotage this check
Ciryandor had 6 cards remaining: 3 politics 3 leadership, played 4. All of those are good, and that accounts for the remainder of the good cards. He must have played 2 politics 2 leadership.
2 cards remaining: 1 politics 1 leadership.
Conclusion: Ciryandor did not sabotage this check
That leaves the DD and jacob accountable for the bad cards. The 1 treachery card was the God's Plan jacob played to the DD earlier. That leaves the 1 repair and 2 evasive maneuvers as jacob's and the DD, but we don't know which was which.
edit: However, the piloting card could only have come from the DD, either directly or through jacob, so it does not matter for DD accounting
Jacob:
3 cards remaining: 2 Tactics 0 or 1 Treachery, 0 or 1 engineering 0 or 1 card from the DD
DD: 8 remaining, lost 1 tactics and 1 politics, 0 or 1 repair, 1 piloting, 0 or 1 unknown that went to jacob
Alternate 10 card DD: 6 remaining, lost 1 tactics and 1 politics, 0 or 1 repair, 1 piloting, 0 or 1 unknown that went to jacob
edit: At this point I feel it's fair to conclude that both Ciryandor and snoopdogg were human before the sleeper phase. Both of them were helping out greatly on the skill checks.
Also, I suddenly realized that if I find evidence of sbr being a cylon before the sleeper phase it tells us nothing about Ellen after his reveal ..
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turn 6 status said:
Turn #6:
Kat draws 1 Leadership 2 Tactics 2 Piloting
8 cards remaining: 1 Leadership 3 tactics 4 piloting
Rysz plays 4 Strategic Planning to help Jopi kill a heavy raider.
7 cards remaining: 4 piloting 1 tactics 0 or 1 leadership 1 or 2 engineering
Check #3:
Players:
Rysz: 2 cards
sbr: 1 card
snoopdogg: 3 cards
herbert-west: 1 card
Kat: 3 cards
So: This check consists of 7 tactics 2 engineering 1 piloting and 1 leadership card. The leadership card is negative but does not look like a sabotage attempt. The rest is all positive.
This one does not add up. People publicly added 12 cards to this check (including DD), but the final result has 11 cards. (!)
I am going to assume there was 1 tactics card too few added to this check somewhere, as that one looks like the most likely thing to have gone wrong.
snoopdogg: Plays 3 cards, only has tactics left to choose from.
1 card remaining: 1 tactics.
sbr plays 1 card and only has engineering left.
1 card remaining: 1 engineering
herbert-west played 1 card and had only 2 tactics remaining.
1 card remaining: 1 tactics.
This leaves 3 tactics 1 engineering 1 piloting and 1 leadership unaccounted for.
Rysz plays 2, and only has positive colors.
5 cards remaining: 3 or 4 piloting 0 or 1 tactics 0 or 1 leadership 0 or 1 engineering (Most likely 4 piloting, 1 tactics and 1 engineering. Engineering is Rysz's default draw, and with 5 piloting cards he would probably have used one of those on this check.)
Jopi plays 3.
He has 8 cards remaining: 1 Leadership 3 tactics 4 piloting. Assuming the flunky leadership card wasn't his (highly unlikely) he would have played either 3 tactics or 2 tactics 1 piloting. Probably 3 tactics, if my reasoning regarding Rysz was correct.
5 cards remaining: 1 leadership 0 or 1 tactics 3 or 4 piloting.
DD: 6 remaining, lost 1 tactics and 1 politics, 0 or 1 repair, 1 piloting, 0 or 1 that went to jacob, 1 leadership, 1 card that Artell may or may not have forgotten to put in.
Alternate 10 card DD: 4 remaining, lost 1 tactics and 1 politics, 0 or 1 repair, 1 piloting, 0 or 1 that went to jacob, 1 leadership, 1 card that Artell may or may not have forgotten to put in.
edit: This would be a lot easier if Rysz could tell me what he played and drew on some of these checks. On the other hand, talking about what he put in would likely have broken secrecy rules I guess ..
@Artell: Can you tell us what mistake, if any, was made with this skill check?
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Yeah, looks like I've added a card somewhere. That check looks like it was a clear pass so it shouldn't have influenced the outcome of the game too much. I can try to track down where the error was and what card was added mistakenly but I can't concentrate on this right now. Sorry.
It's even possible there's more than one mistake. You will need a better GM in that case.
It's even possible there's more than one mistake. You will need a better GM in that case.
Yeah, looks like I've added a card somewhere. That check looks like it was a clear pass so it shouldn't have influenced the outcome of the game too much. I can try to track down where the error was and what card was added mistakenly but I can't concentrate on this right now. Sorry.
It's even possible there's more than one mistake. You will need a better GM in that case.
Don't worry about it.
Though I've recalculated it and it seems either you forgot to add a card from the DD or you forgot to actually publicly list it..
edit: I'm still going through this, I may or may not edit stuff in place as new stuff comes to light. Just FYI ;-)
Turn 6 end status
DD: 6 remaining, lost 1 tactics and 1 politics, 0 or 1 repair, 1 piloting, 0 or 1 that went to jacob, 1 leadership, 1 card that Artell may or may not have forgotten to put in.
Alternate 10 card DD: 4 remaining, lost 1 tactics and 1 politics, 0 or 1 repair, 1 piloting, 0 or 1 that went to jacob, 1 leadership, 1 card that Artell may or may not have forgotten to put in.
Players:
Jacob:
3 cards remaining: 2 Tactics 0 or 1 Treachery, 0 or 1 engineering 0 or 1 card from the DD
Ciryandor:
2 cards remaining: 1 politics 1 leadership.
snoopdogg:
1 card remaining: 1 tactics.
sbr:
1 card remaining: 1 engineering
herbert-west:
1 card remaining: 1 tactics.
Rysz:
5 cards remaining: 3 or 4 piloting 0 or 1 tactics 0 or 1 leadership 0 or 1 engineering (Most likely 5 piloting, 1 tactics and 1 engineering. Engineering is Rysz's default draw, and with 4 piloting cards he would probably have used one of those on the turn 6 check.)
Jopi:
5 cards remaining: 1 leadership 0 or 1 tactics 3 or 4 piloting.
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Turn 7
Tyrol draws 2 Leadership 2 Engineering 1 Politics
6 cards remaining: 2 Leadership 3 Engineering 1 Politics
DD: 6 remaining, lost 1 tactics and 1 politics, 0 or 1 repair, 1 piloting, 0 or 1 that went to jacob, 1 leadership, 1 card that Artell may or may not have forgotten to put in.
Alternate 10 card DD: 4 remaining, lost 1 tactics and 1 politics, 0 or 1 repair, 1 piloting, 0 or 1 that went to jacob, 1 leadership, 1 card that Artell may or may not have forgotten to put in.
Players:
Jacob:
3 cards remaining: 2 Tactics 0 or 1 Treachery, 0 or 1 engineering 0 or 1 card from the DD
Ciryandor:
2 cards remaining: 1 politics 1 leadership.
snoopdogg:
1 card remaining: 1 tactics.
sbr:
1 card remaining: 1 engineering
herbert-west:
1 card remaining: 1 tactics.
Rysz:
5 cards remaining: 3 or 4 piloting 0 or 1 tactics 0 or 1 leadership 0 or 1 engineering (Most likely 5 piloting, 1 tactics and 1 engineering. Engineering is Rysz's default draw, and with 4 piloting cards he would probably have used one of those on the turn 6 check.)
Jopi:
5 cards remaining: 1 leadership 0 or 1 tactics 3 or 4 piloting.
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Turn 7
Tyrol draws 2 Leadership 2 Engineering 1 Politics
6 cards remaining: 2 Leadership 3 Engineering 1 Politics
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Didn't I tell you to shut up mr. ironbutt?
Check #4a:
The skill check was chosen but no DD cards seem to have been drawn.
Rysz plays 4 Run Interference and 2x 1 Evasive Maneuver to avoid getting shot down by raiders.
2 cards remaining: 0 or 1 piloting 0 or 1 tactics 0 or 1 leadership 0 or 1 engineering
Turn 8
Herbert-West / Cain draws 2 Leadership 3 Tactics
6 cards remaining: 2 Leadership 4 Tactics
Check #4b
Players:
Rysz: 1 card
2 cards remaining: 0 or 1 piloting 0 or 1 tactics 0 or 1 leadership 0 or 1 engineering
Snoopdogg: 1 card
1 card remaining: 1 tactics.
Herbert-West: 2 cards
6 cards remaining: 2 Leadership 4 Tactics
Jacob-Lundgren: 1 card
3 cards remaining: 2 Tactics 0 or 1 Treachery, 0 or 1 engineering 0 or 1 card from the DD
Jopi: 2 cards
5 cards remaining: 1 leadership 0 or 1 tactics 3 or 4 piloting.
DD: 6 remaining, lost 1 tactics and 1 politics, 0 or 1 repair, 1 piloting, 0 or 1 that went to jacob, 1 leadership, 1 card that Artell may or may not have forgotten to put in.
Alternate 10 card DD: 4 remaining, lost 1 tactics and 1 politics, 0 or 1 repair, 1 piloting, 0 or 1 that went to jacob, 1 leadership, 1 card that Artell may or may not have forgotten to put in.
Two negative cards - a 2 repair and a 5 At Any Cost.
This is an interesting check. Jacob could easily have played the 2 repair card - either he got it from the DD or he got it from elsewhere. But he also could have played the leadership 5 card, because of his DD draw. A negative 5 card looks very much like someone sabotaging this check so I'm going to go over this one with a fine comb ..
Snoopdogg: Had to play his last tactics card here.
0 cards remaining.
Herbert-West: Assuming 2 tactics.
4 cards remaining: 2 Leadership 2 Tactics
Rysz: I'm going to meta a bit here - since I know Rysz was/is not a cylon, and he said publicly he could contribute only one card which was helpful because of the jump, I am fairly certain this was his last piloting card. Leadership and engineering wouldn't have helped, tactics might still have been of use. That makes me 99% sure engineering was his last remaining card at this point.
And the big help would have been the 4 max firepower card. edit: Correcting this, I'm finding too many errors later on.
1 card remaining: 0 or 1 piloting 0 or 1 tactics 0 or 1 leadership 0 or 1 engineering
At this point we have all tactics cards and 1 piloting card accounted for.
Jopi: 2 cards. Assuming once more that he wasn't evil, that would have had to be 2 piloting cards or 1 piloting 1 tactics.
3 cards remaining: 1 leadership 0 or 1 tactics 1 or 2 piloting.
Jacob-Lundgren: 1 card
We have 1 leadership, 1 engineering, 1 piloting in this check still unaccounted for. The piloting card had to be the DD since jacob wouldn't play a positive card on this, I think. Leaving Jacob responsible for 1 (1 leadership or 1 engineering) , and the DD for the other (1 leadership or 1 engineering). This simplifies the options for jacob's remaining hand a bit. At this point he can no longer have any engineering cards.
2 cards remaining: 2 Tactics
DD: 4 remaining, lost 1 tactics and 1 politics, 0 or 1 engineering, 2 piloting, 0 or 1 that went to jacob (probably a engineering or leadership card if it wasn't the piloting card from earlier), 1 leadership, (1 leadership or 1 engineering), 1 card that Artell may or may not have forgotten to put in.
Alternate 10 card DD: 2 remaining, lost 1 tactics and 1 politics, 0 or 1 engineering, 2 piloting, 0 or 1 that went to jacob (probably a engineering or leadership card if it wasn't the piloting card from earlier), 1 leadership, (1 leadership or 1 engineering), 1 card that Artell may or may not have forgotten to put in.
At this point I will take the time to point out that a lot of people seem to be cleared or semi-cleared of being a cylon. Snoopdogg, Kat, Ciryandor all contributed significantly to checks. Herbert-West played some pretty strategic helpful cards. The jump seemed helpful. Even SBR seems more or less clean, though not entirely. I'm still going to continue this but mostly it's about what people's hands were like when we hit the sleeper phase, and maybe seeing if I can find something that exonerates sbr from being a cylon before as having our president cleared of being a cylon sounds like a rather good thing to me.
edit: However, I am off for a while now. Herbert, it's your call. I don't have enough evidence to clear sbr completely but I think Ciryandor may still be trustworthy.
If I haven't convinced you yet by my actions, I assure you I can be trusted as well. Take a look at the last few pages (starting at the sleeper phase) and decide who you trust and who you don't from that. Perhaps we can still point at a likely suspect for the last cylon by just looking at who helped and who didn't since the sleeper phase kicked in.
I have a confession to make....
I...cavil....am a cylon
Didn't I tell you to shut up mr. ironbutt?
Check #4a:
The skill check was chosen but no DD cards seem to have been drawn.
Rysz plays 4 Run Interference and 2x 1 Evasive Maneuver to avoid getting shot down by raiders.
2 cards remaining: 0 or 1 piloting 0 or 1 tactics 0 or 1 leadership 0 or 1 engineering
Turn 8
Herbert-West / Cain draws 2 Leadership 3 Tactics
6 cards remaining: 2 Leadership 4 Tactics
Check #4b
Players:
Rysz: 1 card
2 cards remaining: 0 or 1 piloting 0 or 1 tactics 0 or 1 leadership 0 or 1 engineering
Snoopdogg: 1 card
1 card remaining: 1 tactics.
Herbert-West: 2 cards
6 cards remaining: 2 Leadership 4 Tactics
Jacob-Lundgren: 1 card
3 cards remaining: 2 Tactics 0 or 1 Treachery, 0 or 1 engineering 0 or 1 card from the DD
Jopi: 2 cards
5 cards remaining: 1 leadership 0 or 1 tactics 3 or 4 piloting.
DD: 6 remaining, lost 1 tactics and 1 politics, 0 or 1 repair, 1 piloting, 0 or 1 that went to jacob, 1 leadership, 1 card that Artell may or may not have forgotten to put in.
Alternate 10 card DD: 4 remaining, lost 1 tactics and 1 politics, 0 or 1 repair, 1 piloting, 0 or 1 that went to jacob, 1 leadership, 1 card that Artell may or may not have forgotten to put in.
Two negative cards - a 2 repair and a 5 At Any Cost.
This is an interesting check. Jacob could easily have played the 2 repair card - either he got it from the DD or he got it from elsewhere. But he also could have played the leadership 5 card, because of his DD draw. A negative 5 card looks very much like someone sabotaging this check so I'm going to go over this one with a fine comb ..
Snoopdogg: Had to play his last tactics card here.
0 cards remaining.
Herbert-West: Assuming 2 tactics.
4 cards remaining: 2 Leadership 2 Tactics
Rysz: I'm going to meta a bit here - since I know Rysz was/is not a cylon, and he said publicly he could contribute only one card which was helpful because of the jump, I am fairly certain this was his last piloting card. Leadership and engineering wouldn't have helped, tactics might still have been of use. That makes me 99% sure engineering was his last remaining card at this point.
And the big help would have been the 4 max firepower card. edit: Correcting this, I'm finding too many errors later on.
1 card remaining: 0 or 1 piloting 0 or 1 tactics 0 or 1 leadership 0 or 1 engineering
At this point we have all tactics cards and 1 piloting card accounted for.
Jopi: 2 cards. Assuming once more that he wasn't evil, that would have had to be 2 piloting cards or 1 piloting 1 tactics.
3 cards remaining: 1 leadership 0 or 1 tactics 1 or 2 piloting.
Jacob-Lundgren: 1 card
We have 1 leadership, 1 engineering, 1 piloting in this check still unaccounted for. The piloting card had to be the DD since jacob wouldn't play a positive card on this, I think. Leaving Jacob responsible for 1 (1 leadership or 1 engineering) , and the DD for the other (1 leadership or 1 engineering). This simplifies the options for jacob's remaining hand a bit. At this point he can no longer have any engineering cards.
2 cards remaining: 2 Tactics
DD: 4 remaining, lost 1 tactics and 1 politics, 0 or 1 engineering, 2 piloting, 0 or 1 that went to jacob (probably a engineering or leadership card if it wasn't the piloting card from earlier), 1 leadership, (1 leadership or 1 engineering), 1 card that Artell may or may not have forgotten to put in.
Alternate 10 card DD: 2 remaining, lost 1 tactics and 1 politics, 0 or 1 engineering, 2 piloting, 0 or 1 that went to jacob (probably a engineering or leadership card if it wasn't the piloting card from earlier), 1 leadership, (1 leadership or 1 engineering), 1 card that Artell may or may not have forgotten to put in.
At this point I will take the time to point out that a lot of people seem to be cleared or semi-cleared of being a cylon. Snoopdogg, Kat, Ciryandor all contributed significantly to checks. Herbert-West played some pretty strategic helpful cards. The jump seemed helpful. Even SBR seems more or less clean, though not entirely. I'm still going to continue this but mostly it's about what people's hands were like when we hit the sleeper phase, and maybe seeing if I can find something that exonerates sbr from being a cylon before as having our president cleared of being a cylon sounds like a rather good thing to me.
edit: However, I am off for a while now. Herbert, it's your call. I don't have enough evidence to clear sbr completely but I think Ciryandor may still be trustworthy.
If I haven't convinced you yet by my actions, I assure you I can be trusted as well. Take a look at the last few pages (starting at the sleeper phase) and decide who you trust and who you don't from that. Perhaps we can still point at a likely suspect for the last cylon by just looking at who helped and who didn't since the sleeper phase kicked in.
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