Divisions engaged in combat won't withdraw from battle. Divisions which are not, will immediately halt, and not engage in any further attacks.
Battleplans Fix
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A halt button makes a lot of sense (I will assume its not a cancel the plan button) if you want to halt the whole advance but you still believe you can halt individual Divisions manually even though Paradox have said a Division will always move forward if the Front moves forward?
I think @Bridger15 is one of the better ones too. Except when he closes a pocket he just leaves it there and waits for them to run out of supplies and lose. When it looks to me that it can sometimes take a long time for that to happen in HOI4. I haven't played the game but I think it's usually best to destroy the pocket(especially if they have a chance to breakout) as soon as you can to free up those units for the regular front. I was yelling at my screen "Destroy the pocket,Destroy the pocket for pete sake".
I think there's a spot in one of the later WWWs that Da9l did where he quickly did a plan with a pincer movement in it to surround and cut off a city. It was just a flash of it as quickly as he does things, if anyone else finds or remembers which WWW it was, would love to think I am not just imagining this. (Though getting so close to release, might have been dreaming of my first campaign on Monday, lol)
It is not a cancel the plan button, it is a Halt button - the plan still remains. If the units halt then the front won't be moving forward, unless some units already in combat move it, or units outside the plan move it. Then your "halted" units know they should be defending the front line, they move to the front, but they don't attack beyond it.
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Attacking the pocket can use your equipment etc. If they are quite strong then leaving them to run out of supplies is not a bad thing to do. But yeah, attack, attack, attack!
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The particular instance I was talking about was in Spain. They broke out after awhile and it joined with the main front. But then a month later he got it back and it was an even bigger pocket. So it worked out.
Units which are moving or attacking complete their order. But of course you can intervene and manually order a unit which is attacking where they have no chance of winning because of low org/equipment etc to withdraw from the attack. They won't attack again until the plan is Executed again.
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Yeah, you have to be careful. Remember that pocketed provinces are not always out of supply - local supply can keep them able to attack, and try to break out. Best option is to keep them in constant combat. If they try to move away from combat that is counted as retreat and they would be retreating into your controlled province, so are wiped out. Pin them there with some of your forces, but you don't need to use all of your forces round the pocket, some of them can get some R&R
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I have always assumed the unexplained stops in an advance occur partially to allow the AI controlled unit to rebuild its planning bonus (and organization). It seems to prefer to attack with the largest possible bonus. A little bit like all AI battle plans are commanded by Montgomery and none by Patton.
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If you set up one of those multi-phase offensives, will each army pause automatically once they reach their designated phase line to prepare for the next step?
WOW Potski! Still answering questions about the battle plan bonus? Geez, it has been going on for weeks/months now
This community is so fortunate to have you still willing to help after answering the same questions over and over again. You sir have the patience of an angel
Just a tip to the community. Just read Potski's posts about the BP bonus. He is all knowing and takes his time to explain everything.
Here is the first MEGA thread: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/planning-bonus-mega-thread.929774/
A tip of the cap to you sir for helping a lot of people get over the knowledge hump on this. I hope a (Paradox) T-Shirt is coming your way for all your work!
This community is so fortunate to have you still willing to help after answering the same questions over and over again. You sir have the patience of an angel
Just a tip to the community. Just read Potski's posts about the BP bonus. He is all knowing and takes his time to explain everything.
Here is the first MEGA thread: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/planning-bonus-mega-thread.929774/
A tip of the cap to you sir for helping a lot of people get over the knowledge hump on this. I hope a (Paradox) T-Shirt is coming your way for all your work!
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OK so you cant really halt one Division because all the other Divisions in the Plan will still be moving forward and if they move the Front forward the Division that you halted will then move forward correct?
There is a button to halt all the divisions you have selected, BUT if that division is part of an ACTIVE battle plan that demands offensive action - the AI will send it back to its task. You will have to either cancel the plan or remove the division from the army. At least that's what I saw from a gameplay video when someone tried to halt an entire army that had an active plan - the AI re-issued all orders it wanted.
I thought as much we will leave Potski to carry on with his imaginary war.
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It's not an active battle plan as soon as you hit the BRB.
Imaginary? Those troops are real, those generals are real. Colonel Modestus is oh so real.
It's not an active battle plan as soon as you hit the BRB.
Imaginary? Those troops are real, those generals are real. Colonel Modestus is oh so real.
Some of your posts seem to have mysteriously disappeared Potski ? Very odd
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Doesn't this break a big part of the BP system? Creating multi-stage plans sounds much more fun then just using the BP to order a general advance in "that direction".
In Hoi 3, I spent sooo much time creating plans of multiple stages. And of course some things had to be changed, but in the big picture, it went pretty much as planned. Might be caused by the poorer AI in HOI 3, though.
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Imaginary? Those troops are real, those generals are real. Colonel Modestus is oh so real.
That is the best part of this thread, I want to see what happens.