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didn`t i mention that Spain won those war ? :cool:
 

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meh, it just ain't fun with all those stupid disconnects :mad:

I'll have a look at the save after the game to check if the AI/braindead didn't make TOO much of a mess of Sweden....

For now, I'll let you enjoy a rehost free rest of the evening.
 

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i`m afraid we need a sub for Overnight in the game tomorrow
 

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I'll have a look at the save after the game to check if the AI/braindead didn't make TOO much of a mess of Sweden....

Denmark out in 30 years through player drop and world maps and COT through unallowed map acqusition isn't too bad for Sweden.
 

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Tzar is most disspleased how the great sultan of Ottoman Empire seems to have so great love for pagans. Well Ottoman Empire will from now receive the attention it seems to scream for it self from Russia.

Fate of Mustapha the great hreo and leader of Ottoman troops should give Sultan some ideas that it wont be just joy ride in Russia.
 

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When Austrian troops threw the French occupation forces out of Italy nervous Venetian marines landed and reconquered her Italian possessions. Finally the war with France ended in a stalemate and White peace. All Venice casaulties had been in vain except for that her Trade in French centers of trade had been protected from infringement. Although very costly the sacrifice had been worth it.

Venice then helped Austria fight rebels in a civil war that reached the gates of Vienna.

Seeing how Venice lagged behind in trade technology and income a bold decision was made. If the Lisboa map chambers werent' properly guarded they should be opened to Venetian scribes by force. No other objective was drawn up for this war. Considering the aid Venice had contributed to the Habsburgs in the last war there was no retribution to be expected from them for this action.

The Venetian navy took the Portugesian counterpart by surprise by a less gentlemanly sneak attack and routed them. Field marshal Bragadin landed and was almost defetead by some token coastal defence force. Damn the low morale of Venetian marine infantry! The ensuing assault failed but was near to carry the fortress.

Spain then declared war and made battle versus the Venetian navy and badly beat it forcing it to retreat to the bay of biscay. Duke of Alba came marching across the border and venetian forces refused to rally from the failed assault. Luckily Bragadin's siege skills carried the day and Lisboa fell and the maps were sercretely couriered to Venice with utmost haste!

So that Venice should be able to defend their newly won knowledge of the new world Spain agreed to a cease fire and the Venetian fleet, the half that remained, returned to the Adriatic from the french harbour where it had seeked refuge. The surviving soldiers from the siege of Lisboa marched across the pyrenees and the Alps through French territory and soon joined in a march of victory in main square of Venice.

Venetian armed forces are heavily reduced but traders are spreading across rich markets and hopefully the income from this will allow a reconstruction of her defense forces.

As it stands poor, poor Venice is without friends and allies in a dangerous world. Her leaders understands that it is imperative to seek friends and now eagerly looks around for partners to discuss the future with.
 

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Not that good session for Russia expencive and useless war against Poland who fought valiantly defeated and lost to Russian troops in great battles that rage in both Poland and Russian land.

Tzar called move to east on uncharted territory of siberia where eager colonist followed explorers. Unfortunedly colonization had to be halted because of sudden attack of Ottomans who claimed to come help the few muslims that live free in Russian empire and as they called pagans that are in eyes of sultan allso muslims wonder what muslim world thinks about this.

After many years and many battles Ottoman empires greates leader Mustapha was killed and Russia accepted to pay 200 ducats for Sultan to end war even thought it was done with great disspleasure. But more important issues weighted more so peace was made.

Well Russian people will be patient there willcome day for vegeance one day and as its clear sultan is madly wanting siberia there is no need to hide that Russia will wait its time to get even one day it will happen.
 

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As I understand it the house rule for Spain not being allowed to avoid the bancrupcy event had been suddenly and unnoticably dropped? Why? When? How? I am strongly in favour of these events being enforced, as should be known by now, since it's really no measurement how strong a Spain can be built without taking them.

This post obviously has nothing to do with the recent Spanish-Venetian temporary hostilities but is a fundamental opinion of mine in every campaign.
 

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juv95hrn said:
As I understand it the house rule for Spain not being allowed to avoid the bancrupcy event had been suddenly and unnoticably dropped? Why? When? How? I am strongly in favour of these events being enforced, as should be known by now, since it's really no measurement how strong a Spain can be built without taking them.

This post obviously has nothing to do with the recent Spanish-Venetian temporary hostilities but is a fundamental opinion of mine in every campaign.

IIRC, Fredrik said he would be editing "proper" Bankruptcy effects to anyone who held sufficient gold mines.
 

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As I understand it the house rule for Spain not being allowed to avoid the bancrupcy event had been suddenly and unnoticably dropped? Why? When? How? I am strongly in favour of these events being enforced, as should be known by now, since it's really no measurement how strong a Spain can be built without taking them.
Yeah hum, i have to back juv on that, although i am not participating in the campaign ;).
 

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juv95hrn said:
As I understand it the house rule for Spain not being allowed to avoid the bancrupcy event had been suddenly and unnoticably dropped? Why? When? How? I am strongly in favour of these events being enforced, as should be known by now, since it's really no measurement how strong a Spain can be built without taking them.

This post obviously has nothing to do with the recent Spanish-Venetian temporary hostilities but is a fundamental opinion of mine in every campaign.

Fredrik dropped it when Drake wasn't going to play if they were enforced.
 

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Fredrik82 said:
Spain: Mali will be removed as a vassal.
Poland: Courland will be removed as a vassal.

mali vassal didn't add anything asfar as i know..... perhaps 1-2mp total
 

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ForzaA said:
IIRC, Fredrik said he would be editing "proper" Bankruptcy effects to anyone who held sufficient gold mines.

:eek: how much is "sufficient gold mines"? how much gold mines may i own before i get "proper" bankruptcy effects edited? is it an absolute number or set into relation to total income?
NL now owns 3 gold mines, i hope this isnt too much :rolleyes: .
would be nice to get a clarification of this rule.
 
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I decieded to drop the bancrupcy rule when it was decieded that holland should be played from start. I didn't want to make special rules for a country that already was sacrificed a great deal. That was announced way back...
 

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Sweden and France,
please look at the save if any major disaster struck you nation while being AI/idle.

Mostly events and other importent things.
Sweden were idle for about two years i think before we reshosted to pick up FAL. Same thing for France.