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Tommas said:
Thats not true
I have no great leaders right now.
I have a very small war fleet compared to yours(350) and spain(295), you are far ahead of me. You alone have approx. 130 warships more.
You have a naval CRT!
MP wise I think I am quite behind if you compare with you and spain.
etc...
Is it just me or do all iberians lie all the time to cover their tracks???
England and Holland did build alot of ships in a period during this conflict.devil said:
The graph did show over 500 ships. The iberian peaceloving alliance was forced to follow this evil rearmament that was started by the English.
The English choosed to build old vessals while the iberians did build new warships. Then they blame us for having more warships then them
We choosed not to interfere in the German war mostly for this reason, we knew that the evil English was up to something.
The English should stop blaiming others, it is pretty clear that they want the iberians to fight long devestating wars against France so that they can attack us in the back when it pleases them.devil said:
Again the lying evil greedy spain King speaks... Ofcourse the English has to correct this pathetic iberian would-be King.Fredrik82 said:
The Fact is Spain and Porto started building ships, we even intercepted a message from Spain telling Porto to expand his fleet. Now ofcourse England and Holland reacted and began a war fleet production, we feel threathend by evil greedy iberian that hold a iron grip on europe with their huge alliance. Let me remind everyone: SPA-POR-AUS-VEN-POL-RUS!!!
Again a lie, if the iberian leader of the axis of evil only knew what he was talking about, what a nice world we would live in. The fact is ofcourse england haven't build any galleys since 1550. Neither have we build any warships before spain and porto started mass building. I am sure we will soon see them attack the innocent French again to prevent the fallen emperor in austira to lose land!!!Fredrik82 said:The English choosed to build old vessals while the iberians did build new warships. Then they blame us for having more warships then them
That is also untrue, England was fighting evil Mughals that invaded India, rightful English Land!!Fredrik82 said:
We are not blaming others, we are telling you that you are evil, you are greedy, you rule europe with a iron fist via. your Axis of evil. The fact is your attack on innocent France, you had no right attacking France. When he was liberating genoa from the vile venetians!!Fredrik82 said:The English should stop blaiming others, it is pretty clear that they want the iberians to fight long devestating wars against France so that they can attack us in the back when it pleases them.
You should check the facts first, my dear English king.devil said:The fact is your attack on innocent France, you had no right attacking France. When he was liberating genoa from the vile venetians!!
France was the agressor, so i hardly call them innocent
How can the attacker "liberate" people, italians in this case, from the Venetian kingdom that is ruled by italians?
The old rulers of Genoese did so maybe, but the people is still italian.cheech said:
That is ofcourse not true, france was the aggressor only vs. aus-ven. You where the aggressor vs. France. Greedy Iberian....Fredrik82 said:You should check the facts first, my dear English king.
France was the agressor, so i hardly call them innocent
ohhh so by that definition all iberian lands are yours? and all german lands belong to austria? hell does all scandinavia, baltic and ugric lands belong to sweden? Does all mongol and ruthenian, ugric and baltic lands belong to russia? That venice also claims to be a italian state is something only the foolish believe, all know they are evil greedy oppressors of the italian people, that really are much more enlightend under French Rule.Fredrik82 said:
OOC. Why does everyone believe italy belongs to venice?
or any cultured prov "belong" to that nation who claims it as his base culture. No one is destined to rule any land.
devil said:That is ofcourse not true, france was the aggressor only vs. aus-ven. You where the aggressor vs. France. Greedy Iberian....
ohhh so by that definition all iberian lands are yours? and all german lands belong to austria? hell does all scandinavia, baltic and ugric lands belong to sweden? Does all mongol and ruthenian, ugric and baltic lands belong to russia? That venice also claims to be a italian state is something only the foolish believe, all know they are evil greedy oppressors of the italian people, that really are much more enlightend under French Rule.
Yes let's all claim ourselves some nice anglosaxon lands since they can't be entirely in English hands by your definition.
Oh yes, care to explain -15% (or was it 30 :| ) tax penalty for wrong culture?
Hmmm, too bad we didn't have this argument 100 years ago, back when Spain and Austria controlled so many French provinces . I suppose you were unjustified there too. How bout an apology for holding those rightful French provs for so long .
. I suppose you were unjustified there too. How bout an apology for holding those rightful French provs for so long .
Please excuse me but all of this England's spamplomacy makes me want to scream. It seems that, being driven by his hate towards Spain, Devil is willing to approve France's aggression ( together with the saracens ) against Venice.
Ask yourself, was it justified?
Was it fair?
Did Venice, already fighting against OE, have any chance?
Ask yourself England, how far will you go with your hate?
To Cheech - it seems for me that only the minors pay when majors fight.
Ask yourself, was it justified?
Was it fair?
Did Venice, already fighting against OE, have any chance?
Ask yourself England, how far will you go with your hate?
To Cheech - it seems for me that only the minors pay when majors fight.
Yeah claim yourslef some anglosaxon lands, who am I to say they are mine by default? the tax penalty has something to do with the culture of the prov, it has nothing to do with who should own it.Chaingun said:Yes let's all claim ourselves some nice anglosaxon lands since they can't be entirely in English hands by your definition.
Oh yes, care to explain -15% (or was it 30 :| ) tax penalty for wrong culture?
Excuse me that I telll the truth, instead of all these lies from the iberians. The fact is you are part of a monster axis of evil, ruling europe via Terror.jamala said:
Devil is who??? The King of Spain?? :rofl:jamala said:
I am the the King of England, the humble servant of the reformed faith, the bringer of balance to europe. And I know you agree there is not balance now, with this huge powerblock.
Ofcourse it was justified, you are the oppressor of the italian people, only god knows how many suffer at your cruel hands every day. But reports say manyjamala said:
Indeed it was very fair by France, but not very fair by Spain, don't forget you alliance partners in Spain made sure you did lose Genoa, by only securing the peace for Austria, leaving you to dry.jamala said:
Seems Venice was doing fine fighting the OE maybe a bit too well, brandenburg was overrun by the evil Austrian with unlimited access to moneyjamala said:
Also Venice seems to have overstreched his domain, ruling most of italy with a iron fist and having taken colonial posessions he can't hope to defend.
With my hate? England does hate anyone, we are just mildly displeased with evil imperial iberian scum, that try to rule europe via huge power block streching from iberia to siberiajamala said:
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devil said:Yeah claim yourslef some anglosaxon lands, who am I to say they are mine by default? the tax penalty has something to do with the culture of the prov, it has nothing to do with who should own it.
Ah, but you don't think role-playing exists then? Expect for the logic of greater income efficiency, it makes a bit more sense from the RP perspective if an italian nation owns an italian province.
However I've seen the English king role-play a mad cow many times, so I hope he isn't all that unaware of the concept after all. :wacko:Devil said:
1) Spain did not manage peace with OE for Austria. Threat of English DOW prevented him to. 2) Care to explain why it is so noble of France already attacking a nation attacked by the OE? I won't whine about it any further, but I have to defend our alliance from unjust words from the mouth of a toad.
I will reply to you tomorrow chaingun, don't worry about that, but right now I am too tired o
I won't be able to play the two next sessions, I asked mulli to sub/perm england.
o I won't be able to play the two next sessions, I asked mulli to sub/perm england.
You seen the English King Role Play???? WHAT A INSULT!!!Chaingun said:Ah, but you don't think role-playing exists then? Expect for the logic of greater income efficiency, it makes a bit more sense from the RP perspective if an italian nation owns an italian province.
I don't know any king that roleplays but then again you are No King, dear archduke of Austria. So maybe you have such a sick hobby. Again I will point out that if you can't hold your land, you don't deserve keeping it. *
Spain managed to prove he is still allied to all of you and that he is trying to control all europe with a iron grip via his Axis of Evil.Chaingun said:
*OOC. Nationalism is way too overrated in eu2, the tax cut is way too much, the peasents really didn't care that much.
This is the leadertable from last session. If you guys do not post any changes then this will be the valid leadertable for todays session
L3 for brandenburg
L3 for denmark
L3 for Austria
L3 for France
L3 for the Ottomans
L2 for venetio with chance for explo/conq
L2 for Spain
L2 for England
L3 for poland
L3 for Russia
L2 for Holland
L2 for Sweden with chance for explo/conq
L1 for Portugal
L3 for brandenburg
L3 for denmark
L3 for Austria
L3 for France
L3 for the Ottomans
L2 for venetio with chance for explo/conq
L2 for Spain
L2 for England
L3 for poland
L3 for Russia
L2 for Holland
L2 for Sweden with chance for explo/conq
L1 for Portugal
devil said:
While nationalism was not near as strong as today it still was tough work to control certain areas because of issues of the populace resembling nationalism. An example I'm sure you know of is Skåne; when Sweden captured it, it was not only troublesome to repel Danish invasions, but also different guerilla group of local peasants.
The silly thing though is how the full tax penalty remains forever despite how long a province was owned by a country not of the same culture. I would agree the effects would be somewhat lessened in a time span of let's say 10 to 50 years.