Battle for the Bosporus will need the same balance patches most DLCs receive after launch

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Seems like the focus tree for turkey is geared for joining the war late like 1940-41 , the same times for nations like Romania (historical focuses) and Hungary.

seems like the best start for turkey is just build tall and focus on civs until late game. It’s workable for historical ish games (no majors declare war until 1939 etc) but is awful for no rules meme games as your just prey early on and by the time you can actually do anything the wars over.

no, I think the nations that really shines with the new dlc is Bulgaria, I can get 45 factories without expansion by 1940 and then spend all my industry on rapidly militarising, and the axis faction is incentivised into giving you free land in mp games due to your claims and ability to make cores.

its Going to make Bulgaria really fun to play, as you won’t have the same pressures as italy or Romania defence wise, so you can a really specialised nation without having to put mils elsewhere. This is great, as before the nations that had that freedom were mostly allied nations or russian Puppets.
 
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Seems like the focus tree for turkey is geared for joining the war late like 1940-41 , the same times for nations like Romania (historical focuses) and Hungary.

seems like the best start for turkey is just build tall and focus on civs until late game. It’s workable for historical ish games (no majors declare war until 1939 etc) but is awful for no rules meme games as your just prey early on and by the time you can actually do anything the wars over.

no, I think the nations that really shines with the new dlc is Bulgaria, I can get 45 factories without expansion by 1940 and then spend all my industry on rapidly militarising, and the axis faction is incentivised into giving you free land in mp games due to your claims and ability to make cores.

its Going to make Bulgaria really fun to play, as you won’t have the same pressures as italy or Romania defence wise, so you can a really specialised nation without having to put mils elsewhere. This is great, as before the nations that had that freedom were mostly allied nations or russian Puppets.

Eh I have to disagree. Maybe its cause i only tried the tree once, but I felt like Bulgaria was super weak. No manpower what so ever, can't get its military going to declare wars, and it stuck between romania who france is guarenteeing and Yugoslavia. And Greece. I think Greece is the star. Greeces new Byzantium side is amazing.
 
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I am at work and it hit me that in my attempts at playing Turkey, I was rushing to get to my first war. The earliest I could manage was 1940 and the majors eventually become involved. Has anyone decided not to start that first war and just try to grow strong internally? Does Turkey get strong enough to have some actions it can take later in the game, on its own? It does not seem plausible, but I realize I never tried it.

Focuses would have to be borderline broken to compete with taking land.

However, couldn't Turkey take other focus paths and simply justify war like any generic nation, given its war goal focuses take ages to access? You might even get some focus bypasses that way?
 

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Focuses would have to be borderline broken to compete with taking land.

However, couldn't Turkey take other focus paths and simply justify war like any generic nation, given its war goal focuses take ages to access? You might even get some focus bypasses that way?

Very good question. It may be that there was not enough world tension to justify as going down that left side of the focus tree is a democratic path. I just cannot remember right now. I may have not noticed that there was a time where I could have. When I get home I will take a look at my save game and check that out. Thanks for the suggestion!