Base Game Eu4 forts bug??

[VeryAngry]

Forts seem to be broken. As in the zone of control system is messed up, zones are sometimes active despite the fort no longer existing or even worse my OWN fort is cutting me off despite it being unseiged and under my control no sure how the hell this works. ( and while I understand the amount of fucks givien to the non dlc players are zero or close to it Have lost a few wars with a few different countries and honestly I'm not the kind of person to go post in a forum much less a game forum but the salt is real. Please fix. )

 

[Malecord]

If you look for help to get an explanation on how forts work post a screenshot and a description. Forts rules are like black magic but there is always some warlock on the forums who is able to explain you what happened.

If you think there is a bug, the bug section of the forums have instructions on how to report it.

 

[hayseed]

We all share your pain. I’ve found solace in deciding that the AI is allowed to randomly ignore the ZOC rules in order to make the AI less predictable. I’m not saying that is real, just that thinking about it that way helps me get past the dozen random ways I’ve seen the AI ignore my forts.

 

[JaxElite]

Most ZOC rules are rather simple to explain if we get a screenshot.

Most edge cases come from merging armies or naval landings.

The rest is wizardry

 

[hayseed]

Most ZOC rules are rather simple to explain if we get a screenshot.

Most edge cases come from merging armies or naval landings.

The rest is wizardry

Remind me how to take a screenshot and where it stores on my computer. I’ve only doe it once and forgotten how to do it. Thanks

 

[Blackwhitecavias]

Remind me how to take a screenshot and where it stores on my computer. I’ve only doe it once and forgotten how to do it. Thanks

I usually use the snipping tool (type snip in the search bar and you'll find it) in order to capture part of my screen.

 

[hayseed]

I usually use the snipping tool (type snip in the search bar and you'll find it) in order to capture part of my screen.

Thanks

 

[JaxElite]

I usually use the snipping tool (type snip in the search bar and you'll find it) in order to capture part of my screen.

Win+shift+s opens that tool as well without needing to alt tab

 

[grotaclas]

You can also use F11 to make eu4 screenshots and F12 to make steam screenshots. eu4 screenshots are stored in "Documents/Paradox Interactive/Europa Universalis IV/Screenshots/".
If you use a tool which captures only part of the screen, I would recommend to capture the whole eu4 window, because partial screenshots are often missing information which would have helped experienced players better understand what is going on(in the case of fort rules for example the icon for the return province of the currently selected army). And to me partial screenshots give the impression that the person is trying to hide something

 

[Junuxx]

Kids these days, needing a snipping tool app when there's a perfectly fine PrintScr button on a regular keyboard. *shakes cane*

 

[TheMeInTeam]

If you look for help to get an explanation on how forts work post a screenshot and a description. Forts rules are like black magic but there is always some warlock on the forums who is able to explain you what happened.

If you think there is a bug, the bug section of the forums have instructions on how to report it.

1st paragraph - not true. More than once I've posted screenshots where it was impossible for players/devs to a) tell me where units selected were allowed to move or b) whether those rules would change if I were to stop said units. Mostly because you had to have known how I issued movement orders previously to discern which moves were legal.

2nd paragraph - there is > 5 yr bug report on move lock sometimes being equated to ZoC and resulting in same province or adjacent province stack wipes, even when no forts exist at all. Game still says "blocked by hostile fort". In one report I even showed a screenshot of an army banned from shift-queue moving to return to the province it was presently in.

In addition to the objectively bugged stuff ZoC is also broken by design, in that you can still merge swap to change movement rules and it's still impossible to determine where allied troops are allowed to move (depends on information you can't see). It is also still possible for troops on same province/side of war/battle to have different movements allowed, which demonstrates the poor design of ZoC in its present form.

 

[Blackwhitecavias]

Kids these days, needing a snipping tool app when there's a perfectly fine PrintScr button on a regular keyboard. *shakes cane*

I just prefer to leave out parts of the screen I consider as not necessary for the situation.

 

[Damedius]

They definitely are dumb the way they are designed. You shouldn't need some convoluted explanation for why they are WAD.

Sometimes the AI can ignore your forts.

You can get trapped by forts if you aren't careful. Sometimes it works on one army but not another. You can also have to leave the ZoC of the fort you sieged down in order to not be blocked by the ZoC that doesn't exist anymore. These last three tend to be caused when two forts are next to one another.

Having two forts side by side apparently disrupts the ZoC Continuum and all the rules tend to fall apart.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

^ Capturing a fort can reduce your movement options, and that is very unintuitive. Absent spoiler knowledge of how the hidden mechanics work, most reasonable people would not anticipate having fewer valid movement options after capturing a fort as opposed to having a for with a hostile garrison nearby.

 

[makaramus]

Sometimes the AI can ignore your forts.

sometimes I want to yell in face of everyone saying this "NO"
I agree with themeinteam rules are too stupid causing many confusion and problems that shouldnt be but stop saying "AI DOING SOMETING I CANT"
There are no rules special to AI
Problem is AI is programmed to see every path. AI doesnt play the game on screen you are playing . They play in a perfect perspective that very easy for them to understand pathing. So when they see a path that is available only for 1 moment that is you are not able to see why they can instantly take it if its worth it. After that moment unless they change their destination even if that path is now blocked you cant stop that because to save CPU movement when army is given command to move.
It can be stupid, it can be brutally hard to realize whats going on sometimes but its not "AI is cheating"
edit:About "cpu saving" part... you can do that too. If you ordered your army to walk throught a land that fort being built even after fort is finished your army will be able to pass it AS LONG AS you never click them to walk again

In short:AI cant ignore forts. Instead AI follows rules so perfectly it can see paths that players are unable to understand