Barrel exploits - fixed?

[unmerged(22680)]

I think I may have found a fix for the notoriously non-working 'Barrel Exploits' that should give an anti-entrenchment bonus but don't:

Change (in db/tech/army_inventions.txt):

command = { type = barrel_exploits value = 30 }

to

command = { type = barrel_exploits which = barrel value = 30 }

And I believe this does give barrel divisions and anti-entrenchment bonus. Could somebody please confirm this?

 

[unmerged(5205)]

As veteran of a Vicky player that I am, I still don't even know what the barrel exploit is

 

[Jerzy_I]

As veteran of a Vicky player that I am, I still don't even know what the barrel exploit is

Divisions with tanks(barrels) attached are supposed to get an antientrenchment bonus ....ie against entrenched foes they reduce entrenchment by 30.

This has yet to be fixed in any of the patches...have to try this fix when i get home.

 

[Darkrenown]

I think I may have found a fix for the notoriously non-working 'Barrel Exploits' that should give an anti-entrenchment bonus but don't:

Change (in db/tech/army_inventions.txt):


to


And I believe this does give barrel divisions and anti-entrenchment bonus. Could somebody please confirm this?

Cool. I can't test it right now, but if this works I would not be too surprised if this works. Aprof was very happy with me when I discovered the add division when = province id really only worked if you had "where" instead of "when" just before we released VIP 0.3.

If no one has tested by tomorrow I'll do it then.

 

[unmerged(5205)]

Divisions with tanks(barrels) attached are supposed to get an antientrenchment bonus ....ie against entrenched foes they reduce entrenchment by 30.

This has yet to be fixed in any of the patches...have to try this fix when i get home.

I knew it had something to do with tanks... I hope that works cuz that sounds like a pretty big bug

 

[unmerged(23487)]

I hope that is a fix.

 

[unmerged(5205)]

I hope that is a fix.

I would test it but I'm busy with HOI and EU2 right now

 

[Jerzy_I]

Nope tried it no difference.

 

[Lotus Lo]

so... since tank exploit doesn't work, does that mean the similar infantry exploit also doesn't work?

 

[cymruwarrior]

So is there any point in building tank/barrel divisions?

 

[unmerged(5205)]

So is there any point in building tank/barrel divisions?

I think they still provide a much larger shock value

 

[cymruwarrior]

Better than artillery? At the moment they just seem like super expensive artillery.

 

[unmerged(5205)]

Better than artillery? At the moment they just seem like super expensive artillery.

Probably not better than artillery, which is why I don't build tank brigades but lots of artillery brigades

 

[Lotus Lo]

art is for fire
tank/cav is for shock

 

[OriginalRafiki]

http://victoria.nsen.ch/wiki/index.php/Unit_Overview should answer all your unit-stat questions.

so... since tank exploit doesn't work, does that mean the similar infantry exploit also doesn't work?

Indeed, which to me suggests that it is combat-calculation part that doesn't work, not that there's a problem with the use of event-commands (but I still hope that it's the latter, tho')

Rafiki

 

[kionas76]

If this command works then it should be made twice because there are 2 inventions giving the 30 barrel bonus for tanks and 1 for infantry so keep it in mind in case somebody tests it.

 

[HMS Enterprize]

This may sound like a stupid question, but how is shock actually used in the game?

At the mo I usually charge cav into a province, into the rear of an already engaged enemy thinking this will 'shock' them. Am using shock units right? or should I just wade in with them like infantry?

 

[unmerged(23487)]

Shock damages the enemy morale instead of the actual numbers.

 

[unmerged(10564)]

What about speed? Aren't tanks faster than artillery? That's why I use them! Early Blitzkrieg!!!

 

[OriginalRafiki]

Units with tanks in Vicky are slower than the same units with artillery...

Rafiki