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Well, I suppose I could live without the Crusader trait, but I would certainly prefer it, if only for the extra piety. Could I perhaps not have that infinite crusade bonus for the crusader trait? This would solve your worries, but I would be able to crusade extra if, for some reason, I gain the crusader trait in-game. Also, I would agree on 1 crusade/5 years.
I am not sure what you mean with this. Do you suggest we should change the traits too?Sterkarm said:
Like Patrucio said, I do not think Crusader should be available before the crusades start. Take zealot and wait for the crusades, zealot will give a piety-bonus too
The scenario has now been updated with the help of the modding community Czersk now is personal property of the Duke of Masovia, no other changes to the previous version (but this adds two new files to the scenario-folder, only the provinces.inc are used of the 1066 files anymore).
Czersk now is personal property of the Duke of Masovia, no other changes to the previous version (but this adds two new files to the scenario-folder, only the provinces.inc are used of the 1066 files anymore).
I tried to ICQ you already, but seems you are busy at the momentBlei said:
I believe we were aiming for a "Polish focus". Poland has four duchies, so as such we don't have room. Still, even though we are four pretty deticated players (I know I am, and I believe the other three are too), sometimes crap just happens.
So I for one would be quite happy to see you around Sunday morning at 0500 GMT in V-Net channel Crusaders in case one of us don't make it for some unknown reason (net problems, domestic problems, sleep problems (it is pretty early for me and pretty late for those on the other side of the pond).
However, I do believe there could be another game going on with this same "formula". For example tonight (European time) would be ok for me. We'd need three players however, so one more and we could launch the game. I've got the hang of the edits now, so I guess I could make the necessary character edits pretty fast.
Well, I don't recall off-hand how large the King's domain is, but one possibility if we wanted to make room for one or two more person would be to have no Polish King at the beginning of the game and instead carve his domain into another duchy or two. All being Piasts, we could design the senario by assuming that we were all decendants of one of the previous kings and that there was a contentious succession.
Of course, I'm not doing the modding, so it's easy for me to throw out suggestions like that.
Of course, I'm not doing the modding, so it's easy for me to throw out suggestions like that.
So, apparently we want a rule where we're not allowed to marry our children to each other. There is a bug that could make the game rather..uh...interresting if we insist on marrying our daughters to each other's heirs....
Yes, I read that, Patrucio. The demesne goes to the player's character if he marries a player's daughter. I'd be interested in that game, btw.
On the Crusader trait, I simply mean that I still follow the crusade restrictions (1 crusade/5 years), but I'd just have the trait for the piety bonus.
On the Crusader trait, I simply mean that I still follow the crusade restrictions (1 crusade/5 years), but I'd just have the trait for the piety bonus.
How long the session will take?? I mean, here in Brazil 5:00am GMT means 1:00am, I think i can play until 3:30-4:00am in Brazil's time. And, of course there will be Saturday nights that we will go out, so I suggest that everyone tries to get an "official sub" for this game.
Well, off-hand saying I think it wouldn't be too hard to edit. Just edit the provinces of the polish dukes so that they are not vassals of the King, and then make the King a Duke.Patrucio said:Well, I don't recall off-hand how large the King's domain is, but one possibility if we wanted to make room for one or two more person would be to have no Polish King at the beginning of the game and instead carve his domain into another duchy or two. All being Piasts, we could design the senario by assuming that we were all decendants of one of the previous kings and that there was a contentious succession.
Of course, I'm not doing the modding, so it's easy for me to throw out suggestions like that.
But, Casluerj already brought up the time. It's going to get late for him, while for Blei it would be pretty damn early. Maybe they two should pool their efforts
As for the Crusader-trait, I still think it is out of bonds until a crusade has happened.
We'd have to split it up into two duchies at least. Or, we could make one duchy out of it (three provs) and then give the other two to Mazovia and Krakow, because, at the moment both those duchies have two provinces, while the other two have three (Wielkopolska has two and a vassal). The problem of this is that it changes everything. We'll no longer be under one king, and we won't bow to a liege much more powerful than us. Lieges usually limit growth, by taking over sieges from their vassals. Maybe we should just add a duchy to Poland, maybe Gallich or Polotsk (but of course change them and the provinces they own to Polish Catholic). If we do split the provinces, we could give a few other provinces to the King of Poland, such as the northern Hungarian ones.
Jarkko Suvinen said:Well, off-hand saying I think it wouldn't be too hard to edit. Just edit the provinces of the polish dukes so that they are not vassals of the King, and then make the King a Duke.
But, Casluerj already brought up the time. It's going to get late for him, while for Blei it would be pretty damn early. Maybe they two should pool their efforts
As for the Crusader-trait, I still think it is out of bonds until a crusade has happened.
Fine, I'll take Brilliant Strategist, Valorous, and whichever trait gives the greatest chance to gain the crusader trait (zealous, right?).
Ok, I'll make the edit once I get home. Zealot alone is a possible requirement for Crusader, but if you want to double your chance to get Crusader you should also choose a deformation, such as harelip, clubfoot or some suchSterkarm said:
Btw, last night I played for a session without pausing. Holy crap it was hectic, 20 years passed before I did have time to watch the clock. Probably we should run on below normal at the start at least, else we won't have much diplomacy going between the players
I don't ever play my "no pause" games at faster than normal speed. Having our official game speed at one notch below normal might be a good idea, particularly if people aren't use to the no pause approach.
Oh, I am used at it with EU2, but somehow because it is already in the backbone it doesn't feel so hectic as my test with CKPatrucio said:
I discussed with PeterE (he has some ecperience in CK MP with up to 8 people) and he suggested all CK MP-games should start with an initial pause of a couple of minutes. OTOH, none of us has initially more than one member in the court in addition to the Duke, so perhaps it won't be that necessary.
Anyway, I suggest we start with Below Average, and once we get underway it can be brought up. I'll put autosave on every 10 months in case I'll crash (not happened so far, but of course it will happen at some point...), else I'll only save when/if a client crashes (the game stalls for everybody when saving) and we need to rehost (or eventually call it for the day).
Anyway, I suggest we start with Below Average, and once we get underway it can be brought up. I'll put autosave on every 10 months in case I'll crash (not happened so far, but of course it will happen at some point...), else I'll only save when/if a client crashes (the game stalls for everybody when saving) and we need to rehost (or eventually call it for the day).
12 hours and 15 minutes till the start of the session. I think I'll watch "Master and Commander" (again, the movie is good and the sounds are simply mind-blowing (note -to-self: remember to take the small items down from the shelves this time...) and then get a good nights sleep to be waky-waky early in the morning
I fired up the file just a few minutes ago, and found a problem in the Poland_characters.inc file. The Duke of Krakow has the trait "zealot". Unfortunately, that trait does not exist.
I changed my own personal file to the correct trait (zealous). Other files should be changed as well.
I changed my own personal file to the correct trait (zealous). Other files should be changed as well.