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pjrap said:
Only 18 div. You will not defend your boarder its toooooo long.

Man build mil and FAST as many as you can.

Finns has more div then you. Stupid industilization. Dam man playing as Lithunia-Latvia-Estonia seperated i managed to bring 24 div. As i said stupid industrilization.

Whats the terran? As I know there are forests in your provinces. MAKE A DEFENCE PLAN for crist sakes

Don't panic, I'm sure he'll handle it the best he can
 

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I don't envy you this task. I hope your mods to the Winter War events work and you are able to hold the Russians off.

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Just read through the whole AAR so far. Great Stuff and this twist with the winter war really makes me curious about how well you'll do!
I'm waiting for an Update, hopefully soon!
 
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How can I not panic??? When litlle Baltic states finaly have a chance to surrvive by joinling up together and now their situation is even worser then when they are seperated (less div)...

WHY WHY does it has to fall. Stupid industilization. If you werent building thouse dam factorys your army would be +30 div easy.

BTW NO FORTS IN old boarfer with Poland!. Ruskys will beak trough here. Grondo will be attaked from 4 FLANKS! Wilnow from 3! You will lose thouse provinces for sure. Well you can retreat to Kaunas and Alytus but when Jakapils will fall (NO FORTS) your IN A BIG TRUBLE. 2 of your IC centers Kaunas and Riga are undefended well enough.

I dont know I just dont know. Many Swedes your send you few div of their own to support your defences and like Norway and Denmark send matterials and volonties + few div. Only then you will be able to surrvive.

Finnland managed to hold of Ruskies only because of their easy to defend possitions and Baltijas republic doesnt have that. Only hopes are full speed militial build up + Sweden expeditionary forces 6 div at least (I think they should be shiped to Memel and Riga 3 each.) + volontiers from Denmark and Norway +2 div. one from Norway one from Denmark. +2000 supplys (matterial aid) minus manpower and supplys from thouse donor coutrys.

Maby im ofering to much? :confused: This is Von Ubers AAR anyway
 

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IMHO due to the AI inability Von Uber SHOULD take military control of his allies.


Swedish help to both finns (smaller) and Baltic republika (larger) perhaps 6 divisions to baltics and 3 to finland, rest left to swedish defence for reality issues. Do the swedes have transports? 6 Divs shoudl help, especially when winter comes (right around the corner). Sweden should be loaded with winter specialists too. Utilize the low soviet GDE for counterattacks.

Defensive chief of staff ro chief or chief of army, I forget which, should help too.

Btw, the combined swedish and Finnish navies, together with baltic U-boats ought to have a chance at defeating the russian baltic fleet. The swedes also have some naval bombers, most useful. Perhaps, if you're lucky, they'll have some CAS or Tac bombers too.


Oh well, it's going to be interesting.
 

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pjrap said:
...Insert two posts here...

The Industriliastion is important: 1 more Tech team, able to build more and supply more. Still, each to their own I guess :) A lot of Finnish divisions are not at my Tech and so are not worth the same as mine. And there is a plan :p
Regarding forts etc, I believed it would've been gamey to build them bordering Poland. How would we have known that that part of Poland would've gone to the USSR after a pact between them and the Nazis? :confused:


String said:
Oh, btw, could you host this scenario (or savegame) somewhere so others(me :D ) could enjoy it too? ;)

Yes I could - eventually. Problem is, a lot of events for the ai just 'exist', i.e no written text for the description. It would take time.. and the g/f is back from holiday on sat.. :eek:o Still, i'll see what I can do.

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IMHO due to the AI inability Von Uber SHOULD take military control of his allies.

Yeah, maybe. I don't know.. I often don't like to do that, as I think it's all part of the game. Still, I may make an exception, I am not sure yet. And Soviet AI has no GDE penalties IIRC. Unless it's changed in Doomsday?
 
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The People has spoken. And their decition 6 Sweden exp forces to Baltic republic :D Maby after Soviet pushs into Grondo and Wilnow provinces. Then Sweden decides that witout their help Baltic rep will not surrvive and sends 6 inf divisino + also asks for help from Denmark and Norway for volontiers and matterial aid.

6 inf from Sweden 3 of them goes to streanten your posstions in Latvia and 3 in Lithuna after Soviet offensive Kaunas+ 2 volontiers from Denmark and Norway. Hmm Sweden has no HQ that would be WERY usful wery. Finns has a HQ.

Maby you should make an even that along with thouse volontier div from Denmark and Norway you should also reacive a HQ, but this unit is not from nordic countrys your generals have made it them selves at the begining of war .

Maby even a mobilisation even. But that would be a bit cheating.
 

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A mobolization event would not be cheating imo. The game does not simulate this at all. When in fact it took months to mobolize a nation to war readiness status. Calling up all the reserves and home gaurds and such.

I am not saying use the event to give yourself 15 new divisions, but something along the lines of 2 new infantry divisions, plus 2 militia would seem proper.
 

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Good luck! Beat those awfull commies back to the Urals! :D
 

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Von Uber said:
The Industriliastion is important: 1 more Tech team, able to build more and supply more. Still, each to their own I guess :) A lot of Finnish divisions are not at my Tech and so are not worth the same as mine. And there is a plan :p
Regarding forts etc, I believed it would've been gamey to build them bordering Poland. How would we have known that that part of Poland would've gone to the USSR after a pact between them and the Nazis? :confused:




Yes I could - eventually. Problem is, a lot of events for the ai just 'exist', i.e no written text for the description. It would take time.. and the g/f is back from holiday on sat.. :eek:o Still, i'll see what I can do.



Yeah, maybe. I don't know.. I often don't like to do that, as I think it's all part of the game. Still, I may make an exception, I am not sure yet. And Soviet AI has no GDE penalties IIRC. Unless it's changed in Doomsday?

Well, if the baltic events are with descriptions then I'd be okay with it. I don't give a damn about the other countries
 

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String said:
Well, if the baltic events are with descriptions then I'd be okay with it. I don't give a damn about the other countries

I'll see what i can do at some point. :) But don't expect it this week at all! Maybe once I've finished the AAR - I don't want to give anything away! :)

Re: a mobilisation event - Yeah, I agree, HOI2 doesn't reflect this. But any event I do for the BR ahould come with the manpower costs associated with it. That's reasonable. And only in dire straights should it occur, representing rabid mobilisation. I'll give it some thought. Hopefully you won't see it :)
 

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Holy rapid fire updates Batman!

How do you plan on splitting the spoils of war from Russia?
 

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Exterous said:
Holy rapid fire updates Batman!

How do you plan on splitting the spoils of war from Russia?

:rofl: I wish! I don't have your skill! :(

Edzako said:
So you will take military control over Sweden ? Or just make a event that gives you 6 free divisions.

No, instead I am working on an event which means for any loss of territory, a draft 2 divisions are created,representing the calling up of the reserve. Of course, I'll try and not let this happen: as a 'turn off' from deliberately losing a province, I'll make the cost more MP and some $.

EDIT: Update will be a while yet, I have an event problem. The Soviets keep surrendering to me (a 'good' event victory) even thougha shot hasn't been fired :wacko: I can't see why, it worked before! Ah well, time to stare at wordpad for an evening :(
 
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I knew you shouldn't have done all that industrialization. It takes 1500/IC days (assuming about 300 days per factory) which means it takes around 4 years to pay that off, but the problem is/was, you needed stuff in sooner than 3 years (assuming 1 year for building 1st IC).
 
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Hes playing DD. That means the game is till 1953 that meants 14 more game years:) So if you look from this perspective IC buildup is very reasonable thing.

Mobilisation even should bring you 2 inf division (reserve) and 3 mil volontiers.

Dont make even of thuose 6 exp Sweden inf div teleported to your army. They shuold be Sweden forces under your controle shiped to you not Baltic ones. Just take mill controle. Ship them to Memel and Riga then reload as Sweden and send then as exp forces to Baltic republic. This isnt cheating. Its just that you cant ask from your Allie AI mil support if your in a desperate situation. Ou and dont forget 2 inf divisions of volontiers from Denmark and Norway. Wich should be called off when Germany invades them.

This support from Sweden and volontiers from Denmark and Norway shouldn't come at first days of the war. This stuf takes time. 1-2 weeks at least.

Whats your naval stat? How many TP you have?

Any SU stat you have. That spy stuf. It shows that this nation has at least bla bla.