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Ha, well the ex-british colonies will turn out far differently... as for if they'll eventually spread freedom to the world in HOI4, we'll see XD



That would certainly be ideal, although the situation in Europe is still volatile.
How would you convert this to Vic2?Perhaps,Kiev will be converted as Ukraine\Ruthenia,and Liivimaa as Livonia?After all,Jewish Anglo-Andalusian USA will be the weirdest thing in this timeline's North America...
 
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How would you convert this to Vic2?Perhaps,Kiev will be converted as Ukraine\Ruthenia,and Liivimaa as Livonia?After all,Jewish Anglo-Andalusian USA will be the weirdest thing in this timeline's North America...

The converter can transfer custom and CK2 nations into Vic2, it doesn't have to be a pre-existing tag. Based on preliminary tests, i'm going to have to do modifications to some things like accepted cultures/literacy, as well as make custom flags for a few nations, but overall it works pretty well.


[Also, the only Jewish population in America is the small colonies Livonia has in northern canada/guyana - most of it is catholic, sunni (if they haven't been converted yet), and Jain/Confucian in the Asian colonies.]
 
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Chapter 23: Global Transitions (1774-1782)



The revolutionaries in Aquitaine were ecstatic, to put it lightly. These huge gains helped the government entrench itself and gain popularity. Ever since the revolutionary movement, the turmoil in the country continued as various factions tried to steer the country in different directions. Right now, the warring revanchist faction was in charge, especially after being legitimized by their recent victories, but there were also pacifist factions focused on economic life, and those focused on personal liberties and freedoms.

Regardless, the revanchists were in power, and even after all their victories they wanted more. They continually argued in favor of reclaiming their lands from Isbania, and even taking the rest of their historical claims from Brabant.

The result of the Germanic Wars was a huge shift in the European balance. Livonia’s buffer states ensured that the country would remain safe during any warfare (short of a complete disaster), and they now held considerable influence over the eastern half of the continent. Bavaria and Brabant, which had one held all the power in Europe, were now both contained, and Aquitaine had once again become one of the most powerful countries on the continent. Still, the situation was volatile and there would certainly be more bloodshed before things calmed down again.
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One other consequence of curtailing the Germanic Powers was the status of the remaining Central European states. Germany and Ferrara had traditionally been protected by both powers, but now they were left undefended. The same could be said for Halsingland, which had suffered at the hands of the Uyunids when Brabant was distracted. Genoa was also in a predicament, as they had traditionally been protected by Bavaria, but now were developing closer ties to the Revolutionaries after their last war.

Only months after the war ended, an army of Livonian-hired mercenaries seized the opportunity to invade Germany, since they weren’t under Germanic protection and occupied an excellent strategic position. The mercenary armies, supplemented by Livonian artillery, cavalry, and leadership, invaded the country while the Livonian armies fought against religious rebels and a massive peasant revolt taking place at home.

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Germany was crippled by revolutionaries who were attempting to overthrow their own government, so the Livonian invasion was nearly unopposed, taking only a few months. After seizing the country, Livonians returned the province of Liegnitz to Kuyavia (which had been in German control ever since Brabant invaded Livonia 100 years ago), and established the new state of Pomeranija, based on the Danish system of a Livonian-appointed parliament.

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Pomerania was a distant memory to most of Europe, but the old state had been one of the first Jewish countries on the continent and was once an ally to Livonia, before eventually collapsing during the German Civil War of the 1400’s. Indeed, the state of Germany itself was a strange relic of the past as well – it was descended from the old Kingdom of Germany which had owned the entirety of Central Europe, and yet now was simply a puppet of Bavaria and Brabant, two states which had rebelled from the original Kingdom. Even the successor state of Germany was initially Jewish, before the Jews were expelled or converted out of Germany towards the end of the civil war.

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Internally in Livonia, the liberal agitation that was crippling most European countries following the Aquitanean Revolution was also present, but it was far less radical given the country’s recent democratic reforms. In order to appease the liberalists further, the Queen added to the constitution, formalizing the separation of powers between the Monarchy and the Parliament. In practice, this granted the Parliament more control over provincial matters, while the Monarch would be in charge of countrywide administration.

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Livonia’s buffer states of Kiev and Kuyavia had also been demanding more autonomy, especially given the differences between their rule and that of Danija and Pomeranija. They were still under the same administrative system that had been established hundreds of years ago, but now their strategic relationship to Livonia had changed and the old system was unnecessary. Livonia agreed to give them full economic autonomy, most notably in regards to trade, as it was more important now for the states to have the funds to fortify and develop themselves than it was for them to support Livonia.

Meanwhile over in North America, the English rebel colonies entered their 4th year of war, but England was unable to successfully invade. Talakad Meksiko had attempted to grab land during the chaos, but was now being pushed back.

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China, by the 1770s, was split between the Xi and Yan dynasties. The states of Lan Na and Dai Viet had grown quite a bit during the turmoil, but it looked as if China wasn’t far from being reunited.

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In 1777, the English colonies finally gained full independence, forming three countries: The United States of America, Canada, and Michigan (which had expanded south following the failed Talakad invasion). The USA’s government was based on a democratic system similar to Aquitaine’s (albeit less radical), while Canada and Michigan were ruled by Constitutional Monarchies under the Grey dynasty, in a similar form to Livonia and England.

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That same year, Ferrara’s South American colonies became independent. Now, the only remaining foreign colonies on the continent were Aquitanean Colombie, Talakad Meksiko, Isbani Canada, and the smaller Livonian territories.

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Aquitaine’s invasion of Mexico hadn’t gone well – they had managed to recapture their territory after a mainland army was shipped over, but their own colony was devastated, and rebellions were widespread. In the end, they agreed to recognize Mexico’s independence, asking only for the return of a small chunk of land in Panama to Colombie.

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In 1778, Livonian soldiers were sent to the African colony to deal with a potential native revolt. A few months later, they were shipped to Colombie, which was currently crippled by no less than 5 rebel movements, including Italians, Natives, Haitians, and an independence movement. Along with Aquitaine’s army, the Livonians spent the next several months hunting down all of the rebellions and recapturing Colombie’s territory.

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By the early 1780’s, Livonian forces were still recovering from the huge losses during the last war. Rebellions in the land Kiev and Kuyavia had acquired also kept the army distracted, although there weren’t many non-rebel casualties in the fighting. On the other side of the mountains, Bavaria had taken most of Bulgaria’s remaining land a few years ago.

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In a reaction to the threat of Revolutionary invasion, Isbania formed an alliance with Bavaria to mutually defend each other in the case of invasion. This would make it far more difficult for Aquitaine to invade, although their alliance with Livonia ensured that invading them would be just as difficult.
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In the meantime, Aquitaine was still busy – there hadn’t been more than a year of peace for the country since the revolution. The breakaway Zaya colony in South Africa was invaded and subjugated by Aquitaine in 1781.

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All of the major warring powers from the Germanic wars were still recovering, but Aquitaine was at full strength. Given the nationalist fervor their government relied on, it seemed likely they would attack one of their neighbors soon - but the important questions were "who, and when?"
 
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The converter can transfer custom and CK2 nations into Vic2, it doesn't have to be a pre-existing tag. Based on preliminary tests, i'm going to have to do modifications to some things like accepted cultures/literacy, as well as make custom flags for a few nations, but overall it works pretty well.


[Also, the only Jewish population in America is the small colonies Livonia has in northern canada/guyana - most of it is catholic, sunni (if they haven't been converted yet), and Jain/Confucian in the Asian colonies.]
What is overall religious situation as of the 1782?Who have more believers - Sunni,Christian Church or Kohen Gadol of Liivimaa?
P.S.:In narrative,will you adapt OTL Russian personalities as Mordvin and OTL Ukrainian as Russian?Cause OTL Mordvin culture is still unknown to most outside of it's autonomous republic.
 
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What is overall religious situation as of the 1782?Who have more believers - Sunni,Christian Church or Kohen Gadol of Liivimaa?
P.S.:In narrative,will you adapt OTL Russian personalities as Mordvin and OTL Ukrainian as Russian?Cause OTL Mordvin culture is still unknown to most outside of it's autonomous republic.

As of 1766:
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Most of the European population is still catholic, although there's a sizable Sunni population in the south. Judaism mainly only exists in Livonia and its subjects at this point - it was exterminated from the northern half of Germany in the 1400's.

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Sunni in general is by far the largest religion in the world - it expands farther into the steppes, as well as in Persia and northern India [the sunni-shia conflict ended back during the crusades]. Asia is more-or-less normal, although there were two independent Jewish states in Asia at the time of this screenshot before they were promptly invaded.

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India's split between the Jain state of Talakad [and their vassal] and the disconnected northern Hindu states. Indonesia is mostly Sunni after the failed Indian colonists were evicted, although Jain is still present in the independent Australian country.

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North America's mostly Catholic; the countries with non-catholic religions are declining in general, so expect a lot more yellow over the coming decades. South America is almost completely catholic except for Jewish Guyana and a few natives that haven't been converted yet.



As for OTL personalities, I'm not sure if you mean specific people or culture in general.
 
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As of 1766:
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Most of the European population is still catholic, although there's a sizable Sunni population in the south. Judaism mainly only exists in Livonia and its subjects at this point - it was exterminated from the northern half of Germany in the 1400's.

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Sunni in general is by far the largest religion in the world - it expands farther into the steppes, as well as in Persia and northern India [the sunni-shia conflict ended back during the crusades]. Asia is more-or-less normal, although there were two independent Jewish states in Asia at the time of this screenshot before they were promptly invaded.

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India's split between the Jain state of Talakad [and their vassal] and the disconnected northern Hindu states. Indonesia is mostly Sunni after the failed Indian colonists were evicted, although Jain is still present in the independent Australian country.

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North America's mostly Catholic; the countries with non-catholic religions are declining in general, so expect a lot more yellow over the coming decades. South America is almost completely catholic except for Jewish Guyana and a few natives that haven't been converted yet.



As for OTL personalities, I'm not sure if you mean specific people or culture in general.
And who holds the Steppe?Karenia ,Uyunids or other Sunni state?
P.S.:I mean people.
 
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And who holds the Steppe?Karenia ,Uyunids or other Sunni state?
P.S.:I mean people.

The central steppes are almost entirely owned by Karenia, Uyunids have the eastern bit though.

As for people, I'm usually not a fan of alternate histories using OTL people, unless it's a short period [like using WW2 personalities in Kaiserreich]. In a world like this where things have changed so much, it would be completely unlikely that Stalin, for example, would be born and be the same.

There will still be personalities of course, although most of them already have been done such as the earlier livonian Kings, as well as everybody in CK2 since it's a character-driven game. There might be a bit of that in Vic2, and probably a lot in HOI4.
 
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I am still itching for an Uyunid war. To be sure Bavaria and Brabant have been long-term threats, but nothing like the Uyunids. To see them humbled would be .... most satisfactory.
 
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I am still itching for an Uyunid war. To be sure Bavaria and Brabant have been long-term threats, but nothing like the Uyunids. To see them humbled would be .... most satisfactory.

Well, now that the other threats are contained, that's high on the priority list.

Appeasing the Revolutionary scum is a very bad idea.

you just hate freedom
 
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Chapter 24: Nationalism and Liberty (1782-1794)



In 1783, Livonia was in the middle of restructuring its army, staffing it with trained regulars and increasing its size, when it received a Call to Arms from Aquitaine. They had declared war on Brabant, in order to press the rest of their claims on the region – Bavaria came to their defense.

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The Livonians were reluctant to join, considering the army was still not in optimal condition, but they did anyways – Brabant and Bavaria’s armies were likely in the same state, while the Revolutionary Army was very large, attracting huge masses of volunteers and being placed under excellent leadership. Besides, Livonia had already committed to containing the two enemy countries, and this was a great opportunity to do so.

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The navies of Livonia and its client states instantly blockaded Brabant, whose navy was only a fraction of the size. The country’s sea trade was cut off, and its land routes were limited to the small Bavarian border.

The Baltic Armies were organizing along the border of Kuyavia, while one detachment was sent to Denmark to repel any potential Brabantian attack. The border with Bavaria was easily defensible for both sides, as direct invasion would require traversing the Carpathians. The first combat was at the Battle of Olmutz, which forced Bavaria to retreat but resulted in big casualties for Livonia.

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The Livonian advance continued while most of the fighting took place on the western front against Aquitaine. Brabant was in a weak strategic position, as their capital was now directly bordered by the Revolutionaries, although the region was fortified.

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Over the next two years, the advances continued. They were slow at first while both sides fought several battles, but the pace of advance was increasing now. Aquitaine had captured Brabant’s capital city, and the Livonians were quickly advancing past Bavaria’s obsolete fortifications, which were quickly captured by the army’s new engineer corps.

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Despite their gains, the Livonian front was fragile. The country’s manpower was already in deficit, and the armies couldn’t afford to keep fighting such large battles. This weakness was exploited at Landshut, where a Bavarian and Brabantian pincer attack crushed the Livonian invaders and forced them to retreat.

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Over on the Danish front, the armies fought back and forth, as Brabant lost and then recaptured their land in the region several times. The advance in the west was going well though, as the Aquitaneans pushed farther into the north, while also advancing along the Bavarian border.

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The Livonian armies had retreated home to reorganize as their gains were recaptured. Conscription helped to bolster the infantry corps, but the army would still need to avoid any large advances. The goal of this war, after all, was for Aquitaine to take land from Brabant, so it wasn’t necessary for any more Livonians to die attacking Bavaria.

Meanwhile, the Uyunids decided to invade Halsingland once again, presumably to take the rest of Finland. Livonia was becoming quite annoyed with these provocations, and the Uyunids would certainly have to be dealt with once the country had a chance to breathe.

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The Bavarians pushed back in the east, retaking all of the land Livonia had captured, but they didn’t continue their push past the border. Instead, most of the armies were moved to the western front, where half of Brabant was now occupied. Aquitaine had big troubles at home though – members of the anti-war faction rose up all around the country and attempted a coup to remove the Revanchists from power.

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In 1787, the war ended with Livonia and Aquitaine taking 300,000 casualties each, while the combined enemy casualties were just under 350,000. Part of the disproportion can be attributed to attrition, but the Livonian Parliament was upset by the toll the war took on their country.

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As a result of the war, Aquitaine had taken all of their historical land in the Low Countries, with the exception of Brabant’s capital region. They also made some gains along the border with Bavaria. While the casualties were just as bad, this war had ended far sooner than the Germanic Wars, only taking 5 years. The Revolutionary Army returned home, and promptly killed all of their rebels.

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The Livonian Parliament voted to end the alliance with Aquitaine once again after the war ended. The country was now very powerful, and could fend for themselves without Livonian blood being wasted. In addition, Brabant was now far too weak to threaten Livonia, and Bavaria couldn’t dare an invasion without being attacked by the rest of Europe.

During the war, the United States and Canada had invaded the Isbani colony, annexing all of their territory along the east coast.

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Bavaria, weakened but by no means crippled, invaded the country of Ferrara, hoping to connect their South Italian possessions to the mainland.

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Halsingland had been completely crushed by the Uyunids. Shockingly, the Uyunids took not only the remainder of Finland, but the majority of Scandinavia. They were certainly overextended, as there was no way a nation led from the Caucasus could possibly administer or defend the Swedish coasts properly. Clearly, Livonia needed to pivot their focus away from mainland Europe to deal with this.

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After 5 years of recovery, Livonia began to fight their own battles again, uninhibited by European power struggles. Minister of War Erdzivil Virumaa had won the Queen over with his “Ziemeļu stratēģija” – a plan to make the entirety of Scandinavia a Livonian asset, while also ending the centuries of separatism and rebellion that hampered Livonian rule over the region. Under his plan, both the Uyunids and Halsingland would be removed from Scandinavia, and the Livonian-occupied land would be placed under a new centralized administration.

The first step was to conquer the remains of Halsingland, which was achieved by the army in 4 months. The land was placed under the new government of Norvegija, named after the historical country of Norway which had once evicted the Kingdom of Germany out of Scandinavia and united the entire region under a single King. This move, widely publicized throughout the country, was meant to excite Scandinavian nationalists into working with the Livonian government in exchange for autonomy, rather than fighting against it.

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Next, the Livonians decided to intervene in Germany, partitioning the country between its two North German client states. This was done with almost no bloodshed (save for a few isolated incidents), as the German King agreed to step down in order to save his people from destruction.

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The Livonian system of propping up allied countries along ethnic lines had proven to be quite successful – Kuyavia, Pomeranija, and Danija were all prosperous states which were loyal to the Crown. Kiev, on the other hand, had much more difficulty uniting its diverse people, and was less prosperous in general, but still served as an important frontier against the Uyunids and attracted many Mordvin Jews after they had been evicted from their country when the Uyunids invaded. Hopefully, this new Norway would also be able to unite and remain loyal to the Livonian crown.

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Seems a good time to drop the alliance and pivot eastward. A bold vision there with the plans for the future.
 
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It's always interesting to see just how much more solid Europe is from a grand campaign than from our own history. Although Brabant really does have ugly westerly and southern borders -- you should consider fixing that for my eyes and your eyes! :p
 
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Chapter 25: Pulled Back (1794-1804)



Livonia was preparing to invade the Uyunids and kick them out of Scandinavia – the invasion was delayed a few years in order to stockpile equipment and train men, as invading such a large and sparse territory had historically taken a big toll on the armies.

Aquitaine had been relatively calm as far as the outside world was concerned since their victory of 1787 – in reality, the armies had been distracted by the attempted coup and suppressing revolts in their new land. In 1794, their armies were mobilized though as the demands for revenge continued – the last target of Aquitaine was Isbania, who held the Basque and Catalan regions which had once been Aquitanean.

As a result of their invasion, the revolutionaries entered war with Isbania, Genoa, and Bavaria. The only ally Aquitaine had was Misr, which hoped to expand farther along the coast of North Africa.

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The Livonians, given room to breathe, began a mass recruitment drive to fully rebuild the army, which only now had a chance to truly recover after the last two wars. The army had a disproportionate amount of riflemen at the moment, as large numbers of conscripts were used in the previous war to fill the manpower deficit, but now more well-trained soldiers as well as cavalry and artillerymen filled the ranks of Livonia’s army.

Two years later, the Livonian armies were at full strength again, and more powerful than ever before. The Uyunid invasion was still delayed, as Livonia needed more time to bolster the reserves that would be necessary for such a war.

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Unfortunately, the army’s caution backfired. Taking advantage of the war in the west, Al-Turkis wanted to invade Bavaria and push them out of the Balkans. The Livonian diplomats were furious, but Al-Turkis had been a crucial ally, equally responsible for the Eastern victories during the Germanic Wars. In the end, it was agreed that Livonia would join, on the condition that Kuyavia be given Bavarian territory at the end of the war.

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Livonia had been traditionally isolationist before forming their web of alliances to deal with Brabant and Bavaria – the majority of Livonians wished to return to such a policy, but it seemed there would be one final war against Bavaria before that could be achieved. The Uyunids were at least prohibited from expanding anymore, so the invasion could be delayed without too much worry of them growing stronger. The country had committed to the goal of curtailing Bavarian influence, and now it would have to see that goal through to the end. Brabant had also agreed to join this war, despite sitting out in the defense of Isbania.

Unlike the last war, which had taken a disorganized Livonian army by surprise, this one was tipped in favor of the Eastern powers. The addition of Pomeranija to the eastern sphere gave the Livonian armies a big strategic advantage, as they now had a path of invasion straight towards Bavaria’s capital without having to attack through mountainous terrain.

The Livonians began their attack from the northwest, while Danija’s army advanced beyond their border into Brabant and Al-Turkis invaded the Balkans.

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The advance was very quick – the fully-equipped Livonian armies took advantage of the fact that Bavaria’s armies were distracted on two other fronts to plough through their unfortified northern border. A few Bavarian armies were pulled from the western front to stop the attack, but weren’t nearly large enough to do so. Within a year, the front had advanced all the way to Munich, with the help of a Turkish detachment. Unfortunately, Aquitaine’s war had already ended in a white peace by this point – their war against Isbania had become a massive stalemate, and they were facing even more rebels at home.

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After capturing the Munich region, the Livonian armies split, with the majority of them moving north to sweep through Brabant while the remainder defended the southern mountains. The enemys’ territory was now split in two.

Three years into the war, Bavarian casualties were far greater than those of Livonia – the military leadership reforms of the last two decades meant that a new generation of talented commanders was in charge of the armies, which consistently outmaneuvered Bavaria’s. The fighting was constant throughout the advances, but the majority of battles resulted in Baltic victory.

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The invasion into Brabant was largely successful, and the capital fell in January of 1800. The Bavarians had managed to recapture Munich in the meantime after a strong counterattack along the entire southern front.

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In the meantime, Queen Agita had finally died, leaving the throne to her son Kantibutas. Her hands-off rule had resulted in greater autonomy for both the Livonian armies and the country’s vassals, and thanks to the constitutional changes, the new King would have less direct power than his predecessors. At the moment, this seemed to be working well for the country, but it’s possible the arrangement could fail under different leadership.

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By the end of 1800, Brabant had agreed to exit the war with reparation payments, and the Livonian forces had retaken Munich. The Turkish push was going very well too, so the Livonians halted their advance, as they had already contributed enough to the war.

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King Kantibutas died in November after only 8 months of rather incompetent rule, shifting Livonian leadership once again to his younger brother, Klavess.

By March of 1801, both attacking powers had achieved their goals in the war. Klavess and his diplomats spent the last two weeks of the war in Constantinople negotiating what demands should be sent to the Bavarians – Klavess was a much more aggressive ruler than the Queen had been, and it showed during these negotiations with his ally.

This time, the Livonian casualties had actually been less than those of the previous war, despite the longer campaign and occupations. Much of this success can be attributed to the speed of the Livonian advance and the favorable terrain compared to last time, as well as the now well-organized armies.

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Despite the majority of Livonia being opposed to this war in the first place, the victory was certainly beneficial to the country – Kuyavia expanded along almost the entire border with Bavaria, placing a large amount of population under their rule (and out of Bavaria’s), and further increasing the strategic position it held against its enemy. Pomeranija was also given a small amount of claimed land.

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Al-Turkis also made gains, this being their war, but their claims weren’t too extreme and they didn’t expand beyond them. Bulgaria was also returned some of its land, although the zealous nation still refused Sunni influence and did not ally with Al-Turkis.

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The Livonian losses in the war had not been as bad as expected, and a portion of the army staff insisted that after a few years of preparation the planned Uyunid invasion could continue. The country hoped to stop warring with Bavaria and Brabant going forwards, as Livonia was satisfied with its position within Europe, and the economy had been stagnating ever since The Constitution, as far more state finances were spent on the military than had been spent on development and infrastructure compared to beforehand.

Meanwhile in America, Canada had conquered the majority of Isbania’s remaining colony, and Michigan was now in the process of invading Jiazhou. The Talakad colony in Mexico had been completely destroyed, and the majority of its land now belonged to the formerly-Aquitanean nation.

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In Asia, both Karenia and Persia were shrinking. The Indians had successfully pushed the two countries off the subcontinent, and Karenia had lost territory in the East to separatist rebels. Persia had also been forced to grant autonomy to the nation of Karakum, although the two remained allied. Also, the Xi dynasty had successfully united all of China, nearly 100 years after the collapse of the Ming Dynasty.

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In 1804, the country of Zaya was expanded past one small province after Isbania fought to push the Mali Confederation out of North Africa. The Mali had been very loosely aligned, but primarily consisted of disconnected tribes. The central power of the King was already weak, but now it was being usurped as the coastal tribes grew far more powerful than the inland ones, thanks to European trade.

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It had now been three years of peace for Livonia at this point, as they prepared once again to push the Uyunid back and finish the Ziemeļu Stratēģija. The Scandinavians had been the most opposed to the last war, which made sense given the extensive promises that were being made – it was important to strike soon, or else the plan of a friendly Scandinavia might become impossible.
 
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Typical that Livonia gets dragged into a Bavarian war just as they were ready to deal with the Uyunids.

Hopefully lightning does not strike twice
 
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Typical that Livonia gets dragged into a Bavarian war just as they were ready to deal with the Uyunids.

Hopefully lightning does not strike twice

Right? Everyone wants a piece of the pie, I guess.

Aquitaine is one big lightning rod, at the moment, so at least there's that.
 
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As a native of Ohio, I must say I disapprove of that gigantic Michigan hogging all the glory of the American Midwest! :p
 
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