Baltic Countries (Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia)

[ZyZla]

Baltic Countries (Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia)

Is there some kind of event/research to form an alliance and joint army as it was a possibility but fallen apart as no decision who will lead was reached. This could form a decent army and do something in the game.

Does Lithuania have an airforce fleet as they had one of the most modern fighters at that time with full radio communications while Russians still used flags. I was sold to UK just before war started.

I would love to see SWITCH broadcast playing one of the Baltic countries if he could survive and do something with those

 

[Le Creep]

You could create a faction with the other baltic countries as well as nordic countries. All nations with the generic national focus tree should be able to do so. As for events, I dont think so, atleast for release.

 

[kviiri]

Probably no event-alliance, but every country can found its own faction if it so likes.

 

[ZyZla]

You`ll probably be long gone before you`ll manage to research factions

 

[Le Creep]

Depends on how agressive the soviets are feeling I guess. I think if you beeline for it you should be able to found your faction in time.

 

[ZyZla]

So that`s the thing, that it should be a possibility from the start as historicity those talks existed they just didn`t manage to reach the decision who will lead in United Baltic Countries.

Plus it would be nice to know how about the Partisan resistance as it never stopped in Lithuania territory and inflicted decent loses though all times to USSR up till ~1960

 

[LordOfWar16]

You`ll probably be long gone before you`ll manage to research factions

Atleast in one of the inhouse dev multiplayers we know of the baltics were part of the northern lights faction with denmark, sweden, norway and finland.

So that`s the thing, that it should be a possibility from the start as historicity those talks existed they just didn`t manage to reach the decision who will lead in United Baltic Countries.

Plus it would be nice to know how about the Partisan resistance as it never stopped in Lithuania territory and inflicted decent loses though all times to USSR up till ~1960

That would be broken as hell, since basicly everyone would just create a faction right from the get go and it would be a total unbalanced mess.

There are no on-map partisans in the game. There is only a unrest value, which will rise over time and spread to neighboring states, damaging factories, infrastructure, limiting supply throughput and giving intel to your enemies. Unrest will stop once the states are annexed tho. Being part of a faction will protect you from instantly being annexed upon surrender of course. Until the faction leader surrenders you will stay occupied and wont be out of the game completly.

 

[pikgiss]

Was there some sort of event or a decision in hoi3 for that?

 

[Orlunu]

United Baltic Duchy / Grand Duchy of Livonia when?

 

[zyphial]

Meh, what's two minors? Conquer them, and suddenly the need for a "faction" dissolves!

 

[ZyZla]

Tha

Was there some sort of event or a decision in hoi3 for that?

t`s what I`m talking about, that I hope that there is such a decision... But on the other hand, I really doubt they`ll develop those countries at all...

 

[potski]

That would be broken as hell, since basicly everyone would just create a faction right from the get go and it would be a total unbalanced mess.

The AI on historic setting wouldn't. But a player could, and clearly most will create a new faction or join a faction they weren't historically in, if playing a minor. Hindsight tells us being neutral wasn't such a good idea for most countries, and if you want to "do a Sweden" and just sell other countries your steel for 10 years then it wouldn't be much fun

 

[vfmikey]

There's an option for them to become part of USSR.

 

[ZyZla]

There's an option for them to become part of USSR.

I disgrace that option... And if that is in so as form an United Baltic Federation or what ever it would be called should be an option...

 

[Shayson]

If unique focus trees are added for Baltic states I'm sure it won't be without a faction option, but as the base game sits they would have to do it through the generic focus tree that most countries get. That said, without a doubt you could make it to the faction focus by 1940, possibly without even totally beelining for it !

 

[Zhetone]

Even if you form a faction you're gone unless you're with a bigger power. I'd go for joining the USSR as satellites or joining the Germans, the other Baltic states won't do much for you. As it should be, considering you're crushed between the two biggest and baddest powers in Europe

 

[LordOfWar16]

There's an option for them to become part of USSR.

Its not a option for them at all. The two options for them were total destruction or surrender. It was a ultimatum just as the demand for Danzig after negotiations failed.

 

[LordOfWar16]

The AI on historic setting wouldn't. But a player could, and clearly most will create a new faction or join a faction they weren't historically in, if playing a minor. Hindsight tells us being neutral wasn't such a good idea for most countries, and if you want to "do a Sweden" and just sell other countries your steel for 10 years then it wouldn't be much fun

i was reffering to nations being able to create a faction on january 1. 1936, not in general. Every nation can gain the ability to create a faction via the national Focus tree, but it is not something you have from the start, unless you already are in a faction, since it would simply be broken if they got the ability from day 1.

 

[ZyZla]

Even if you form a faction you're gone unless you're with a bigger power. I'd go for joining the USSR as satellites or joining the Germans, the other Baltic states won't do much for you. As it should be, considering you're crushed between the two biggest and baddest powers in Europe

The original idea of getting united was to create one army (basically one country with 3 regions) and I believe getting early in the game you could aggressively expand to Poland having the claim on Vilnius region and go for the North.... It would make an option both for AI and Player to actually survive and do something. Plus having in mind Lithuania having really good and modern escadrille of fighters at that time (later bought by Britain) it could make a major difference... Plus after WWW1 beating Germany and Russian divisions forcing them to surrender claims and pay loads in equipment and money as war subsidies joining all those 3 nations could probably make a decent army force for a start.

But as we know this region is not developed, but I would still love to see the alternative history prevail and not get occupied for the rest of the century...

 

[Orlunu]

Couldn't make it in a single player game, but could be quite nice for one of the minors in a multi.