Balkans DLC?

[dayalu]

Should the Balkans get a expansion, immersion pack or be a patch?


I'm fine with other areas taking precedent, however as long as Silistra and Bessarbia are the most offensive provinces in the game I know it's time will come.
The minors alone wouldn't be much mechanics wise, The era of the game would permit more Ottoman flavor in my opinion; and if Hungary was included it definitely could be more then a patch. Love them or hate them Byzantium sells. Also Id hate to see the Caucasus forgotten, though they could fit into a steppe horde DLC, but if they were a patch we'd miss out on those sweet Georgia, and Trebizond units.

What are your thoughts? Expansion, immersion pack, or patch?

 

[Nuajan]

IMO, HRE, Italy and America should have a DLC, then the Balkans. This is my opinion.

 

[dayalu]

IMO, HRE, Italy and America should have a DLC, then the Balkans. This is my opinion.

I agree, however when the time comes and it will, should they get a expansion, immersion pack, or patch?

 

[Nuajan]

I agree, however when the time comes and it will, should they get a expansion, immersion pack, or patch?

Yes, I think they should have it, it's a region that has received little detail. And it would be good and with many possible events.

 

[makaramus]

balkans should have a patch not dlc... unless you are doing an update for ottomans(AGAIN?) wich I dont think it will come soon.
I mean what are they gonna do? "If you buy this dlc you will get access to bulgaria's new goverment form! WICH DIDNT EXIST IN EU4 TIMELINE! Same for byzantium you can now have special infintry units as byzantium that requires you to insult ottomans!"

 

[Nuajan]

Yes, I think they should have it, it's a region that has received little detail. And it would be good and with many possible events.

I was referring to a patch, obviously. It is not logical otherwise.

 

[dayalu]

balkans should have a patch not dlc... unless you are doing an update for ottomans(AGAIN?) wich I dont think it will come soon.
I mean what are they gonna do? "If you buy this dlc you will get access to bulgaria's new goverment form! WICH DIDNT EXIST IN EU4 TIMELINE! Same for byzantium you can now have special infintry units as byzantium that requires you to insult ottomans!"

I'd personally like Despotates and the Byzantine succession addressed. I would find it immersive if every other succession triggered a civil war. While Bulgaria is not in the timeline(excluding Lovech) Rugusa and Albania were quite interesting. Also if Hungary was included they had a eventful time. Possibly Genoese and Venetian colonies mechanics? And The knights defiantly worked different from others. Qara Qoyunlu got mechanics and unit models and they cease to exist in 1468; Also thank you for your input.

 

[StefanFan]

Iberia DLC > Italy DLC > HRE super DLC > Balkans DLC > Africa patch (given the period, just patch) then EU 5. I hope they don't take the Sims 4 approach to EU 5, giving a barebone game so they can sell DLCs with things that were previously in EU 4 DLCs. Sims 4 costs 2402342 euros if you want to enjoy it fully.

PS: I live in the Balkans, but I don't see the region as a priority, it's not like we conquered the world in the game period. First the tier 1 powers should get a revamp.

ps: Also, I'd add a Religion DLC and a Trade DLC, but maybe those should wait until EU 5.

 

[Gaius Julius Osmanious]

I'd buy if they make a DLC centered on Ottoman Empire. I mean people say they already got flavor but they were small things added to Ottomans from irrelevant DLCs. Harem mechanics came with ROM, Anatolia updated with COC and i am not counting janissaries because janissary units was a nerf rather than a flavor because no one uses them even AI itself doesn't recruit more than 5 janissaries from 1444 to end of game, 1821. They are just for show only.

Anyway there are lots of threads and suggestions about Ottoman Empire such as Timar system or administration in the forum and since Ottoman Empire is a huge empire, making a DLC centered on Ottoman Empire also making DLC for nations ruled by Turks. Since there is a COC dlc for Middle Eastern nations that DLC could be about whole Balkans.

But first, ofc we want to see Italy and HRE DLCs then we can expect to see this. Also I'd to see a mechanic about Italian Wars like HRE, huge wars between Spain, France, Venice, Pope, Milan, Habsburgers and Ottomans. Millions of deaths would be FUN as always!

 

[WeissRaben]

Patch or immersion pack, really - the region was slapped by the Ottomans too much to have enough material for a full DLC. Yet there's stuff to be done - better South Slavic cultures, including maybe something like a melting pot for Bosniak? and some redrawing of the map in general. A lot of stuff would be directed at the Ottomans, though.

 

[gougluinn]

pdx should revamp naval mechanics in italian dlc though.

 

[lolada]

They could package in Balkans with Italy changes, add some extra provinces and terrain features. Region is not so important tbh and there are already most nations we could want there.

 

[HottestRod]

Out of curiosity, what sort of content are you looking for in your ideal Balkan Expansion / Immersion Pack / Update? Not that we have anything planned in this region, but I'd like to gather some feedback to give to the dev team! I might not answer to all of you, but rest assured, everything will be read and inked down

 

[Groogy]

but rest assured, everything will be read and inked down

Rip Rod, we hardly knew ye
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[lolada]

For some reasons region was interesting to big powers.. plenty of wars were fought for the area, tho in game its quite bad region.. Trade nodes, provinces positions in them, and trade goods are especially bad for local powers.

Can someone explain why the region was important to big powers like Ottomans and a bit later Austria/Hungary?

 

[WeissRaben]

For some reasons region was interesting to big powers.. plenty of wars were fought for the area, tho in game its quite bad region.. Trade nodes, provinces positions in them, and trade goods are especially bad for local powers.

Can someone explain why the region was important to big powers like Ottomans and a bit later Austria/Hungary?

Because it was the gate of Europe through Anatolia, really. It was strategically speaking quite important.

 

[gougluinn]

Also I'd to see a mechanic about Italian Wars like HRE, huge wars between Spain, France, Venice, Pope, Milan, Habsburgers and Ottomans. Millions of deaths would be FUN as always!

we are already seeing gigantic land battles thanks to 30 years' war mechanics but the thing we don't see much is huge naval wars. i'd to see france, spain, portugal, barbary states, ottomans, venice, genoa, pope, naples and whole italian city states in one huge naval battle. i wanna see 1000 ships in same sector fighting each other to paint mediterranean sea RED.

MAKE MEDITERRANEAN SEA BLOODRED AGAIN!

 

[makaramus]

Out of curiosity, what sort of content are you looking for in your ideal Balkan Expansion / Immersion Pack / Update? Not that we have anything planned in this region, but I'd like to gather some feedback to give to the dev team! I might not answer to all of you, but rest assured, everything will be read and inked down

I gonna be honest I am not intrested
but if it was someting I would like to see a CB for european christians to take constantinapol back from ottomans. after all "city of world's desire"
it will be bad CB that incrasing aggresive expansion to %200 and warscore cost to %150 everything other than constantinapol. I want this CB so other nations can attack ottoman if they see them weakened.

other than that I dont know anything other than incrasing detalis in provinces wich means more province wich can be a bad thing if not done carefully :/

 

[Martynios]

wich can be a bad thing if not done carefully :/

Poland/Romania...

 

[Blobhemian]

Out of curiosity, what sort of content are you looking for in your ideal Balkan Expansion / Immersion Pack / Update? Not that we have anything planned in this region, but I'd like to gather some feedback to give to the dev team! I might not answer to all of you, but rest assured, everything will be read and inked down

I think we realistically only need a patch to fix some inconsistencies with the level of detail that the rest of Europe has baseline, even without immersion packs.

• Obviously province update for Bulgaria, Greece and several parts of Anatolia (there is some interesting feedback to be found, though burried, in this thread)
• Something like a few specific missions for beyliks and small christian nations in the area guiding the AI into forming some resistence against the Ottomans? Ottomans have received a lot of new flavour (and consequently also buffs) in the past few expansions and patches, there should be some reasonable counterweight.
  
• New generic unit models for the eastern technology group. They look too Russian, despite representing also Hungary, Balcans, Poland or Caucasus. Also they look quite out of place compared to the updated western ones.