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Ody_CZ

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give Bren +1HE
buff Acc on 25 pounder
move 3-inch mortar to phase A nad 4-inch mortar to phase B
make 2-inch mortar cost 55pt
give piat AT team 2 paits at cost of 20pt (they are useless as they are now)
give 17pd HE shells back
double availability per card for cheap medium tanks and TD in phase C .. (its inposible trade 1v1 vs superior german armor in longer team games)
reduce cooldown for At typhoons

edit:
remove Acc bonus from vet for tanks .. in 1 good hit = 1kill meta is too good

What is yurs balance wish list ?
 
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Ody_CZ

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i play allies more that is true ..but i think a 101th airborne, 2th infantry and 2th FR ..are stronger then british decks...
And i think in big long team games have axis advantage ...

and u will never see 2-inch mortar, 3-inch mortar, 4-inch mortar and piat AT team in game .. they are that bad ...
 
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i play allies more that is true ..but i think a 101th airborne, 2th infantry and 2th FR ..are stronger then british decks...
And i think in big long team games have axis advantage ...

You could have begun the thread with this post. This would have made it easier too see what was the intend of your suggestions as I couldn't see where piat, bren, 25 pounder etc buffs are contributing to.

Now that I know your suggestion is about that you think UK is weaker and needs buffs it is easier for me to agree based on my experience with them but I only agree with they need some sort of buff but not necessarily the ones you wrote. 6AB needs something in AT department or acc buff for the light tanks, proposal where 6 pounder and Royal guards have their own thread with good suggestions.
 

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British lack in infantry support:mg,infantry At mortars and in 6AB ATguns ... that limits a flexibility of the decks
their arty is below average
and they dont have sufficient number of tanks in late game ...
for me that is bigest problem in most british decks
 

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In the current balance 15th Scottish one of best infantry decks, Guards armoured worst of the tank divisions, and 6 ab worst of airborn divisions.
 

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I would be delighted to see:

1) a general buff to medium tanks

They seem to be underperformig in regards to overall cost effectivness. Also the most common tanks seen on the battlefields should be shermans and panzer IV's, not panthers and king tigers.

2) a nerf to the amount of available artillery slots in most decks

3) a buff to certain underperforming units

20mm axis aa (is mostly useless against air), the uk mortar carrier (range is too limited)

4) a buff for certain decks that seem to be underperforming
 

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No they dont... Just turn down the unicorn divisions like 101st and 3rd Can.. Ofcorse the brits look bade if there are canadian elit terminaters running around backed up by a tiger At gun in phase A... Or the awsomly balanced untuchabel 101st Air train, bombing the shit out of you in phase A...

Pls take a look over the fence, the one german division that is competetiv, is so because of an broken and underpriced tank in it.. While all the others are just subbare to the point of garanteed losses on serten maps.. its not that the 'jack of all traits' allies need som buffes, they just need to turn down the Unicorn division that outshine evrything else and desend to the 'awsome in all traits'. The same way the french did befor they got nerfed, or the scotts befor that in CB..
 

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'UK' doesn't need buffs, a couple of the UK decks need them. 15 scots is fine, for example.
And that's about the only one.

And it doesn't change the fact that the british Arty sections are mostly fubared and mostly garbage compared to what else it out there beyond off the map arty.

That and the lack of AT in most of their infantry is pretty well rough.
 

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I think we should wait on major balance shifts beyond knocking down a couple of obviously over performing divisions.

I'm especially hesitant to recommend price buffs for medium tanks and for British artillery.

Medium tanks are already pretty potent if you're using them properly. If they get much cheaper, they'd crowd out a lot of alternative fire support options.

British artillery in bulk can keep up a good rain of death. 25lbers already get spammed. If they become much cheaper it'll reach unplayable hell status pretty quickly. Biggest issue for Commonwealth style divisions (other than 6AB) is lack of rocket artillery + not particularly impressive or high quantity off map arty. They can harass an area for basically forever, but they are weak when it comes to saying "eff this place in particular".

I hate playing against the HS129 and don't really enjoy using it so I wouldn't cry if it got roughed up a little.
 

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I think we should wait on major balance shifts beyond knocking down a couple of obviously over performing divisions.

I'm especially hesitant to recommend price buffs for medium tanks and for British artillery.

Medium tanks are already pretty potent if you're using them properly. If they get much cheaper, they'd crowd out a lot of alternative fire support options.

British artillery in bulk can keep up a good rain of death. 25lbers already get spammed. If they become much cheaper it'll reach unplayable hell status pretty quickly. Biggest issue for Commonwealth style divisions (other than 6AB) is lack of rocket artillery + not particularly impressive or high quantity off map arty. They can harass an area for basically forever, but they are weak when it comes to saying "eff this place in particular".

I hate playing against the HS129 and don't really enjoy using it so I wouldn't cry if it got roughed up a little.
Yeah until you realize that there is about 3 Divisions on the German side which do the arty spam far, far better than the handful of 25pdrs.

Rocket arty isn't the answer. Giving the Germans 4,000m ranged 170mm Heavy Field arty when everyone else is limited to 105mm or less is a problem no matter how much you want to get around it.

The British have garbage Mortar availability, the 25pdr is outright inferior to other, similarly priced Arty pieces.

Yeah they can be spammed, but you can spam 105mm Howitzers and be better at it than the 25 pdr spam which is the point that you outright failed to realize.
 

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Yeah until you realize that there is about 3 Divisions on the German side which do the arty spam far, far better than the handful of 25pdrs.

Rocket arty isn't the answer. Giving the Germans 4,000m ranged 170mm Heavy Field arty when everyone else is limited to 105mm or less is a problem no matter how much you want to get around it.

The British have garbage Mortar availability, the 25pdr is outright inferior to other, similarly priced Arty pieces.

Yeah they can be spammed, but you can spam 105mm Howitzers and be better at it than the 25 pdr spam which is the point that you outright failed to realize.

"Other people can spam harder" isn't a particularly convincing argument for making arty spam more effective for the British. If anything it is an argument for timing down arty elsewhere. I'd rather they get stuff like earlier access to heavier mortars and better/more call in arty.

As far as the 4k arty, I don't think I've ever even seen it used in 2v2 or 3v3. I guess it could be annoying but it is mostly shackled to bad divisions or to divisions with tons of way better stuff like nebelwerfers. Why tickle a town for 10m when you can burn it the hell down in seconds?
 

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I think we should wait on major balance shifts beyond knocking down a couple of obviously over performing divisions.

I'm especially hesitant to recommend price buffs for medium tanks and for British artillery.

Medium tanks are already pretty potent if you're using them properly. If they get much cheaper, they'd crowd out a lot of alternative fire support options.

British artillery in bulk can keep up a good rain of death. 25lbers already get spammed. If they become much cheaper it'll reach unplayable hell status pretty quickly. Biggest issue for Commonwealth style divisions (other than 6AB) is lack of rocket artillery + not particularly impressive or high quantity off map arty. They can harass an area for basically forever, but they are weak when it comes to saying "eff this place in particular".

I hate playing against the HS129 and don't really enjoy using it so I wouldn't cry if it got roughed up a little.


you can wipe out entire battery of 25 pdrs with single Ju-88.
 

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At this rate I'd settle for double-star 6 pders in Phase A for 6th AB and moving PzIV G to Phase A for 21st Panzer.

baby steps.