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Love your AAR style-- awesome stuff!
Thank you for the compliment. Glad you like it.
Besides, don't forget that both Hungary and Bohemia have a gold mine! .....those are probably the only 3 gold mines so close to each other in Europe, barring Kosovo of course.
You're right. I knew of the Tirol mine, but did not bother to check who else had them. This point will feature in the next update and the choice of 2nd idea group .

Will you at a certain point also have to lose dev yourself to keep the balance? Will you only try to hamstring the stronger nations or also try to push the weaker ones?

Probably more hamstring stronger nations and help weaker ones. I don't want to incur AE or coring cost only to let go of stuff. Ally feeding is something I can certainly do ( plus return cores etc) to keep the balance.

I started a 'peaceful' game myself......I'm liking this game a lot, so thank you for motivating me to find a new gamestyle :) (super weird to have excess admin all the time xD )

Interesting rules you had there, and having France certainly gives you a lot of options. And yes, any style where you do not blob, you will find that ADM points are in excess. For DIP you can always buy mercantilism and convert cultures, for MIL strengthen gov if Republic, or recruit generals to boost Professionalism. For ADM, once you bring inflation to zero, you are left with development as only way to spend it .

[England] is well placed to finish off Scotland in due course.
I wonder who else Castille has rivalled?

Good point about England and Scotland. Compared to the other 7th place contenders ( Burgundy and Denmark), England is well poised for more natural expansion . Plus they will at some point colonize, which will boost their rating.

As for rivals, I have to load the game to check , but I think Castile is rivals with me, France and Burgundy, but England may have rivaled them . In the next chapter, I will post the rivalries in the last screenshot.
 
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1480-1490: An Imperial Capital Falls

I will start with events in the middle east, as these affect the latter part of the chapter:
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Dulkadir annexes Karaman and is the last independent turkish Beylik. Mamluks have success against Qara Qoyunlu. Ottomans lurk menacingly nearby.

Meanwhile in Europe, Burgundy beats England and takes Calais, jumping temporarily onto the Great Powers list:
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(England loses to Burgundy, inset shows completion of Diplomatic idea group which allows me to break some costly royal marriages)

As for Austria, I consider several expansion wars at this time. I consider attacking the Pope, Ferrara or Bosnia:
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(Ottomans annex Wallachia while Austria sits idle)
Any attack on the Pope, however, goes out the window when they conclude a Castilian alliance. No point in weakening France's southern rival. Being unable to take provinces from the Papal States means that the Shadow Kingdom event will fire and North Italy will leave the Empire:(. And so I decide to hold off on attacking Ferrara now. Better when they are out of the HRE and I will incur less AE that way. As for Bosnia, after some thought, I decide not to annex useless land. You see, with my rules, I do not want Austria to grow too big and put the Power rankings out of balance. With a soft limit on my own Dev , I want to pick valuable land to annex, not any land. And I consider coastal provinces more valuable because they help with Navy force limits and trade.

SO in contrast to a typical blobbing run, I spend the first half of the 1480's sitting by watching other powers grow, such as the Ottomans annexing Wallachia (preceding screenshot).

But this is about to change. In 1486, I get early notice of an Ottoman attack on Dulkadir. This coincides with my unlocking the second age ability:
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Dulkadir was allied to Golden Horde. There was no question that Ottomans will win this fight, but it would take them some time. And I had to take advantage of this opportunity. So I take the "Adaptive Combat Terrain" age ability which gives me +1 combat in Farmland provinces - which included both Wien and Constantinople. And then I wait a few months till the Ottoman armies are engaged in the East, and declare on the heathens:
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(DOW on Ottomans, inset shows balance of forces at the start)

Thanks to having the help of my faithful ally Poland , we actually have numerical superiority . I quickly move to take the war goal at Nis, and then start sieging Macedonia and Tirgoviste:
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(early phase of the war, WS at 4%, note that I was about to take religious ideas, but I don't)

This coincides with my accumulating enough points to unlock my first idea of the second idea group. And I was about to click the Extra Missionary idea when I have a change of heart. I often take religious ideas before the Age of Reformation for obvious reasons. And with Autria being near the epi-center of the REformation, this looks like a given. But on further thought, I saw little to gain from the group. The Deus Vult idea is not that useful unless you plan on super-blobbing . Which , given my rules, I was not going to do . And the extra conversion strength was also most useful if I am annexing SUnni land. But I will not be doing a lot of that, lest I will become too large for the Balance of Power.

Instead, I needed a group that gives me a lot of benefit for less Development. In other words, a way to maximize ducat production for minumum land. And this is where @Tom D. comment on the Gold mines becomes important:
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(Economic idea group and Gold Provinces)
I owned one of the 5 gold mines in Europe already, my PU juniors had 2 more, and I was in the midst of a war to get the 4th one. This meant I can have Gold as a primary monetary source for hte long haul. And the inflation reduction idea in Economic group , as well as the DEv cost finisher would be a big help in that regard. Plus the tax and production and land maintenance bonuses will all help my economy.

And so I ditch religious and take Economic ideas. In addition to the Burgundian alliance , I consider this the second big decision that is shaped specifically by my rule set and that I would not have taken in a normal run.

Back to the war. I manage to take Tirgoviste, and win a battle to relieve the siege of Moldavia, thanks in part to the "Adaptive Terrain" bonus from the Age:
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After that victory, I move to siege Constantinople, as Macedonia falls as well:
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(run up to the battle of Constantinople)

The Ottomans and Tunisian try to relieve their capital, but my troops hold and win an important victory:

(Victory at Constantinople)
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There is not doubt in my mind that I would have lost this close battle without the Adaptive Terrain.

Artillery barrage is used then on the enemy capital, which falls just as the Ottomans conclude peace in their other war with Dulkadir and start a counter offensive in Ukraine:
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(fall of COnstantinople, inset shows Dulkadir reduced to 2 provinces).

My intervention may have helped Dulkadir avoid total annexation. This may eventually affect the Mamluk-Ottoman balance when that inevitable war comes. We shall see.

SOon after this happy news , my old Emperor gives up his soul , and my under-age heir gets elected Emperor:
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This means I will have enough IA now to pass a reform, but first we need to be at peace.

The war with Ottomans has dragged on now to 1490, and i have completed the occupation of their Balkan provinces, while they have occupied most of Poland. Their allies ( TUnis, and AQ) have managed to walk through Iberia and France to harass my western most provinces:
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(war in 1490. Can you find the Tunisian stack in Germany?)
I am winning the war, and have some more ticking score to collect. I may also be able to recover Warsaw for the Polish, and improve war score that way. My plan is to maximize the pain I can inflict on the Ottomans. I am thinking about a peace along the following lines:
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(possible peace proposal)

I am thinking I should take Edirne and Constantinople, and release Byzantiym as vassal from Edirne ( I do not think I can release them from Turkish culture Constantinople).
This will split the Ottomans, slowing them down tremendously. And would not increase my Dev rating by too much, since Byzantine vassal will count as 1/2 .
If there are better suggestions, please chime in .

And since this is the end of the decade, I will post the current Power Rankings. We are unablanced again because of France and Ottomans. I need England to pick up the pace:
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I would say go and take Constantinople away from the Turks. It will drop them down a peg or two, which is desperately needed.

I wonder about that Castillian alliance with the Pope. I think I might be worried that there is a war, and because of Military Access within Italy France marches and sieges the Papal States, and generates warscore to break Castille. Although it is clear an alliance between England and Castille is technically possible, alas that is one thing you cannot really control yourself. Which means, I guess, you will need to do to France soon something along the lines of what you are doing to the Ottomans.
 

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I would say go and take Constantinople away from the Turks. It will drop them down a peg or two, which is desperately needed.

I wonder about that Castillian alliance with the Pope. I think I might be worried that there is a war, and because of Military Access within Italy France marches and sieges the Papal States, and generates warscore to break Castille. Although it is clear an alliance between England and Castille is technically possible, alas that is one thing you cannot really control yourself. Which means, I guess, you will need to do to France soon something along the lines of what you are doing to the Ottomans.
If France declares on Castile , i will attack with burgundian help. Even if no CB war. The good thing is that France lacks large allies. For now.
 
1490-1500: Have to Keep Up

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1490-1500: Have to Keep Up

I left off in the midst of war with Ottomans. Since it is 1490 and I did not conquer Rome, the Shadow Kingdom event fires and North Italy is lost to the Empire:
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(Shadow Kingdom event)
This effectively puts IA growth at zero or close to it. If there is one thing I clearly mismanaged in this run, it is Imperial Authority. At one point I did not realize that demanding unlawful territory costs IA (unless they accept) , costing me about 5 points before I noticed it. Now it will be the Reformation and I have just enough for one reform.

Back to the Ottoman war. I free Warsaw from enemy control, giving me +38 Warscore:
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(liberation of Warsawa)
The warscore was enough to get the peace I outlined earlier, but I decide to continue the fight , hoping to extract maximum concessions from the enemy. Unfortunately, I make a tactical mistake. So far I had kept my armies united. But now with Tunisians sieging Bohemian land, and Ottomans sieging back Constantinople, I decide to split my force to defend both ends. ANd I end up with close defeats on both sides, at Edirne and Plzen:
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(near simultaneous defeats on Eastern and Western fronts)

The losses lead to the capture of Edirne and Plzen by the enemy , and the sieges of Constantinople and Praque. With that WS goes down, and I am unable to conclude the peace I showed earlier. So I end up having to re-combine my troops, and walk them all the way to Edirne and retake it, a year after the last screenshot:
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(recovery of Edirne)
This gives me just enough WS to get this peace:
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(peace with Ottomans)
This is basically what I outlined in the earlier chapter. I did not have more WS to , for example, connect Macedonia to Kossovo. But at least I pushed the Ottomans down a peg or two, as stnylan put it.

After the peace, I pass the 1st Imperial Reform. This has the benefit of 5% Construction cost, which is handy since I intend to "develop" my provinces with buildings to extract as much value from limited land as possible. And then the Reformation hits in Milan:
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(REformation start)
So the first province is NOT in the HRE. But I am sure this will spread.

After that, I integrate East Firisa, pushing me close to the French and Ottomans in the table:
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I decide to slow down my own expansion at this point, and wait for a chance to knock France down and bring the GPs into balance. But England was just not expanding fast enough. They had taken Exploration ideas and added about 8 Dev points to their tally, so I am guessing they colonized somewhere. But that growth was too slow to catch back up , and I soon find the Ottomans resuming their expansion by declaring on Genoa:
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(OTtomans DOW GEnoa who controls the Pontic Steppe. Look at that Hisn Kayfa!)
ANd this time I am helpless to intervene due to my own truce with Ottomans , which runs to 1501.
So I focus on internal affairs. In 1497, I move the Trade Port to Venice and start to steer there from Wien and Ragusa:
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(moving trade port)

But as the decade near its end, I find France and Ottomans extending their Dev leads over everybody else:
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(Ottomans annex land from Genoa, France grows to over 612 Dev )

Without a chance to attack them direcly, and without the ability to help England directly, my only choices are to sit idle, or keep up with the leaders by expanding. I chose the latter, and declare on Ferrara who had annexed Parma, Modena and Milan:
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(DOW on Ferrara)

This should be an easy war. Ferrara was allied to Florence - the leader of the coalition war against me years back . I quickly move my troops to siege the enemy capital and the city of Milan. The Florentines decide to trek around the Alps and siege Wien. They meet their demise there:
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(annihilation of the Florentine army at Wien, inset shows CTA from Poland against Denmark)

Without an army, the enemy provinces are overrun and I conclude peace just before the chapter ends:
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(peace with Ferrara)
I went a bit aggressive with the annexation. Now that North Italy is out of the HRE, AE is less of an issue. And by getting a border with Genoa and Savoy, I position myself to completely dominate the North Italian plain . In the geopolitical struggle for North Italy between France, Spain and Austria, I have a good head start.

The annexation boosts my Dev by 46 points, putting me more than 50% ahead of England. But I am still behind the leaders:
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Two things to note about the screenshot. The Great Powers are separating into a top tier of France, Ottomans, Austria, a middle tier of Poland, Muscovy and Castile, and finally England. I must keep up with the Ottomans and France , otherwise I will not be able to bring them down .
Second, there is only on CoR in Europe so far. The provinces I annexed in Italy are all protestant, so my religious unity is now 78% . I am undecided on whether to stay catholic or switch to protestant if I lose HRE title, or by rebels. The bonuses of Protestant faith are much better. Since I won't be blobbing and converting provinces to Catholic , my papal influence grows very slowly, and so far I have only used my PI once , to get stability . But , flipping to Protestant makes securing the Emperorship harder, since I have to win the religious war. It may also affect the alignment of alliances. Geopolitically, Spain and Poland should be Austria's allies in facing Ottomans and France. It would be easier if we are all catholic.
 

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Instead, I needed a group that gives me a lot of benefit for less Development. In other words, a way to maximize ducat production for minumum land. And this is where @Tom D. comment on the Gold mines becomes important:
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When you mentioned it I already thought you were going to pick Economic, I'm glad someone shares my view on the usefulness of developing and reducing the costs of it as much as possible. Hopefully it will actually help to beat down the GP, as you're struggling with their expansion now. In the end, as long as they grow enough you can grow with them.
 

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Hopefully it will actually help to beat down the GP, as you're struggling with their expansion now.
I think it will. There are several things I am struggling with right now. This is a quick theorycrafting / thinking aloud post.

1) How to help England? I wonder if the Scottish-French alliance is preventing England from attacking Scotland. Maybe ally England directly? which I cannot do unless I break off alliances with Poland or Burgundy (England's rivals).

2) How to contain France? . I think I need to make sure they do not get into Genoa area . Probably best strategy is to create a strong vassal there. Possibly even a March that I never annex . Ideally I would get France down in 100% WS war and release some stuff from them, but I cannot pull that off on my own even with Burgundian help. May need to wait for a French-Castilian war or some other opportunity.

3) How to befriend Castile? My incursion into Romagna area may put me at odds with their Papal ally . If they would just drop off the silly rivalry with me.

4) How to improve Imperial Authority? Loss of Shadow Kingdom hurts, and now reformation will spread in HRE . I am hesitant to spend money and manpower on freeing German princes, and then find myself unable to take advantage of opportunities in hitting France or Ottomans.

5) How to keep HRE title? I am getting competition from a growing Brandenburg. They are my ally ( and Poland's) but now they have more votes than me and are a decent size power. Should I break alliance with them, or keep it? Losing HRE title would hurt my force limit . 19 out of my 54 force limit is due to being HRE.

6) How to contain Ottomans? Despite them losing their capital, they are still growing fast at the Expense of Georgia , Genoa and other minors. Mamluks are clearly weaker than them ( tech 6/7/8 to Ottoman 8/8/8 and 442 Dev to Ottoman 600), so I cannot count on them to hold the Green tide. I am leaning towards making Byzantium a permanent March that I would not annex . If I am lucky , Muscovy would target Ottomans instead of Poland.

7) How to watch my back/flank? As mentioned , my ally Brandenburg is growing. But I have to keep an eye on PLC as well.

8)What buildings to prioritize? I have a 20% construction discount , once I get inflation under control . I have built some docks for sailors, barracks for manpower, plan on building shipyards for naval force limits. Have built Temple in Verona and Wien , marketplace in Venice, Verona, Wien . debating whether workshops are worth it.
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I rarely pay attention to buildings beyond the rare fort, barracks and manufactories. It is always better to spend money in early game on acquiring land, but this is one run where I have to milk the limited building slots for all they are worth, as I cannot develop / conquer my way to balance.

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So one answer to all those questions is to get a bigger army and better finances . Quantity ideas are probably next group . I may need to blob into north italy for a while, even if it means upsetting the balance myself in the short term, so I can restore it in the long term .
My "Balance Score" so far is 3/6 ( balanced in 1450, 1460,1470 , unbalanced in 1480,1490,1500). I am using the 7th European power rating , but without Institution adjustment criterion.
 

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Never seen the Reformation in Italy before as I recall - how interesting! :D
 

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1) How to help England? I wonder if the Scottish-French alliance is preventing England from attacking Scotland. Maybe ally England directly? which I cannot do unless I break off alliances with Poland or Burgundy (England's rivals).
I think it's normal for England to expand slowly, in the end they only have those islands before they start going overseas. A French-Scottisch alliance doesn't help, so maybe breaking it in a peace deal might help.

2) How to contain France? . I think I need to make sure they do not get into Genoa area . Probably best strategy is to create a strong vassal there. Possibly even a March that I never annex . Ideally I would get France down in 100% WS war and release some stuff from them, but I cannot pull that off on my own even with Burgundian help. May need to wait for a French-Castilian war or some other opportunity.
I think if Castille is strong and a possible ally in the future, an alliance with Burgundy and your presence growing in Northern Italy, France will lose all its expansion routes in Europe. Keep to this plan and France will stop being a problem, on the expansion front only though.

3) How to befriend Castile? My incursion into Romagna area may put me at odds with their Papal ally . If they would just drop off the silly rivalry with me.
Just pray to RNGesus that they will drop the rivalry, not much you can do about that. Cosy up to the Pope though and the Papal Controller (and check on it regularly) because an Excommunication and an untimed death might lose you your title as Emperor.

4) How to improve Imperial Authority?
No idea, I think most efficient way is adding territory but suffice to say you know that's hardly possible, maybe you can squeeze 1 or 2 reforms by adding all the provinces if you ever inherited your PUs but by then your use of the HRE will be all gone too I imagine.

5) How to keep HRE title?
Basic stuff, cosy up with the electors, gift them, definitely don't demand return of HRE land! It will reduce their opinion of you by even -100 I think? Could be -50 but definitely big enough to never ask it. Ask it from whichever minor country there is though, who cares about their opinion of you. I woudln't focus on Brandenburg though, they will simply vote for themselves once they get the backing of another elector.

6) How to contain Ottomans?
Guaranties may help, but they cost a diplo slot. If you can, guarantee the biggest neighbours of them, not sure if Mamluks is too big for that but you could try.

8)What buildings to prioritize?
I would say income buildings as usual, although I would reserve profitable trade goods 2 spots for later when workshops and manufactures will become available - tied with heavy developing they could grant you a sustainable income besides all the gold income.
 
1500-1510: Resisting The Green Tide

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1500-1510: Resisting The Green Tide

I left off with the annexation of several provinces in Emilia-Romagna region. After having given some thought to the campaign, I decide to go ahead with what I call the "North Italy" strategy . The policy of containment and restraint is not working. No matter how hard I try, I will not be able to stop Ottomans and France, unless I am as powerful as they are. Even if it meant temporarily breaking the power balance.

The best place to build a power base is North Italy. I might as well take advantage of the shadow kingdom event, after all. So i start fabricating on Genoa itself:
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(situation in NOrth Italy as I fabricate on Genoa , inset shows Ottomans easily going back to strongest power in Europe by beating up Georgia)

As I do this, Colonialism is born in England:
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(birth of colonialism the day I click on more free war-taxes :).)
Hopefully this would help England catch up to the other powers. With England at odds with Burgundy and France across the Channel, and without any mainland English provinces , it is likely Colonialism will take some time to spread to the continent.

In April 1502, claim in hand, I declare on Genoa:
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(DOW on Genoa)
I call in Palatinate for help, but do not call in Burgundy. I am very leery of entangling Burgundy in a fight and inviting a French attack when I am not ready to help them . (BTW, since we are in the 1500s, the Burgundian Inheritance will not fire, as I suspected once I allied them). The war is straightforward as the sides are lospided. After sieging down the enemy cities, I look at peace options. INitially, I had wanted both Genoa and Lucca, but soon discover that a large coalition will form if I take both, despite checking off Lucca as co-belligerent:
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(Peace with Genoa , inset shows coalition if I had annexed Lucca as well , age of Reformation starting and taking Blasphemy act decision for +1missionary strength and -1 heretic tolerance )

The annexation of Genoa does not change my trade income much yet. The power in Genoa node is still too low, and it is a practical wash whether I steer to Venice ( for the +20 power bonus from steering), or collect in both Venice and Genoa. But owning Genoa means I deny it to France or Castile in the future. And it will help my naval force limit once I state it up.

The annexation of Genoa, which was Protestant due to the Center of Reformation in Milan, pushes my Religious Unity down to 73, and starts the ticker for the Religious Turmoil disaster. I respond by firing my Master of Mint advisor and hiring an level 3 inquistor from the estates:
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The inquisitor gets his advisor event almost immediately, giving me +50 admin as my stability was already at +3.

A year later, 1505, Poland finally concludes its war with Denmark, and takes several provinces in Estonia area:
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(Denmark-Poland peace, turning Byzantium into March, GP table showing Ottomans at 727 already)

I am happy for my ally, but it took them too long. While they were occupied, Ottomans had grown to 727 Dev. Luckily, Poland came out with no debt.
My first action while at peace is to turn Byzantium into a march. I need them on a war footing to help fight their nemesis. I also strengthen my other minions by developing their Gold Mines:
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(developing the Bohemian and Hungarian gold mines, note that i have not unlocked Economic Ideas finisher yet)

And as soon as the Ottomans declare a new war- against Dulkadir's remnant as it turns out , I call my minions, my ally Poland and my new best friend Mamluks to the feast:
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(DOW on Ottomans, joined by Poland and my new ally Mamluks to whom I promised land)

I concluded an alliance with Mamluks just before the war start, to open a second front on the Ottomans, and prevent TUnis from causing trouble like last time. Of course, the risk was that Ottomans would overrun Mamluks and end up annexing land from them .

The war starts well. I quickly siege and capture Macedonia, and annihilate the only Ottoman army on the European side of the strait:
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The Ottomans respond by sending their armies through the Ukraine and siege Warszawa , while my allies armies where busy helping me or attacking NOvgorod. So I simplify things by peacing out Novgorod:
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In the peace, I take money and reparations, but also break the Novgorodian alliance with Ottomans. This was a decision that I almost immediately regretted. So far, the Ottoman alliance is what kept Novgorod alive and prevented Muscovy from swallowing them. Without the alliance, Muscovy will take Novgorod. That in itself is not bad. Muscovy is trailing on the GP table and some growth is OK. But I worry that Muscovy will later attack Poland, and possibly ally the Ottomans. If that happens, it will become virtually impossible to contain the Green blob.

I now count on the Lithuanian armies coming back from Novgorod to relieve the siege of Warsaw. And I make a bold invasion of Eastern Anatolia by trekking around the Black Sea:
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(trek around the Black Sea, as the Reformation branches out, note manpower at zero)

The Ottomans respond to my maneuver by withdrawing their troops from Poland. I manage to drag them into a mountain battle at Imereti that I win , despite their 3 start general. But unfortunately, I was unable to save a siege stack at Trebizond:
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(victory at Imereti , stackwipe defeat at Trebizond)

The loss of my siege stack forces me to withdraw my troops back to Europe. There, I park my armies in Thrace and wait for an opportunity to cross the Dardanelles. And I manage to do that thanks to having a 5Maneuver general who crosses the troops when the enemy fleet was temporarily away:
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(trying to cross the Dardanelles as our fleet acts as a decoy)

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(success. A province is secured on the Asia side. Insets shows Muscovy attacking Novgo as expected, Sweden rebelling against Denmark)

BUt this good news is negated by the surrender of the Mamluks, who peace out and lose 2 provinces in Syria and one in Lybia:
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(Mamluks peace out with Ottomans)

I feared a Mamluk loss of territory when I started the war. But this is not all bad. Because provinces from non-belligerent cost double, the Ottomans have a 15 year truce with the Egyptians running to 1523. ANd they only took 2 provinces in north syria instead of usually reaching Damascus in the first war. THis will give Mamluks some time to recover, I hope.

Back in Anatolia, I lay siege to the enemy capital at Hudavendigar, and use Barrage on it. But then I suffer a close defeat just south of it , thanks to the enemy having a 3 star general:
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This will force me to lift the siege of the enemy capital , wasting the 50MIL points.:mad:.

And this coincides with the end of the chapter, as the battled happened on December 30, 1509. This is the peace I can get for now:
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(possible peace with Ottomans - I have not signed yet)

I will be able to return some, but not all, cores to Byzantium and get a land connection to them. What I would really like to get is a province on the Asia side of the strait.
I plan on fighting this war a few more months and see if I can improve my standing. Worse case scenario, the military situation can stalemate and I will then run out the ticking war score and make peace then .

THis is the current map of Europe with GP rankings:
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The Great Powers are very unbalanced . Only Poland and Castile are within 50% of the top and bottom powers. I am neck and neck with France, and everyone is far behind Ottomans.
 

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At least France has remain contained this decade.

I suspect allowing Muscowy to eat Novgorod is the only realistic way to boost them. Though I suppose one could try and boost Sweden in due course to counter Muscovy/Russia somewhat. Though that is a bit ahead. England remains very disappointing. Hopefully their colonisation efforts will start kicking off soon - but if France is colonising too...
 

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THanks for detailed reply.
I think if Castille is strong and a possible ally in the future, an alliance with Burgundy and your presence growing in Northern Italy, France will lose all its expansion routes in Europe.
Containing France seems to be working. Allying Burgundy has paid off in that regard, but at the cost of imperial authority. Worth it, I think.

Cosy up to the Pope though and the Papal Controller (and check on it regularly) because an Excommunication and an untimed death might lose you your title as Emperor.
Good advice. Will do . It appears that I will be staying Catholic , so keeping Pope happy is important. ( see religion screenshot below)

If you can, guarantee the biggest neighbours of them, not sure if Mamluks is too big for that but you could try.

As you can see in the chapter I just loaded, I have allied the Mamluks . I am debating whether to keep or ditch that alliance to save a spot (porbably keep).

, although I would reserve profitable trade goods 2 spots for later when workshops and manufactures will become available - tied with heavy developing they could grant you a sustainable income besides all the gold income.

Good advice. Will keep that in mind.
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At least France has remain contained this decade.

I suspect allowing Muscowy to eat Novgorod is the only realistic way to boost them. Though I suppose one could try and boost Sweden in due course to counter Muscovy/Russia somewhat. Though that is a bit ahead. England remains very disappointing. Hopefully their colonisation efforts will start kicking off soon - but if France is colonising too...
I could not resist checking on the colonial race. Here is the F10 map:
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For power ranking, as long as England colonizes, they will eventually catch up because I multiply their Dev by 1.5 for the calculation.

I am wondering where France is getting the Dev growth from. Just 2 colonies do not account for their number changing, and their border in Europe has not budged in decades. I guess they are hitting the Develop button.
 

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I am wondering where France is getting the Dev growth from. Just 2 colonies do not account for their number changing, and their border in Europe has not budged in decades. I guess they are hitting the Develop button.
Indeed, don't forget that Very Hard AI gets a -20(?) dev discount so they will do that if they can't spend their points on anything else.
 

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1) How to help England? I wonder if the Scottish-French alliance is preventing England from attacking Scotland. Maybe ally England directly? which I cannot do unless I break off alliances with Poland or Burgundy (England's rivals).

is scotland not allied to any hre princes or denmark? annull Alliance if so, in any war that involves attacking said ally.

2) How to contain France? . I think I need to make sure they do not get into Genoa area . Probably best strategy is to create a strong vassal there. Possibly even a March that I never annex . Ideally I would get France down in 100% WS war and release some stuff from them, but I cannot pull that off on my own even with Burgundian help. May need to wait for a French-Castilian war or some other opportunity.

feed switzerland a corridor south? they are a great march. problem is that france can claim entire genoa and florence area..

or, attack france with burgundy when they are weak. use message settings for all involved GP and allies, and enable 'x dishonored aliance" popup.

but i'd conquer entire savoy and florence bay, and release as princes once converted and cored.

3) How to befriend Castile? My incursion into Romagna area may put me at odds with their Papal ally . If they would just drop off the silly rivalry with me.

if you rival their rival, there is slight chance AI switches out rivalries and allies you against common enemy.

there is ALSO slight chane an AI goes friendly even if you have one of their rivals as ALLIES. even then it happens.

point being, rivalry with france might solve a lot in the end.

4) How to improve Imperial Authority? Loss of Shadow Kingdom hurts, and now reformation will spread in HRE . I am hesitant to spend money and manpower on freeing German princes, and then find myself unable to take advantage of opportunities in hitting France or Ottomans.

you could conquer nations, release dead nations from capital they had after adding it to HRE, and release them again as princes. and farm IA while at it.

I dunno if that is a violation of the rules, though. this tactic might work in containing ottomans and Russia. you can even add novgorod, finland and whatnot to HRE and create buffer, while you get powerful allies.

i think your idea of using marches is not creative enough.

conquer, core, add to HRE, release as prince.

5) How to keep HRE title? I am getting competition from a growing Brandenburg. They are my ally ( and Poland's) but now they have more votes than me and are a decent size power. Should I break alliance with them, or keep it? Losing HRE title would hurt my force limit . 19 out of my 54 force limit is due to being HRE.

stack dip rep and prestige. kill weak claim heirs. converting land age objective, adding to HRE, do EVERYTHING that HRE princes like for voting.

you gotta look GOOD!



6) How to contain Ottomans? Despite them losing their capital, they are still growing fast at the Expense of Georgia , Genoa and other minors. Mamluks are clearly weaker than them ( tech 6/7/8 to Ottoman 8/8/8 and 442 Dev to Ottoman 600), so I cannot count on them to hold the Green tide. I am leaning towards making Byzantium a permanent March that I would not annex . If I am lucky , Muscovy would target Ottomans instead of Poland.

as aforementioned, expand hre around them, from black sea to caucasus.

integrate Byzantium, and draw direct corridor from hre land to constantinople or wallachia ports. hop over towards candar, hop to trebizond, add genoa again, and make frontier of hre princes up to dagestan. then use a march south to persian gulf, past the mountains.

crazy idea? i'd consider it.

7) How to watch my back/flank? As mentioned , my ally Brandenburg is growing. But I have to keep an eye on PLC as well.

plc and brandenburg will attack empire at some point ten to one.

if brandenburg gets involved in war against Russia or kalmar Union, consider attacking with revoke electorship cb. then assign ones that will Always love you and who never will be under threat.

8)What buildings to prioritize? I have a 20% construction discount , once I get inflation under control . I have built some docks for sailors, barracks for manpower, plan on building shipyards for naval force limits. Have built Temple in Verona and Wien , marketplace in Venice, Verona, Wien . debating whether workshops are worth it.

workshops and churches; anything above 0.10 is worth it, depending on how far you wanna go in making venice your end trade node.

if you wanna sacrifice mamluks as ally to contain ottomans, i'd go for peacedeal on Alexandria, syria vassal and core jerusalem. then go for mecca. use missionaries to stack prestige and fight reformation. conquer heretic land with connection to hre if outside, core, convert, release as prince. repeat. maybe consider a march in balkans and divert trade, feed them entire ragusa node.

for cb on mamluks, one could go for controlling malta or no cb tunis if possible.

next time tag me if you want more wonky advice ;)
 

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Great advice as always @atwix
is scotland not allied to any hre princes or denmark? annull Alliance if so, in any war that involves attacking said ally.
I wish. Scotland is allied to Kildare ( OPM ) and France. Kildare is allied to Scotland and France!. I was willing to no CB a Scottish ally ( -1 stab) just to get to Scotland, but it all involves France.
feed switzerland a corridor south? they are a great march.
Thanks for the tip. I just looked at Swiss ideas, and you are absolutely correct. Several military ones.

but i'd conquer entire savoy and florence bay, and release as princes once converted and cored.
Working on it. See next chapter.
if you rival their rival, there is slight chance AI switches out rivalries and allies you against common enemy.... rivalry with france might solve a lot in the end.
I am rivals with France already. Unfortunately, as you will see in next chapter, Castile is rivals with TWO of my allies ( Burgundy and Mamluks), allies I need to keep to contain France and Ottomans respectively.
you could conquer nations, release dead nations from capital they had after adding it to HRE, and release them again as princes. and farm IA while at it.

I dunno if that is a violation of the rules, though. this tactic might work in containing ottomans and Russia. you can even add novgorod, finland and whatnot to HRE and create buffer,
GREAT IDEA!. Not against the rules at all. It will temporarily increase my own Dev, but once I release those nations back into the Empire, the extra Dev is gone. And as you said, keeping them in Empire gives them protection.
Only issues with this is waste of ADM points. But if I am not blobbing willy nilly, I should eventually have enough to spare.

as aforementioned, expand hre around them, from black sea to caucasus.
integrate Byzantium......then use a march south to persian gulf, past the mountains.....crazy idea? i'd consider it.
I doubt I need to expand to the Persian gulf. If I keep pressure on Ottomans, Mamluks and Timurids may be enough to contain them . I will certainly see if I can go the Candar route and add to the Empire. I may be able to do it Damlatia->Ragusa->Serbia->Bulgaria(once conquered)->North Anatolia without having to annex Byzantium ( as you will see I managed to get Byz bigger in the meantime, so it would be a big waste of DIP to integrate, add to Empire, release back).

plc and brandenburg will attack empire at some point ten to one.
Ouch. That would hurt.
But if PLC attacks me, I will ally Muscovy , I guess. I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

workshops and churches; anything above 0.10 is worth it, depending on how far you wanna go in making venice your end trade node.
Venice and Genoa will be my end nodes.

maybe consider a march in balkans and divert trade, feed them entire ragusa node.
Good reminder about divert trade and marches. I used that a lot in my Papal AAR . Will do again. But gotta keep Marches under 25% of my own dev, which is a bit tricky.
 
1510-1520: Victorious but Exhausted

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1510-1520: Victorious but Exhausted

I left off in the middle of a war with Ottomans. The Ottomans had just defeated an allied army at Denizlie south of their capital at Hudavendigar. I respond by lifting the siege of Hudavendigar and assembling my forces with those of my allies in Karasi. Luckily, the Ottoman AI decides against taking the only Asian province I held, and instead decide to trek around the Black sea to invade Ukraine:
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(Ottoman AI deciding to go around Black sea instead of directly attacking via Sea of Marmara)
This allows me to actually siege and capture their capital . And then I discover I can abuse the AI by sieging Ankara, which would draw them back from South Russia, and then unsiege it , which would get them started back towards Ukraine.
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(abusing Ottoman AI to win more ticking warscore and enemy exhaustion)

Meanwhile in the West, a Polish army had made its way to Tunis. With a bit of merc recruitment on my part, and the use of my fleet to blockade, I get enough WS to get a good peace out of the North Africans:
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(separate peace with Tunis)
In the peace, I finally kill the Ottoman-TUnisian alliance. And manage to return Benghazi to Mamluks. With luck, the Mamluks will manage to expand into Tunis and get stronger.

BY late 1511, I had managed to occupy 2 more forts in Western Anatolia ( Kocaeli and Sugla) and pushed warscore to +60%:
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(war situation as England converts to Anglican )

But that is as good as it gets for me. Once I push deeper to Ankara and Icel, the Ottomans return and push me back. In addition, rebels now pop up in the Ottoman provinces in Europe, and these threaten to whittle away my war score. So it is time for peace:
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(peace concluding the second Ottoman war)
This was a very advantageous peace. I achieved most of my goals. I returned several cores to Byzantium, weakening Ottomans by loss of land. I could have returned more to them, but I did not want Byzantium to go over 25% of my own Dev ( remember that Austria proper is not that large, and my Hungarian and Bohemia PUs do not count in calculation). I also managed to give Mamluks their two provinces they lost back. I am hoping this strengthens them enough to act as a future check on Ottoman expansion. I also release Ramazan back , in the hope that Mamluks will swallow it before its truce with Ottomans expires. And I get a foot-hold in Asia, right next to the Ottoman capital.

This puhes Ottoman Dev rating down to 671, with 50% of Muscovy ( but still more than 50% over England):
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(Dev rankings after Ottomans are brought down a peg or two) .

And when Muscovy annexes a chunk of Novgorod, the GP rankings are almost balanced. Only issue is England lagging:
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(GP table after Muscovy grows at expense of Novgorod - England is stuck at 453).
The Scottish-French alliance is clearly holding back England. And unfortunately, Scotland's only other ally - Kildare- is also allied to France.

Without a way to help England at this time, I decide to go back to the "North Italy Strategy" and strengthen my situation there. Specifically, I wanted to secure the Alpine passes between France and Italy, which were controlled by Savoy. Since Savoy was a French ally, and I could not attack them directly. Instead, I chose to attack them via Venice, and for various reasons I brought several allies to the party:
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(DOW on Venice)

I expected this war to be easy, and was planning to mostly sit back while I recover some manpower and let my allies handle the situation. But 5 months after war start, I get a very important notice. Tuscany - allied to France - had declared war on the Papacy - allied to Castile:
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(France and Castile at war) .

I so wished I had not already declared on Venice. I could have declared on Savoy instead at this time and ended up fighting France while they were embroiled with Castile.
SO I hurry up my own war and land on the Venetian capital in Crete:
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and then wait for the sieges of Cuneo and Savoie to end. And in preparation for intervening against France, I start to fabricate on the only French province I could claim, Forcalquier in the south ( shares sea tile with Genoa)
But my enthusiasm for helping Castile is dampened when I go to check on their war score with France and discover they had allied the.....:
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....Ottomans! ( Castile is buddy with Ottomans, inset shows claim fabricated on France) .

That was an unexpected alliance. I do not ever recall a Castile who had Aragon and Naples under them allying Ottomans. This is definitely not good news for me. Although I guess one silver lining is that Ottomans would not become allies with France as a result!

In 1515, Cuneo fort falls and the Savoyard army is destroyed by Burgundy in a battle. THis convinces them to part with a couple of provinces:
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(separate peace with Savoy)
I manage to annex Cuno and its mountain fort. But there was not enough Warscore ( since savoy was not main belligerent) to give Savoie to Burgundy . The separate peace generates a decent amount of AE, and I decide to wait a bit before peacing out Venice. In the meantime, I watched Castile and France duking it out:
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(Castilian and French war)
As French armies overran the Italian peninsula, the Castilians succeeded in pushing deep into France. I should have acted at this point, but I hesitated. Instead I waited for my own AE to dissipate for one more year before i peaced out Venice:
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I go for full annexation. I wanted Dalmatia so that I can eventually add Ragusa and SErbia to the Empire. And although I initially thought of giving Crete to the Mamluks, I decide to take it myself so that I can help the Mamluks in the future with Institution spread ( they were not friendly with my Vassal Byzantium, so if Mamluks owned Crete, institution would not spread to it. Plus if I owned Crete, institution would stpread to it quicker by Embracing than if Mamluks owned it and it spread by diffusion).

After I peaced out Venice, I was ready to intervene in the French-Castilian conflict. French troops returning from Italy had by now pushed the Castilians back in Bordeaux, and the tide of the war was clearly in France's favor:
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(Castilian warscore with Florence , inset shows difficulty of getting alliance with England)

I wanted to intervene now against France . And I wanted as many allies as I could get. Sadly, Poland refused no matter how I declared war on France ( directly or via their allies) . I tried to recruit England, but the "Very Hard" difficulty was the difference between success and failure ( see screenshot- I could have increased my Dip Rep by +2, using Papal Influence and advisor, but would not have been enough) .

So in the end , I go with a coalition of the willing , and play it safe by picking an easy war goal:
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(indirect DOW on France , via Ferrara)
I picked 2 province Ferrara as primary belligerent so that I can be assured of easy warscore and main enemy war exhaustion . This way, in case of a disaster (such as France overrunning BUrgundy), I can always ask for a quick peace.

My first action of the war is to free Romagna province, which was the war-goal in the Florentine-Papal war. My logic was to cut down on the Florentine war score and prevent them from concluding a peace where France gets some land at the expense of Castile. The immediate effect of this , however, was the conclusion of their war with the Pope:
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(peace between Florence and Pope, and by extension France and Castile)

Clearly, I had waited too long to intervene against France. ANd now I faced them alone. I so wish I could take my decision to delay back.

ON paper, me and my allies outnumbered the enemy by 3 to 2 factor. But in reality, they had several advantages. First were France's internal lines of communication. My troops had to trek between Italy and Low countries using the long way. Second, French Elan!. Third, my allies were easily distracted by rebels, small enemy stacks and other crap:
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(Example of problems plaquing my coalition in the war against France)

So I was never able to assemble a big enough army to win a battle against France . But I was able to amass warscore thanks to having an easy war goal, which the French could not reach due to my fort at Cuneo:
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(fall of the war-goal Cremona - Warscore is a positive +11 , but I have rebels in Parma, Dalmatia and Kocaeli )

After I take Cremona, I help my allies overrun Tuscany for more warscore, while I try to capture any French land. But with my manpower at zero, my stack kept getting smaller over time. I thought about burning some of my Professionalism ( now at 27), but decide against it. January 1519 marks the high-water mark of my military efforts:
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(warscore at 29 thanks to the fall of Firenze, and a couple of victories in Picardie).

After that, France takes the offensive and without manpower I am powerless to resist them . FOrtunately, I still had the ticking warscore in my favor, and as 1519 draws to a close, I move my army from the NOrth back to Italy, and manage to occuppy the unfortified province of Forcalquier:
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(Austrian army in Souther France, as French armies are about to break into Burgundy)

I check peace options at this time, and this is what I can get:
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(conclusion of war with France)
I am able to get a single province from France, release Pisa from Florence and get some money.
Forcalquier is useful as it is hilly (defensible terrain) and holds a Provence core, so I can release them if I wish . I could not get any more French provinces. PLus anything extra would trigger lots of AE. What I really wanted to do is either return cores to England, or feed Burgundy. But I never captured the requisite provinces.

IN addition to Forcalquier, I released Pisa which is promptly diplo-vassalized:
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For now , I am coring Forcalquier. Like @atwix suggested, I will probably add it to the Empire before releasing Provence out of it. This is the imperial map and the power rankings:
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This another unbalanced decade. ANd the sad thing is that my own expansion as Austria is causing the loss of balance. But I have a good chance to restore the balance next decade. If England grows, and I manage to keep the Ottomans under check, and Muscovy does not explode, I can end up with a balanced result. I marked in the screenshot provinces that I can add now to the Empire for a total of +15 IA. Sadly, IA is heading South due to the Reformation and so any IA I get from adding land will be lost. But some of provinces I add can be released to create new princes of the Empire, which would decrease my Dev and help rebalance the rankings while at the same time enlarging the imperial base.
Ideally, I would get the REformation under some control before I start adding to the Empire.
 

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Well things may still be unbalanced, but they are heading into a positive direction.

The alliance between Castille and the Ottomans is interesting. Although the drawbacks of it are obvious, I think the fact that this means the Ottomans will not be allying with France actually makes up for it in the short term. I would imagine the real problem here will be naval - between them both the Ottomans and Castille should own the Med in any conflict. That said ... you have pummelled the Ottomans sufficiently in Europe that with luck they will be more manageable henceforth.

England is being unreasonably lackadaisical! :D