Badboy values?

[Fossa]

I'm playing as Sweden and was quietly enjoying my regular wars with Russia, annexing it bit by bit, when suddenly GB and Austria declared war on me. My relation with GB was 150+ so I guessed it was the old Badboy coming to haunt me from EU2. Took a peek in the files and sure, I got a BB-value of 38.

So could anyone enlighten me how to lower it fast, just don't tell me to release Norway or Finland, they're mine, mine I say......

 

[Johan]

Originally posted by Fossa
I'm playing as Sweden and was quietly enjoying my regular wars with Russia, annexing it bit by bit, when suddenly GB and Austria declared war on me. My relation with GB was 150+ so I guessed it was the old Badboy coming to haunt me from EU2. Took a peek in the files and sure, I got a BB-value of 38.

So could anyone enlighten me how to lower it fast, just don't tell me to release Norway or Finland, they're mine, mine I say......

Release some satellites.

 

[Alexander Seil]

Hmm, the Bad Boy's back, I see

 

[Havard]

Originally posted by Fossa
(...) just don't tell me to release Norway or Finland, they're mine, mine I say......

Muahaha... prepare to defend them then!

 

[Peksi]

Release Finland and never come back. So simple!

 

[Fossa]

Yeah, defensive war against GB I think, since I started the game by sinking my fleet and haven't toucjed the naval tech button once! My colonies are screwed too I think.
Anyway it's 1905 and I'll probably release Norway, I haven't built any good factories there because I anticipated a union-disolving event. The rest however is MINE

 

[unmerged(457)]

Why isnt the BB-value visible since it was in EUII already?

Is there only one BB-value that aplies to every county alike?

 

[Havard]

Originally posted by Tellu
Why isnt the BB-value visible since it was in EUII already?

It wasn' tvisible in EU22 util 1.07 either IIRC...

Is there only one BB-value that aplies to every county alike?

One value.

 

[Fossa]

Originally posted by Peksi
Release Finland and never come back. So simple!

Can't do that, all my high-tech industry is there for example a telephone-manufactory in the Helsinki-area. Playing so that history will fulfill itself

 

[unmerged(457)]

Originally posted by Havard
It wasn' tvisible in EU22 util 1.07 either IIRC...

Yes but my point is it was visible on previeously in game using the same engine so why not here?

 

[Havard]

Originally posted by Tellu
Yes but my point is it was visible on previeously in game using the same engine so why not here?

It might come later.

 

[Fossa]

I found as way to lose all badboy points.
1) relase a satelite (Norway)
2) Get totally steam-rolled by Austria - giving them 10 provinces in Russia
3) Get ever mightier f***ed by GB giving away your entire african colony empire (I must admit it wasn't that great, Congo and some place in westafrica,) and Göteborg , Malmö and Oulo + forcing me to do stupid dog-tricks in front of the entire world diplomatic stage (Great Humiliation)

Ta-daaaaa - zero BB ,oh and -2000 or so prestige.

Not recommended, though.

 

[Havard]

Originally posted by Fossa
I found as way to lose all badboy points.
1) relase a satelite (Norway)
2) Get totally steam-rolled by Austria - giving them 10 provinces in Russia
3) Get ever mightier f***ed by GB giving away your entire african colony empire (I must admit it wasn't that great, Congo and some place in westafrica,) and Göteborg , Malmö and Oulo + forcing me to do stupid dog-tricks in front of the entire world diplomatic stage (Great Humiliation)

Ta-daaaaa - zero BB ,oh and -2000 or so prestige.

Not recommended, though.

I'd love to see those tricks...

 

[unmerged(14393)]

Originally posted by Havard
It might come later.

What would be even better would be some kind of diplomatic warnings from the major powers.
Something along the lines of "Stop causing turmoil in the region, or we are forced to take action. Sue for peace within a month...or else...".

 

[Fossa]

The nice thing about it seen from the game perspective is that they ignored all my pleas for peace until they had controll over EVERY province, then they humiliated me. Exactly what a Badboy war should be like.
Thank you Paradox for making this great game and teaching me some humility o

 

[unmerged(14393)]

Originally posted by Fossa
The nice thing about it seen from the game perspective is that they ignored all my pleas for peace until they had controll over EVERY province, then they humiliated me. Exactly what a Badboy war should be like.
Thank you Paradox for making this great game and teaching me some humility o

*Lol* Oh...shit.
That does it.
I won´t be playing Sweden until I really have mastered this game (If I ever do).

Perhaps you should bide your time, and strike into Russia while Britain and Austria are occupied elsewhere?

 

[Guinnessmonkey]

Originally posted by Fossa
The nice thing about it seen from the game perspective is that they ignored all my pleas for peace until they had controll over EVERY province, then they humiliated me. Exactly what a Badboy war should be like.
Thank you Paradox for making this great game and teaching me some humility o

VICKY ROCKS!

Yhea.... I have lots of moments playing this game where I start to whine (or file it as a bug) about something I don't like... Enemies attacking me just because I tried to conquer stuff I shouldn't have, a war putting me into debt, etc. Then I sit back and realize: it isn't that Vicky is broken, it's that every strategy game I've ever played before was.

I'm not saying things couldn't get better (the AI is still too stubborn on giving up certain provinces in wars IMHO... Spain wouldn't give me Cuba after I took the Phillipines, Cuba, and Puerto Rico and put their fleet on the bottom of the Atlantic, but this kind of thing can be tweaked through AI and through VIP events....), but yhea, Vicky is working better in 1.01 form than EU2 or HoI were after 5 patches.

Though I do also hope we get a badboy rollover soon.

 

[unmerged(14393)]

Originally posted by Guinnessmonkey


VICKY ROCKS!

Yhea.... I have lots of moments playing this game where I start to whine (or file it as a bug) about something I don't like... Enemies attacking me just because I tried to conquer stuff I shouldn't have, a war putting me into debt, etc. Then I sit back and realize: it isn't that Vicky is broken, it's that every strategy game I've ever played before was.

I'm not saying things couldn't get better (the AI is still too stubborn on giving up certain provinces in wars IMHO... Spain wouldn't give me Cuba after I took the Phillipines, Cuba, and Puerto Rico and put their fleet on the bottom of the Atlantic, but this kind of thing can be tweaked through AI and through VIP events....), but yhea, Vicky is working better in 1.01 form than EU2 or HoI were after 5 patches.

Though I do also hope we get a badboy rollover soon.

And to top it it all off.... The game is so wonderfully stable, isn´t it?!

About the bad boy thing... Does everyone agree that it should be implemented? Personally I would want a bit vaguer system. Perhaps a list with values that are only approximate.
I think that would make it less gamey, and more realistic.

Why go to such lenghts just to get Cuba btw? *Lol*

 

[unmerged(10416)]

Geez, if I didn't have such a good opinion of Paradox I would think you're posting all that on their behalf, you know, to make us all buy the game.

But the thing is, I do believe you and I WANT THIS GAME!!! NOW!!!

(you hear me, amazon? deliver me from my torture and bring me my Victoria!!!)

 

[Fossa]

Originally posted by christianx
*Lol* Oh...shit.
That does it.
I won´t be playing Sweden until I really have mastered this game (If I ever do).

Perhaps you should bide your time, and strike into Russia while Britain and Austria are occupied elsewhere?

I think Sweden is a great nation to start with to learn the ropes, esp. trade/economics. They have nice natural resources, the only thing they lack are high population. They have a nice geographical situation If, bordering only Russia.

The reason I got screwed was that I was trying to learn the military side of the game, I had a really good economy and there was Finland, totally undefended. This started a feeding-frenzy in me. I was playing a bit too much HoI-style and hadn't counted on BB-wars.