Bad Performance (Cornflake 1.5)

[Had a dad]

Sorry it's abit late, gee this thread has taken off. If anything important has come forward, give me a heads up

ok 2 things pop at once (other than me being jealous of your dual FX cards)

Page File: 8026MB used, 10740MB available why is there a limit to your page file and what do you have / did you have running when you ran the dxdiag
and... meh to the other... your C dive is low but you still have 25% of the total space free

 

[Had a dad]

1) I can live with the 2400 slowdown if it means the ai is working better, which it seems to be. More calculations for a better ai means a little more lag. Can't get something for nothing.

and since the AI has been confirmed to be offloaded onto other threads, it would seem normal for synchronization to be needed and the has to be a tick for that. especially running at speed 5, it would be nearly impossible to keep everything insync

 

[VLV]

I must say the game feels faster overall, particularly at the 24:00, which had a second of delay since the previous version, and now none at all

I haven't updated drivers since though

 

[Okita Souji]

Would this processor work https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819113284

Also, I looked at Intel processors and to change the motherboard to get intel would be more money that I am willing to spend.

What I am looking at is getting this motherboard https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132988
and get this processor https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113434

 

[Corner79]

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1) I can live with the 2400 slowdown if it means the ai is working better, which it seems to be. More calculations for a better ai means a little more lag. Can't get something for nothing.

2) havent seen that, but I turned off a lot of the unnecessary eye candy clutter a long time ago.

What was unbearable in 1.4.2 was the horrible lag from about 1942 onwards and that seems greatly improved.

True, I can handle the 24 over that Ai, AI is a much greater need. However if it can be improved and keep the awesome AI, that would be awesome. When you play USA, there is a lot of 5 speed time until Jan 1942 for example

I like the eye candy, it helps with the immersion so I hope it's a quick patch! Referring to the bug in the sound file or whatever causes the screen stutter over heavy combat areas during panning

 

[Had a dad]

True, I can handle the 24 over that Ai, AI is a much greater need. However if it can be improved and keep the awesome AI, that would be awesome.

see my reply to his reply

 

[Emma354]

ok 2 things pop at once (other than me being jealous of your dual FX cards)

Page File: 8026MB used, 10740MB available why is there a limit to your page file and what do you have / did you have running when you ran the dxdiag
and... meh to the other... your C dive is low but you still have 25% of the total space free

I run Hearts of Iron from my E: Drive, steam and everything aswell, and tend to have 40 tabs, a game and a couple other things open all at the same time, it's a mess.

Regardless, this was not uncommon before the update, it remains that the issue occurred after the update and that there has been no similar slowdown in other Paradox titles or the like. I'm not complaining about slow speed, i'm complaining about the DRAMATIC slowdown in 36 as to before the update, it ran by seamlessly at ever 24 hours, now it takes a good bit.

 

[Had a dad]

I run Hearts of Iron from my E: Drive, steam and everything aswell, and tend to have 40 tabs, a game and a couple other things open all at the same time, it's a mess.

Regardless, this was not uncommon before the update, it remains that the issue occurred after the update and that there has been no similar slowdown in other Paradox titles or the like. I'm not complaining about slow speed, i'm complaining about the DRAMATIC slowdown in 36 as to before the update, it ran by seamlessly at ever 24 hours, now it takes a good bit.

there was a lot of AI improvements added which are offloaded... basically see my other post in reply to meglok. how much delay at the 2300-2400 mark are you seeing?

 

[Emma354]

there was a lot of AI improvements added which are offloaded... basically see my other post in reply to meglok. how much delay at the 2300-2400 mark are you seeing?

The kind i'd normally see at about 42-44ish dates(Pre cornflake), all the way from day one.

 

[ChromeDrake]

I had a smooth gameplay experience before the patch, and now it's noticeably choppy almost constantly. I'm afraid it's done quite the opposite of improving my performance.

 

[Had a dad]

The kind i'd normally see at about 42-44ish dates(Pre cornflake), all the way from day one.

sorry I was asking a second, 2 seconds, < a second but annoying... etc

 

[Emma354]

About one second, but considering a day is about two that's an increase of 50% in time it takes me to get from 36-39 (Rough math)

 

[Had a dad]

About one second, but considering a day is about two that's an increase of 50% in time it takes me to get from 36-39 (Rough math)

while I can't speak for the devs on this, from what I've seen this comes down to, do you want an AI that is challenging or do you want a game that fly's at speed 5

 

[Emma354]

Notably having gotten a game in pretty fair, there seems to be virtually no improvement at all in quality anymore, late game -SEEMS- Just as laggy as always. Realize it may be a bias but, I sure don't feel the numbers I saw

 

[Emma354]

while I can't speak for the devs on this, from what I've seen this comes down to, do you want an AI that is challenging or do you want a game that fly's at speed 5

Sure that's a fair point, but they should have sold their dev diary on this stuff alot more realistic then, they made it sound like rainbows and sunshine with no trade offs. Assuming it is the case that it's meant to play like this, (I feel like they were to put it most politely)(Edit) , dishonest by means of optimism. Not a fan

(Edit2)
And frankly it seems it wasn't just me who go the impression that even with all the improvements the game would run objectively better on all fronts, that is not to say I don't appreciate the improved AI, but I think even Paradox can admit being at fault for perhaps over hyping it abit, assuming the "Issue" is "Intended"

 

[Had a dad]

Notably having gotten a game in pretty fair, there seems to be virtually no improvement at all in quality anymore, late game -SEEMS- Just as laggy as always. Realize it may be a bias but, I sure don't feel the numbers I saw

I just saw the AI cut of a rampaging unit that had broken through the front line, bring garrison units in to surround it and reclaim the territory that had been taken but not guarded and snuff out the unit... me personally, I'll take the hit at 2300.

 

[Had a dad]

Sure that's a fair point, but they should have sold their dev diary on this stuff alot more realistic then, they made it sound like rainbow and sunshine with no trade offs.

and it may still be that, as tbh not really seeing it on my machine, but I haven't played with sound on since hoi2, so it might also be you are experiencing the glitch the one guy found that seems to be tied to a couple sound files

 

[Corner79]

Sure that's a fair point, but they should have sold their dev diary on this stuff alot more realistic then, they made it sound like rainbows and sunshine with no trade offs. Assuming it is the case that it's meant to play like this, (I feel like they were to put it most politely)(Edit) , dishonest by means of optimism. Not a fan

Well to be fair, Podcat is looking into performance an a hotfix and patch is certainly coming. Until then we can a least be a little patient and see what they can do. Let's see what happens in the next week...

My thoughts on the devs, they are not saying "You are getting better AI so suffer a slower game and like it, and stop complaining"

Instead they want to provide a game that can do both and if it can't today they are dedicated to keep working on solutions.

 

[Had a dad]

hotfix and patch is certainly coming

one was released as beta earlier today

 

[Emma354]

Well to be fair, Podcat is looking into performance an a hotfix and patch is certainly coming. Until then we can a least be a little patient and see what they can do. Let's see what happens in the next week...

My thoughts on the devs, they are not saying "You are getting better AI so suffer a slower game and like it, and stop complaining"

Instead they want to provide a game that can do both and if it can't today they are dedicated to keep working on solutions.

Oh completely agree! Why I go out of my way to mention that I don't actually know if this is the intended performance, still not above it being say a driver issue or whatever. Simply argued a hypothetical