Bad news, the game is still in alpha.
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It looks like a duke nukem forever situation to me, don't worry we still have Stellaris.
I think Hoi4 is getting close to make this list
I think Hoi4 is getting close to make this list
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This is getting stupid to watch on these forums.
A year plus delay at this point and they still can't even get the game into beta, and you still get the people "ohh it's okay paradox it's just going to need more time to get the game out and it will be a better game because of the Time your investing in it."
More time does not mean better game or more features. More time means the basic shit they planned on having in the game isn't working or needs to be re worked.
They wanted to be in beta for December and every website has the game listed as an estimated Q1 release, since the beta isn't accepted the Q1 release is not realistic.
We aren't seeing this game until summer 2016 best case scenario, and no thats too long of a delay. It's no longer alright.
Edit: before I get barked at and accused of wanting them to "rush the game" a year and a half Delay of the original date hardly counts as rushing, we are about... half a year past rushing
A year plus delay at this point and they still can't even get the game into beta, and you still get the people "ohh it's okay paradox it's just going to need more time to get the game out and it will be a better game because of the Time your investing in it."
More time does not mean better game or more features. More time means the basic shit they planned on having in the game isn't working or needs to be re worked.
They wanted to be in beta for December and every website has the game listed as an estimated Q1 release, since the beta isn't accepted the Q1 release is not realistic.
We aren't seeing this game until summer 2016 best case scenario, and no thats too long of a delay. It's no longer alright.
Edit: before I get barked at and accused of wanting them to "rush the game" a year and a half Delay of the original date hardly counts as rushing, we are about... half a year past rushing
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Disappointing info 
I was really psyched for this game and constantly annoyed my friends with it, but it seems PDX is not releasing HOI4 anytime soon.
I will therefore stop caring about the game and the discussions in this forum, and only log on to have private discussions about other topics with the great people I met here.
Good luck paradox, see you in whenever HOI4 comes out. I appreciate that you want to release a good game, but you guys seem to have difficulties in keeping schedules.
See ya!
I was really psyched for this game and constantly annoyed my friends with it, but it seems PDX is not releasing HOI4 anytime soon.
I will therefore stop caring about the game and the discussions in this forum, and only log on to have private discussions about other topics with the great people I met here.
Good luck paradox, see you in whenever HOI4 comes out. I appreciate that you want to release a good game, but you guys seem to have difficulties in keeping schedules.
See ya!
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This is a healthy mindset to have.
Yes paradox is amazing, yes they have great interaction with their community (hoi4 communication isn't that good but generally the communication is better than other companies) yes the games they make are great and they improve upon them after release.
But at a certain point you have to take a step back and look at it objectively. We are looking at some major issues for core aspects of the game that obviously aren't working. We are now in the second estimated release date and we still don't even know when the games going enter beta let alone release.
Yes paradox is arguably the best gaming company out there.
Yes paradox needs to get their shit in order with hoi4 and start delivering some results.
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What amazes me is that they haven't canned the developers on this. Obviously they can't get it done. Suck it up, fire the dev team and reevaluate. If it's this hard to get the basic components of the game right (which is what I'm assuming the issue is since Paradox will save "features" for DLCs) then they made some fundamentally poor decisions.
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This about this, the fundamentally poor decisions.
The fuel decision which seemed to be met with a large amount of hatred from the community and while I'm willing to give it a shot before passing final judgement it sounds absolutely pants off retarded.
Now let's say we scrap that system we have to revisit the resource of oil and how it's valued since now it's going to be goin out ViA the supply system.
We have to reevaluate the supply system to account for how it'll handle this additional resource
We have to redo the idea of not letting nations have stockpiles of certain things and tweak that
We have made one dumb decision and have to go back and redo every variable that decision interacts with and then balance and bug check it.
This is what causes delays, not oh we wanted to add in more cool stuff!
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Well, if it's not in beta because they want to add in fuel then I can accept it, but if it's not then I reserve the right to be a little concerned.
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It's not a matter of the fuel it could be a number of things. How many iterations of the war plans system did they have to go through and change dramatically?
How many systems have to be completely redone.
It could have nothing to do with the fuel, but whatever it is a year plus and not even a beta points to a flaw in the foundation of the game concepts not something as simple as unoptimized and buggy, that is fixed in beta.
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a bunch of them are working on the 3 upcoming games as far as i know. Then you have a lot of them working on fixes for their old games, and DLCs.
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That's true but still, I don't think only 2 are actively working on hoi4 as the guy I replied to suggested.
There's no way it's only two.
In the live stream alone we've seen 4 separate people who I believe have introduced themselves as actively working on hoi4
Most likely not, there is art, scripting and programming work to be done.
My god paradox needs to tell us directly why the game isn't in beta before this turns into an all out shitstorm.
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