Bachus mystery

[majdavlk]

Is there a reason for me to create thia society if i do not plan to be in it? is there any gameplay difference between this society and other demon worshipping societies?

 

[Karlington]

Is there a reason for me to create thia society if i do not plan to be in it? is there any gameplay difference between this society and other demon worshipping societies?

If you're not going to be in it, don't create it. As the developers themselves put in their comments in the files:

#Historically a plague for the Empire.

If you create them people will join, your court will have more and more of them, and all of a sudden all kinds of nasty crap starts happening: people disappearing, healthy people suddenly getting rabies for no reason, etc.

 

[knppel]

If not done by player-end, this society is the most likely to be formed by AI vassals anyway, so don't worry.
If you found it however, you become (same as with any roman society) Grandmaster right away, which you could be able to use in your favour.

 

[majdavlk]

If not done by player-end, this society is the most likely to be formed by AI vassals anyway, so don't worry.
If you found it however, you become (same as with any roman society) Grandmaster right away, which you could be able to use in your favour.

Can it be formed if i do not plan to keep hellenic vassals?

 

[Patriarch of Bub]

Yes it gets formed regardless of being Christian or Hellenic. In all truth, it would be really cool if it wasn't just a demon worshipping societies.

It's a shame that societies take so long to make. The devs really opened a painful can with societies
We want more and more different, but they have no time for them.

 

[majdavlk]

Yes it gets formed regardless of being Christian or Hellenic. In all truth, it would be really cool if it wasn't just a demon worshipping societies.

It's a shame that societies take so long to make. The devs really opened a painful can with societies
We want more and more different, but they have no time for them.

Bachus mystery does not seem to be restorable if roman renesance has not happened.

 

[Silesian Burd]

Make it. Don't let your nightmares be nightmares.

 

[Patriarch of Bub]

Bachus mystery does not seem to be restorable if roman renesance has not happened.

Sorry, you are absolutely right. The Roman societies are tied to either hellenism or Roman culture.

I think it goes like this:
Stoics. Either roman culture or reformed hellenic.
Bacchus mystery: same as above.

This means that Christians can form this societies without hellenism.
The only society truly unique to hellenism is the olympian champions

Now since both the stoics and the champions can have some tight foundation requirements, you can't really afford to rely on the AI if you want these societies.
Bacchus mystery, has no other difficult requirement than roman culture or hellenism, thus if either happen (roman renaissance or Hellenic reformation) it is inevitable that they will be created.

 

[majdavlk]

Sorry, you are absolutely right. The Roman societies are tied to either hellenism or Roman culture.

I think it goes like this:
Stoics. Either roman culture or reformed hellenic.
Bacchus mystery: same as above.

This means that Christians can form this societies without hellenism.
The only society truly unique to hellenism is the olympian champions

Now since both the stoics and the champions can have some tight foundation requirements, you can't really afford to rely on the AI if you want these societies.
Bacchus mystery, has no other difficult requirement than roman culture or hellenism, thus if either happen (roman renaissance or Hellenic reformation) it is inevitable that they will be created.

I though that roman renesance is one of the requirements. even if my vassals were roman hellenics i i thught that bachus and stoics were unformable

 

[Patriarch of Bub]

I formed the Stoics as a reformed hellenic Italian, not Roman.

 

[majdavlk]

I formed the Stoics as a reformed hellenic Italian, not Roman.

but have you managed to form them without enacting roman renesance?

 

[Patriarch of Bub]

but have you managed to form them without enacting roman renesance?

Yes, otherwise my character would have been Roman cultured, not Italian.

I was Pontifex Maximus, controlling most of Italy, no where close to forming the RE. I didn't even hold Byzantium and i was only king tier.