How come in Crusader Kings 2 there are no stillborn babies or wives that die in childbirth? If I remember correctly it was in the original. Its a bummer, but it happens; just curious
Babies?
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PI decided to leave this out because the game would have been cluttered with dead babies or something like that (or that your list of children in your character screen would get cluttered up with babies), and they countered this by reducing fertility in-game (I think). The way I like to think of it is that stillborn babies aren't "recorded" in the game.
It'd also be pretty depressing.
Doesn't CK2+ add something like this? I haven't tried it yet.
Doesn't CK2+ add something like this? I haven't tried it yet.
While using CK2+ I've had wives die from complications during childbirth, so yes.
CK2+ adds this, yes. A mini-mod that also does this (for those of us who prefer not to use big overhaul mods) is memento mori - although it's not updated to 1.08, the childbirth death events still work with 1.08 if you delete everything unrelated to the childbirth death events. (My upcoming mod-in-development will also add a variation of Memento Mori's system (shameless self-promotion, I know))
Nothing against big overhaul mods, I just haven't found one that I like yet. Generally my problem with them is the way they rework the De Jure borders for Kingdoms, and the names.
If I decide against CK2+, I might start using memeto mori. Thanks for the link.
Maybe they could just ave a second event that terminates the pregnancy without adding a character, for instance a popup that says the child was stillborn. There could be a similar one that kills the wife if it goes badly. It wouldn't clutter up the interface unless it's hardcoded that a pregnancy must result in a named character.
This would be a great solution.
EDIT: Pregnancy trait and birth are not related by code.
So it was purely by chance that one time my wife died at the exact same date as I got a new son? (Forgot to check if he was a dwarf 
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I've had wives seemingly die during childbirth occasionally in the vanilla game. It's really really rare though, and 9/10 times my wife was sick with something in addition to the pregnancy. Haven't ever lost a baby though.
So it was purely by chance that one time my wife died at the exact same date as I got a new son? (Forgot to check if he was a dwarf
Beware of the Imp.
In the dynasty tree they have removed dead children under 16 so you have less clutter and to make the savefiles smaller.
It could be great to have women lose their babies sometimes and by chance they could get traits like depressed or lesser fertility, based on a small chance.
This would definately make it more exciting when your woman is pregnant, or even your female ruler.
Its true that it could clutter your character screen.
Edit: Perhaps it could make holding your dynasty together to much based on luck?
It could be great to have women lose their babies sometimes and by chance they could get traits like depressed or lesser fertility, based on a small chance.
This would definately make it more exciting when your woman is pregnant, or even your female ruler.
Its true that it could clutter your character screen.
Edit: Perhaps it could make holding your dynasty together to much based on luck?
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I was sure I replied to this thread last week, but then I scrolled down and couldn't see my post. What happened?
Maybe it was a different thread on this topic. There are many. This one was made today. Next one is due next week. Stay tuned.
From what I understand, the devs went with a low death rate, low fertility model. Partly for gameplay reasons, and also because childbirth mortality and stillborn babies are both horrible, depressing subjects.
Thats true. I guess those who want this kind of things will have to rely on mods.