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This is seriously a waste of money. They could have waited with this DLC until they have made their pagan/ republic/ church dlcs. Then a joke scenario wouldn't be such a big deal. And it's a lame joke anyways since you can't even participate in it with the Aztecs being unplayable. They could as well have made them Aliens, Zombies or Robots. Same thing really.
 

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I have to disagree here. While I cannot say anything about this specific case I will say that when it comes to tasks requiring creativity you cannot simply count hours. If some of your team embers wish to build an Aztec DLC they could do it in a couple of weekends which they otherwise would not have worked and then get inspiration for making other things.

Now I think it might be bad for their reputation for creating only historical stuff. A zombie DLC would ahve been better since then it would ahve been an obvious joke.

Yes, I've seen some people reffering to this as maybe a "blow off some steam" and/or an office joke from devs that PI decided to pick, up and thats indeed a possibility. If thats the case I completely understand, as a manager myself I know development burnout very well. But one cannot claim that their funny side project didnt affect any schedules and shift any resource allocation, because it clearly did, even if the goal is to raise morale while making a quick buck, which is something I can get behind.
 

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still, any work done on that DLC could also have been used for other things. unless they made this unpaid in their free time. in which case i stand corrected.

any chance youre willing to share your theories on why?
No, not really.

Also, Doomdark said it did not affect the release schedule of the patch or other DLCs.
 

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Please stop merging anti-Aztec threads with a thread that generally views them positively, just feels like cheap damage control by moderators.
 

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Yes, I've seen some people reffering to this as maybe a "blow off some steam" and/or an office joke from devs that PI decided to pick up and thats indeed a possibility. If thats the case I completely understand, as a manager myself I know development burnout very well. But one cannot claim that their funny side project didnt affect any schedules and shift any resource allocation, because it clearly did, even if the goal is to raise morale while making a quick buck, which is something I can get behind.

Agreed, but I do not think Doomdark literally meant that it did not affect the schedules. I would rather guess he meant it took up so few man days that it does not matter on the larger time scale. Now this is a guess from my part but this is the explanation which makes the most sense.

EDIT: Improved grammar.
 
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Not trolling? Here's my perception of you...

HERP DERP, AZTEC FUR DA WINZ, HAHA HERPY DERPY!

And I guess you don't give a damn about history if you think the Aztecs could invade western europe.

You're a lovable fellow, aren't you?
 

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I agree with everything you said. No one should buy this to show that it's a waste of time and no one who likes historical games (which is who they're selling to...) wants it.

Also, anyone who says they like the aztecs is just trolling.

Don't insult people who don't share your views
 

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Hooray for Aztecs!!

I think it's going to be very, very fun. :)

And besides. To all you spoiled history fan brats: You got your "historic" DLC only two weeks ago. So: STFU! :p

What's so bad about a fun DLC that brings in $$$$$$ ? You'll get your pagan DLC eventually.
 

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Please stop merging anti-Aztec threads with a thread that generally views them positively, just feels like cheap damage control by moderators.

Don't comment on a moderator action on the public forum.

If you wish to do so, use the PM system.
 

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No, not really.

Also, Doomdark said it did not affect the release schedule of the patch or other DLCs.

well, i really have to disagree with that. sure, it may not affect the relese schedule. hoewever, the time needed to make this could also have been used to i.e. improve the scheduled DLC, make a mini college of cardinals or improved crusades DLC. unless this was made fully in free time, time did get "wasted" by this. in case tehy really DID make this at their own as a mod like thingy, i stand corrected. though i still dont support it(especially for €5).
 

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Did anyone think that maybe there will be a map expansion to include the eastern Americas and as such this is just a pre release of what is too come?

Need Naval tech 4 to move accross the ocean?
Warships?
 

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After locking the anti-Aztec thread made by another user that wasn't hateful in any way shape or form it is very clear that you guys are in damage-control mode. Pathetic.
 

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Hooray for Aztecs!!

I think it's going to be very, very fun. :)

And besides. To all you spoiled history fan brats: You got your "historic" DLC only two weeks ago. So: STFU! :p

What's so bad about a fun DLC that brings in $$$$$$ ? You'll get your pagan DLC eventually.

There's only supposed to be 2 big dlc left, this aztec thing is one of them. So pagan dlc, then nothing else? No cadet dynasties or college of cardinals I guess. I accept this with open arms.
 

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I am looking forward to seeing a 100k Aztec doom stack show up in Wales, and them immediately fall over dead from Smallpox. The remainder will be enslaved and set to work building monuments to my future.