Disable the console and disable choosing another nation for your save. Done. That's the dream Ironman mode. Leave the saving for our arbitrarily chosen date.
Autosaving Issue in Ironman Mode
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Well no not really.
You disable the console and choosing another nation, and it stops direct cheating or switching via that method.
Still leaves plenty of ways though.
The saving on decision is good, stops you from making a decision then after decide to get out of the game without saving, and reload prior to the decision.
Ohh no my heir died, NOPE RELOAD
Ohh a comet, NOPE RELOAD
The personal union failed because of .... NOPE RELOAD
the auto save is also needed, otherwise it makes the above useless as well.
You could load save, fight a war for 3 years that at the end goes bad (well I will just unplug the internet and reset the computer)
Load from my last decision which is the start of the war.
If you choose when to save, when to reload. You become able to be completely unaffected by random decisions, unable to lose wars, and basically unbeatable.
Not sure how to win that war against a large coalition
Just reload it 72 times till you finally manage to kill them all....
The only way Ironman works is if it autosaves, and saves with decisions.
All the people playing on really old PC's that can not handle it should either
- Upgrade
or
- Not play Ironman
Making the changes to it, just makes it way too easy to bypass and as such, not Ironman.
Because without achievements being tied to Ironman,
You could get all the achievements without actually achieving any of it ....
The only real thing needed is to either make the save game smaller.
Can somebody anwser me please ?
You can cheat in Ironman so if somebody trully want to cheat he will do it.
Also, I wouldn´t say my PC is that old. Ironman just run slowly on almost every PC. As I said, if it saves every time you quit the game, how would you reload? Your last save would be from the day you quit the game. Do you really think this community is full of cheaters who would do absolutely anything to get any achievement they won the war? Well win it legitimately is actually easier than to reload the game till the end of world. As for the world domination, reloading won´t help here. I won´t even try to get this achievement, as I know I am too slow.
Also, I would like to play Ironman even after I completed all achievements (or at least all I can do), it´s more fun. Sure, you can do it without it by self-regulating, but than it´s harder to brag about it.
Also, I would like to play Ironman even after I completed all achievements (or at least all I can do), it´s more fun. Sure, you can do it without it by self-regulating, but than it´s harder to brag about it.
Wonder if there's a way to block the save file completely, I did try putting readonly on the userdata one but that didn't help. Could just unblock it when you're done for the day because I really can't stand the autosave after 100 years since at that point it's a hourglass party on my screen.
I agree on this. But could you at least do something to minimize the influences on the performance and user experiences caused by autosaving? There're plenty of people talking about the annoying and terrible game experiences, not because they don't like ironman mode nor do they want to cheat, but because the game mode they like is totally unplayable.
Please do not just deny players' complaints like this. There must be something you can do to optimize players' experiences, e.g. making the game saving an unblocking procedure so that the game can be saved without being paused, and instead of locking the data during saving perhaps you can try to make a replicate first in the memory. Or maybe there's others way you can come up with and, much better, but you know what I'm trying to say here.
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Why should there be monthly auto-saves at all if the game saves constantly after every major decision? Presumably the situation where something major happens and it doesn't immediately auto-save is sufficiently rare that Paradox should just opt for a yearly auto-save interval or perhaps no regular interval at all. Furthermore, the sheer density of auto-saves could be cut back. Starting a siege or sending a diplomat aren't big enough decisions to warrant an auto-save, in my opinion. Paradox could probably drop the number of auto-saves by half, significantly increase the playability, and retain the spirit of Ironman mode all at the same time.
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Until yesterday it was working fine..... quick saves that lasted 2-3 seconds.
Now for no apparent reson it takes 5-6 seconds
Now for no apparent reson it takes 5-6 seconds
I've also noticed large variations in save times between play sessions. One time it took seven or eight seconds to save, which was so unbearable during war time I simply quit, but the next time I played it was only a second or two.
Yes, the save-game is growing continuously. In the early years its about 10MB and that's fine, turning point for me comes around 20-25MB (1700-1750). Then the gameplay is massivly slown down until it gets nearly unplayable. People telling us to buy a new PC have obviously no clue what they talk about.
I feel like more than half of the game time is wasted on autosavings since about 1550s.
If they can find or tell us a way to not make saving unbearable then I have actually no problem.
I've noticed a huge variability too, but it's not related to save size for me. My first ironman game got into the mid 1600s and ~20MB with only 1 to 2 second autosaves. I played another until the mid 1500s without significant slowdown. I'm playing a game at the moment which was regularly taking 6 to 7 seconds per autosave in the late 1400s, with a ~10MB save file. The variability in time it takes to save is huge though, within the same month (when I'm sending out blanket siege forces, for example) I'll see some autosaves take half a second, some 6 to 7 seconds. This is what intrigues me the most, if it's still saving quickly sometimes why are the majority of saves very slow but not all?
I have just played my Russia game and today, saving was strangely quick. Is it because of some update, or is there just some factors I know nothing about which makes saving quicker or slower?
My saves went rather quick on the base game, took maybe 1 second. Now with the 1.1.1 it rose to maybe 2-3 seconds. Hope goes down with 1.1.2 again. Will be trying it out soon. The size of the save shouldn't be a problem since I've been playing the same decade or so.
Why is it people always come on and make some snarky comment about either L2P or update your machine. My machine is fine, upgrading my gpu to a titan would cost $1k and would grant me nothing in this game. My CPU could be updated to some extent, but there's no reason to believe it will be beneficial overall for this game and if by chance it was, it would only be marginally so. When people say the problem isn't related to their PC, but to how the autosaving is handled, perhaps, just perhaps, they know what they're talking about.
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Argument is kind of invalidate though, if people want to cheat they can do, not hard to beat the system. if I really wanted, I could cheat to do World Conquest as Ryuku by the 1500's, but the thing is, it would be incredibly boring and I really don't want to cheat, removes the whole point of the challenge.