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makaramus

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Is there any way to stop allies from being automatically called in a defensive war?
yea its stupid mechanic... he is crumbling and even if he join he wont help me anyway... its ok if I just lose... oh now he is no longer my ally too oh now he allied with my rival because of our broken alliance... rip 90 trust -_-

I hope there should be option to not call them to war in future but today:no... not unless you are emperor someting like that (emperor can call or not his allies to defensive war if he is defending prince.)
 

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The most obvious example is allies when you have territory in many regions such that they'd have to travel half the globe just to begin participating. That's a drain on their resources and they won't be helpful. I don't want them in the war. They shouldn't want to be in the war. But now Brunei lands in Scotland or Sweden will march to Indochina over land...
 

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The most obvious example is allies when you have territory in many regions such that they'd have to travel half the globe just to begin participating. That's a drain on their resources and they won't be helpful. I don't want them in the war. They shouldn't want to be in the war. But now Brunei lands in Scotland or Sweden will march to Indochina over land...
holy shit good point I forgot to mention this... mostly portugal effected from this

no point to call portugal into a war as russia while you are fighting with china :D

portugal: well... sure I will accept but... what you asked me to do? :D
 

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There really should be. But as this is a completely common sense thing that really should have been in the game to begin with...we'll either never get it or have to pay for it.
 

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Have you ever said yes to a defensive CtA that you shouldn't have, it gets your army wiped out, your fleet smashed, loads of debt and maybe even a lost provience or two?

AI is terrible from recovering from that, and can have it happen even when you are winning the war. And it's absolutely frustrating when it happens when you were asking them to prepare for a war that you were planning on before getting caught up in this one.
 

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Absolutely great idea, just been stung by this in my nagaur run, my solid ally the ottomans, declining a defensive cta, then instantly rivalling me, wanting all my land and hating my guts. So much for 100 trust 90 favours I had hey.



Simple implementation too, when nation declares it gives you a screen pop up listing your allies if they will/won't join and a button to CTA them.

Only difficulty I can see is it makes it harder to break up alliance chains, and how the Ai would use it. Or do you make it a player only feature ?