Austrian Generals

[Australiana]

Playing as Germany, I've invaded Austria, occupied Vienna, & even annexed the country, but their generals aren't appearing in my officers pool. Why?

 

[General01]

Have you taken the Aunschluss of Austria event? It becomes available around 1938, and incorporates the whole Austrian army and country into yours. If you do that, you won't get the generals. Conquering Austria is one of the (three?) ways of getting the option.

 

[Australiana]

Have you taken the Aunschluss of Austria event? It becomes available around 1938, and incorporates the whole Austrian army and country into yours. If you do that, you won't get the generals. Conquering Austria is one of the (three?) ways of getting the option.

I invaded Austria, occupied Vienna, and from memory, a "Press for Anschluss" event fired. I took the 'Anschluss' event, and waited for a while, but nothing seemed to happen. From there, I assumed that I had to occupy Austria in its entirety, which I did, and then annexed the country, but their generals are not available to me. What am I missing?

 

[General01]

The actual event looks like this.
WALL OF TEXT see bottom

#########################################################################
# Anschluss of Austria - Annexation
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 2003010
random = no
save_date = yes
country = GER

decision = { year = 1937 }

decision_trigger = {
event = 2003009
OR = {
owned = { province = 195 data = GER }
AND = {
control = { province = 195 data = GER }
war = { country = GER country = AUS }
}
AND = {
alliance = { country = GER country = AUS }
event = 2003008
}
}
}

trigger = {
OR = {
owned = { province = 195 data = GER }
AND = {
control = { province = 195 data = GER }
war = { country = GER country = AUS }
}
AND = {
flag = Anschluss
alliance = { country = GER country = AUS }
}
}
}

name = "EVT_2001_NAME"
desc = "EVT_2001_DESC"
style = 2
picture = "anschluss"
decision_picture = "decision_anschluss"
decision_desc = "EVT_2001_DESC_DECISION"

date = { day = 1 month = march year = 1936 }
offset = 15
deathdate = { day = 12 month = march year = 1966 }

action = {
name = 2001a
trigger = {
NOT = { war = { country = GER country = AUS } }
NOT = { alliance = { country = GER country = AUS } }
}
command = { type = manpowerpool value = 300 }
command = { type = dissent value = -10 }
command = { type = domestic which = defense_lobby value = 1 }

command = { type = wakeleader which = 542 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 543 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 544 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 545 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 546 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 547 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 548 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 549 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 550 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 551 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 552 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 553 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 554 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 555 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 556 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 557 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 558 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 559 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 560 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 561 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 562 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 563 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 564 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 568 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 565 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 567 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 568 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 569 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 570 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 571 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 572 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 573 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 574 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 575 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -15 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -15 }
command = { type = relation which = ITA value = -10 }
command = { type = relation which = CZE value = -10 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = -5 }

command = { type = belligerence which = GER value = 5 }
command = { type = domestic which = democratic value = -1 }
command = { type = trigger which = 2001025 } # UK Gears up for war
command = { type = trigger which = 2002001 } # France Gears up for war
command = { type = clrflag which = Anschluss }
command = { type = setflag which = Munich }
command = { trigger = { ai = yes } type = ai which = "switch/low_construction_factor.ai" }
command = { trigger = { ai = yes } type = ai which = "switch/GER_Build_Land.ai" } #Start producing land units
command = { trigger = { ai = yes } type = auto_trade which = oil when = stockpile value = 1 } #Start stockpiling oil for the war
}

action = {
name = 2001b
trigger = { alliance = { country = GER country = AUS } }
command = { type = inherit which = AUS value = 1 }
command = { type = manpowerpool value = 300 }
command = { type = dissent value = -10 }
command = { type = domestic which = defense_lobby value = 1 }
command = { type = addcore which = 402 }

command = { type = wakeleader which = 544 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 545 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 546 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 547 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 548 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 549 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 550 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 551 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 552 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 553 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 554 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 555 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 556 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 557 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 558 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 559 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 560 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 561 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 562 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 563 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 564 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 565 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 566 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 567 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 568 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 569 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 570 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 571 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 572 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 573 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 574 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 575 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 576 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 577 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 578 }

command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -15 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -15 }
command = { type = relation which = ITA value = -10 }
command = { type = relation which = CZE value = -10 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = -5 }

command = { type = belligerence which = GER value = 5 }
command = { type = domestic which = democratic value = -1 }
command = { type = trigger which = 2001025 } # UK Gears up for war
command = { type = trigger which = 2002001 } # France Gears up for war
command = { type = clrflag which = Anschluss }
command = { type = setflag which = Munich }
command = { trigger = { ai = yes } type = ai which = "switch/low_construction_factor.ai" }
}
action = {
name = 2001c
trigger = { war = { country = GER country = AUS } }
command = { type = domestic which = defense_lobby value = 1 }

command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = ITA value = -20 }
command = { type = relation which = CZE value = -20 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = -10 }

command = { type = belligerence which = GER value = 5 }
command = { type = domestic which = democratic value = -1 }
command = { type = trigger which = 2001025 } # UK Gears up for war
command = { type = trigger which = 2002001 } # France Gears up for war
command = { type = clrflag which = Anschluss }
command = { type = setflag which = Munich }
command = { trigger = { ai = yes } type = ai which = "switch/low_construction_factor.ai" }
}
}

That one bold line suggests to me that you don't get the leaders, or the manpower, or the dissent reductions, if you invade Austria rather then take the diplomatic options. Never knew that. Do you still have the cores?

 

[Australiana]

I've since discovered that if you invade and annex Austria, you'll get the tech teams, but not the generals. However, if you 'Demand Territory' from Austria successfully you'll get the generals, but not the tech teams!?!? Logical, isn't it?

 

[MartinBG]

That can find its explanation if you're playing with tech teams take over option

 

[Australiana]

That can find its explanation if you're playing with tech teams take over option

Is there any scenario where I can get the tech teams & generals?

 

[LiamRiordan]

Is there any scenario where I can get the tech teams & generals?

Not without specific events or the tech teams option turned off.

 

[A-Train]

I found that it seemed as though I never got the Anschluss decision to fire after I went for the invasion route. For some reason it seemed as though you needed to the owner of Vienna, as well as controller of Vienna and at war with Austria. However, you can't be the owner unless you sign a peace treaty with Austria at which point you are no longer at war with them. If you annex them, you are no longer at war with them so you can't hit the decision either. I have not tried it with the new Beta patch to see if that was changed. However this essentially seemed to eliminate the decision if you chose to attack Austria instead of patiently waiting for the right events to occur. This might not be such a huge deal (unless you really need those Austrian generals), except that the Munich agreement events/decision are linked to the Anschluss decision. So if you invade, no Anschluss decision, therefore no Munich decision and no cores on Sudatenland, let alone the other Czech territories. Perhaps others have had different expiriences, but for me attacking Austria was a very bad course to take as it eliminated the subsequent Munich event chain.

 

[^_AC_^]

That's not true, you can either control Vienna while still at war (so controller, not owner) or simply annex it (by war or by demand territories, the effect is the same).

 

[unmerged(371738)]

It should give you the tech teams if you peacefully annex them. Why wouldn't it?

 

[Australiana]

It should give you the tech teams if you peacefully annex them. Why wouldn't it?

A peaceful annexation of Austria, as opposed to annexation after armed conquest, will result in gaining the generals but not the tech teams, don't ask me why. I would've thought that after Austria is incorporated into Germany, both its generals & tech teams would be available, but apparently not. I don't really understand why some Czechoslovakian tech teams aren't at my disposal after Czechoslovakia is also taken, either.

 

[A-Train]

That's not true, you can either control Vienna while still at war (so controller, not owner) or simply annex it (by war or by demand territories, the effect is the same).

I can try it again, but I have yet to be able to fire the decision after attacking Austria and taking it by force. If I occupy all provinces (without annexing), the event will not allow me to fire it (looks like no control of Vienna). If I annex Austria, I also can't fire the decision (looks like not at war with Austria). I never played it through after this, as I believe the Munich Agreement decision is directly tied to the Anschlus decision. Since I wanted the Czech cores, I rolled back to a save before the attack and patiently waited the extra year for all the peaceful criteria to be met. But maybe I messed something else up in there causing the stuck decision.

 

[^_AC_^]

If you don't have patch 1.01, there were additional conditions (later removed). Just place your mouse over the red X and a tooltip will display which condition are necessary to fire the decision.