"But Duke of Wellington, the cavalry will be greatly hindered, and the infantry not so much. The infantry can be discarded when we reach France or the Eastern Lands, as the winter can kill as well as the enemy."
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OOC: SunZyl, can you point me out to where I can get the latest patch? I've only played a few years into the game, and I can discard those at leisure and begin again.
OOC: Its installed. I'll play until 1425 or so and then I will write an update and call another counsel.
Indeed, recall the way the Habsburgs traditionally gained their power...marriage. As well, the better relations you have with your fellow HRE princes, the better to gain the crown each election. Start with Cologne and Palatinate and work from their. Austria inherits a great deal without resorting to war, so keep that in mind as you go.
OOC - You may have to put me back in the Leader file, as it may have been overwritten.
But General Meynolds I must disagree. It is cheaper to maintain a force of half the size at full maintenace than a force too big for our supplies at half pay. Also the men will fight a lot better and the cavalry will still be able to overcome an enemy better than infantry.Meynolds said:
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"Very true Duke of Wellington, I would replace my former recommendation with yours, but I think some infantry should be maintained."Duke of Wellington said:
OOC - It's Meynolds, not Meynold.
Duke Wellington, I must protest! As the cost is the same, 20,000 cavalry at half maintenance is much better than 10,000 at full! They can overcome anything, basically, if used correctly!
I meant if the support limit is exceeded, then the costs rise exponentially.SunZyl said:
Apologies for the blunderMeynolds said:
. I agree a reserve of infantry should be kept.
"Then we are agreed Duke of Wellington? Are you saying we could keep forces just under the maximum support limit, at half cost when not at war, and full when at war?"
Yes General Meynold, keeping our forces just under our limit of supply will afford Austria the greatest potential to take on aggressors and neighbours without costing too much to our coffers or international relations.
From the Lowlands comes a stranger interrupting the assembled lords of the Habsburg council. A somewhat corpulent fellow with rugishly handsome D) looks, he speaks:
"Milords, it has come to my attention that as yet no one serves as the minister of interior. Surely you would all agree, that without good maintenance of the economy no plan - be it one of peace or of war - can succeed. I therefore offer my services as development advisor, should the position still be vacant."
"If so, may I advise the Emperor to invest all the monthly income into improving our infrastructure and to institute tax collectors in every province of the Great Empire?"
D) looks, he speaks:"Milords, it has come to my attention that as yet no one serves as the minister of interior. Surely you would all agree, that without good maintenance of the economy no plan - be it one of peace or of war - can succeed. I therefore offer my services as development advisor, should the position still be vacant."
"If so, may I advise the Emperor to invest all the monthly income into improving our infrastructure and to institute tax collectors in every province of the Great Empire?"
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So, the consensus is that the army should consist of a majority of cavalry, but with some infantry. Also, we should probably take into account the fact that infantry, due to their cheap cost, can be easily levied at the beginning of a war. The same does not apply to cavalry. In short, I believe that this compromise is a good one.
I agree; a reform of the financial and administrative infrastructure will bring us great wealth.Grundius said:From the Lowlands comes a stranger interrupting the assembled lords of the Habsburg council. A somewhat corpulent fellow with rugishly handsome
"Milords, it has come to my attention that as yet no one serves as the minister of interior. Surely you would all agree, that without good maintenance of the economy no plan - be it one of peace or of war - can succeed. I therefore offer my services as domestic advisor, should the position still be vacant."
"If so, may I advise the Emperor to invest all the monthly income into improving our infrastructure and to institute tax collectors in every province of the Great Empire?"
Fulcrumvale said:
I would humbly object against raising forces while at war. This will be the source of unrest among the populace, which will then have to be dealt with.
"But sir, it is not the raising of troops that cause unrest, it is the war itself! In addition, it is practically impossible to capture fortifications without a solid infantry corps!"Grundius said:
"However, this problem can be minimized by minimal warfare. I still recommend a mainly diplomatic solution to conquering Europe."
Yes; we are losing sight of our long term goals by debating the logistics of our military. The pen, rather than the sword, will be key in the long run.
Guys, guys, guys...though I am quite sure Riptide enjoys so much support for his work, let's be careful to not inundate the thread with soooo much discussion. It can get over-whleming and I would hate people to stay away due to the length piling up so quickly. Let's make your point and then see what happens, eh? It's for his benefit as much as your discussion may be as well.
Meynolds said:
As the Duke of Wellington pointed out, cavalry will dominate the early battles. For besieging, the infantry will add nothing whilst we do not know how to assault fortifications. And the people do not object that heavily against war - as long as their sixteen-years olds are not drafted in a moments notice (ooc: this is the game mechanic. In 1.09 War Exhaustion does not have to rise during war - but recruiting during war does cause an increase in WE.).