Austria keep lands or more HRE princes?

[jdavis86]

I've been having fun following this guide

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...de-to-an-overpowered-austria-in-1-21.1022687/

My current run has gone well. It is 1471 and I have one war left for shadow kingdom. I have Hungary and Bohemia, and Burgundian Inheritance just fired in my favor.

I wonder if it is better for Austria to release all the HRE princes possible from the territory? I realize the other option is moving capital to Holland. I guess releasing means a faster revoke?

I've never tried a WC before, if the rest of the Castile and Poland parts go okay I may go for it.

 

[ChloePech]

Depends on what you're releasing, really. Release OPM princes from low- development provinces you wouldn't state.

 

[Ironside121]

If you decide to release, make sure it's all added to the HRE, as I recall there are two provinces that aren't.

If you decide not to release, make sure to give the provinces to the Clergy, to offset the early high autonomy of the land on your taxes.

I personally would release the vassals. The HRE power is much more important than a couple of ducats in taxes- and you could have a fairly serious vassal swarm with the Dutch Vassals and the Hungarian and Bohemian PU's.

 

[MiniaAr]

Careful if you release countries from the Burgundian inheritance, you might get this event:
https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Burgundian_events#Restore_Burgundian_Provinces

It gives cores in the HRE to countries previously owned by Burgundy
For example, if you release Brabant onliy in Limburg, it will give them Brabant and Antwerp provinces. Or you pay 25 prestige and 20 Imperial authority.

To go around that, you just have to wait 15 years and the event won't happen.

When I get the inheritance, I usually release Luxembourg, and then after 15 years, I release Hainaut only in Cambray province (Picardy area), and Brabant in Limburg province (Liege area). That's 3 princes on areas I usually don't state. Flanders, Brabant and Holland I usually do state however, and move the trade capital to the Channel.

 

[jdavis86]

Thanks all, I decided to release. Given how quickly we can revoke, I don't think its worth dealing with those revolt mechanics.

My game has gone fairly well. Crushed reformation centers quickly and kept everything catholic for the most part. Ottomans have been obliterated.

One issue is that I may have done too good a job beating up France. Castile is now allied with whats left of them, and the Spain a Hapsburg Throne event won't be able to fire. I suppose I'll have to go the disinherit route to PU them, but that is not nearly as fun!

Also, when I revoke I lose my PU with Bohemia. Maybe a bug? 200 relations and they don't disapprove of the vote.

 

[Ironside121]

Thanks all, I decided to release. Given how quickly we can revoke, I don't think its worth dealing with those revolt mechanics.

My game has gone fairly well. Crushed reformation centers quickly and kept everything catholic for the most part. Ottomans have been obliterated.

One issue is that I may have done too good a job beating up France. Castile is now allied with whats left of them, and the Spain a Hapsburg Throne event won't be able to fire. I suppose I'll have to go the disinherit route to PU them, but that is not nearly as fun!

Also, when I revoke I lose my PU with Bohemia. Maybe a bug? 200 relations and they don't disapprove of the vote.

They become a Vassal instead, you should still rule over them.

Any outside-HRE Vassals also get insane Liberty Desire, so those are some things to be careful with.

 

[jdavis86]

They become a Vassal instead, you should still rule over them.

Any outside-HRE Vassals also get insane Liberty Desire, so those are some things to be careful with.

Ah thank you that explains it. I didn't play past seeing the restoration of union pop up...my uh *ahem* computer kept crashing or something...

Now I'll unpause with peace of mind.