Aussie Sunday Game

[mike8472]

We have 11 people in this game now so we r going to have 11 different veiws. One person may think it is an exploit were as another thinks its getting the most out of your alliance with in the game. If were going to talk about exploits then how about this one.

By the Allies bringing lots of allies before war. This has the effect of giving germany around 100+ beligerance upon the danzig event, meaning the US is fully geared for war in Sep 1939, over 2 full years ahead of history. This is what is going to happen in our game as some players wanted free rein with alliances, so once again an uber US which will totaly unbalance the game. This is why we had made it no allies prior to war, but oh well. If you dont think thats an exploit when most of us regulars know about this then dont comaplain about some axis nations trying to get more of an advantage to combat the uber US.

At the end of this game if we think there should be a few rules made to deal with the supply issue and also bring back in the no alliances pre-war then so be it. But as it stands at present there r no rules for this so everyone is free to do it.

Also with the rules for supply it is very tricky as forces in on nation may be there for a offensive out of that area once war starts, so i suggest only people from there own alliances can look at these things. A US player checking up on axis nations is unaceptable, same as an axis nation looking at an allied nation is.

So before we go planning rules and changes to the game, lets actualy play this one out with 11 players and see what happens, we have never had so many people with so many nations.

 

[unmerged(16810)]

Hmmm? So USSR put all your forces in mongolia untill 41? UK put all forces in Napaul till 39? USA all forces in liberia till 41? What a realistic game :rofl: .

Why dont we just turn on the arcade mode button

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[unmerged(17563)]

I'm sick of the bitching about explots and I'm sick of people using the exploits! Either get some fucking rules about them or stop whining about it, either way I don't give a shit!

 

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This is outrageous. I one thing is for sure - we can be confident that spain and italy have moved all their forces to Portugal and Ethopia.

So on that basis I could move the entire Brit Army to Saudi! Rubbish!

This idea that I have given provinces is a similar trade off is absurd. The provinces have no value and in one case (Nauru and Miri) they have resouces - which I can just as easily transfer in bulk by trade deal. I did it for shear game play fun for Nolan, to make his game more interesting. AND he is right, it actually works against us because you need convoys to support them. It was all about learning the game and I would not do it again - indeed if Nolan wants to give them back I will take them! I like experimenting with things.

BUT it had provided no advantage to me to do this and cannot possibly be compared to the supply exploit. COULD MIKE PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW THIS GIVES ME AN EDGE?

So from the above notes -saudi arabia here i come!.

Two last points - I am sure the designers did not have this in mind when they built the game and it is a historical farce..

Lastly all the more reason to play 38 scen as this would be less likely to happen.

 

[unmerged(16810)]

Well said Sir!!!

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[mike8472]

Hey im not doing the supply exploit so dont bite my head off. Im simply pointing out your actions are also VERY unrealsitic, giving up huge swaths of land to CW nations, as if canada would have parts of africa, south africa now runs up to ethiopia, and australia owns half the pacific, very realistic guys.

Im simply pointing out, you constantly say you want realism, but these actions you take weather for better game play or not are not realisitc. So dont go saying other players are being unrealistic when you r doing same thing. You sohuld also note that your own team does the same exploit in THIS current game so its is not an axis issue only.

Like i said in the above post, lets play this game out, see the results and then decide for the next game if the group wants to introduce new rules to combat exploits the group may want to get rid off. What is wrong with that. For this game everyone is able to to do it, realistic or not it is fair for all. It is your choice to do it or not too. Myself, Germany & Japan are not doing it. From what i can see from the map as well your statement on all the Spainish and italian forces there are over the top. They have not mentioned anything to me, but perhaps they are planning a big offesnvie from eithopia this game, i do not know, but it is a serious option, avoids the alexandria bottleneck.

If you want to move all your forces to saudi go, ahead i dont care everyone else is doing so why not you too acocording to you and nolan. So far 3 people out of 11 r doing it. Italy/Spain & the US. If the US has all its fleets rebased to liberia and the philphines, well the US would save alot more then either spain or italy on supply costs. So the allies would be gaining more from this exploit at present then the Axis.

 

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Well, as I said in game, and in my earlier post, people do as they will.

However the Soviet forces will continue to be based in their own nations territory.

Perhaps an early DOW on the Axis by the Allies will show them the error of their ways after their mighty army in Ethiopia is unable to defend Madrid and Rome...

Just one final note - people should be aware that basing troops in another nation still requires supplies & TC. The TC is always paid by the owning nation, but the supply cost by the nation controlling the province the unit is based in. Ie - Ethiopia's economy will be run into the ground by this, thus providing no units to it's owners. However I'm sure we'd all agree, we'd rather have the spare IC ourselves to spend, than have the AI use/misuse it.

Finally, I think both the transfer of territorry's - done for whatever reasons, is unrealistic. However jh has not exploited this by doing things like giving Poland a VP in africa to stop them being annexed, etc. It just grates on me a little to see Canadians in Nigeria. The supply deal in Ethiopia is a bigger problem IMHO, but the Allies can counter this without doing a similar thing. Cancel trades with the Axis. Attack them when they don't expect it. They'll never do it again....

 

[Majorball]

I have no problem on land transfers to allies. Within reason as long as its in their sphere of influence.

 

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Picture the scene....

35 Uk div arrive in Mecca - hootin an-a hollerin!!!

Cos we can.

Let be said that the Uk will play it straight - we will play with forces home based.

 

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Picture the scene....

35 Uk div arrive in Mecca - hootin an-a hollerin!!!

Cos we can.

Let be said that the Uk will play it straight - we will play with forces home based.

Perhaps they converted to Islam, and needed to fulfil their Haj obligations...?

 

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if start time is 7pm friday, I may be just 10 min late - perhaps shoot for 715pm.

Again due to WST.

Are we on for Sunday as well?

 

[Majorball]

ok well to give nolan a chance..lets aim for 7.30pm Friday night to squeeze i na session for sunday game..

 

[unmerged(17563)]

I can make that session easy.

And good news my little chap is starting to show signs of improvement. The flushing is finaly starting to work!

 

[mike8472]

Thats good news BB. Hopefully we cn get a long session in tonight maybe till midnight or after if we can.

Can i sugest that the rest of us besides JH try to be 10 mins early so we can all loadup and get a quick start once JH arrives. If were not in vnet, we will be in direct Jh and any others who are late.

 

[unmerged(16810)]

I can be there from 7

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[unmerged(11633)]

I'll be there at 7:30.

 

[unmerged(5892)]

Well if GK can only make it at 7:30, perhaps we should all meet then? I'm fine to make it there at 7pm, but no need to sit around for 30 minutes unless we must.

 

[mike8472]

You will do as i command you red commie scum.

I will be around from just after 7, to talk rubbish on vnet and perhaps load the game, to save time later, if the democratic capitalist swine major is here.

 

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You will do as i command you red commie scum.

I will be around from just after 7, to talk rubbish on vnet and perhaps load the game, to save time later, if the democratic capitalist swine major is here.

Now now. I may be a red, I may be a commie, and I may be scum, but I'm not... no wait...


I'll make it to V-net at around 7pm then to get the game loaded.

 

[unmerged(17563)]

The pinko liberal tree hugger is here