Aussie Friday game started 6th April 2007

[Majorball]

1# I recall only making an aggreement with USA not to fight in the Pacific, not one scrap of the rest of the world was mentioned. I made an aggreement with the USSR not to attack them also and vice versa. Not once and I stress NOT ONCE. Did the UK and Commonwealth open they're god damned mouth and say hey Stalin, let's call a treaty or NAP for the next few months or how ever long.

2# Just to back up what Mike has said. I asked Mike if he wanted me to do something in Africa, his reply was. ''No I don't want Asian shit in Africa''. I only intended to land several divisions in Africa and try and draw some allied attention from the west coast of the continent, which I did of my own accord. If Nolan had of made a stand against me then I would most likely have withdrawn quicker then I landed. But Nolan strat deployed everything out of the area so I began to advance.

3# In regards to Karachi ect ect. How in 12 months time could I take the fight to the Pacific against America when I still have a large British contingent at my back door. I spent the whole session upgrading airforce and reinforcing damaged navy units ect ect for this operation. Mike told me they had attacked Karachi numerous times without success. The only way to dislodge the allies was with airsupport and naval bombardment. So I massed what I could and now my airforce is mostly upgraded except a few nav bombers. Sorry Major. But I don't care what nation I sub. But when I load up in 1943 and I still have a 1936 infantry army which contributes to over 1400ic worth of upgrades, that takes my priority. So I upgraded my forces in order to give Japan a more fighting chance. After I have just said all that, please tell me how I breached the temporary NAP aggreement you and I had or have I missed something.

To my understanding Japan is supposed to fight in India. I can understand you guys being concerned about Africa, but then again what about the American troops and tanks in Karachi. Africa may not be my area of influence, but I sure am pretty bloddy certain India is not America's either. I think the problem here is, that one session with Stalins Elite and Japan is starting to look like a bloody super power again. SE.

The temporary NAP was not for my benefeit. In my opinion you have used this to concentrate your navies and air against the hard pressed UK in the Indian Ocean and down the coast of Africa. I will honour our agreement but I think Japanese forces should be removed from Africa.
India I can live with but trying to join the fight in Africa is pushing it a bit far.

 

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Karachi Falls

Karachi finally fell after holding against the 2,000,000+ Sino/Jap army for over a year. The Army of the North West frontier, made up of a mixed bag of Nepolese, Butanese, Persians, ANZACS, Americans, Brits and some others, has already earned its place of honor in the panthion of military legands. Move out of the way you 300 gay Spartans and make way for some real heros


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[mike8472]

Long session. March 1943 - August 1943

Alot of the action cnetred around Western Africa for the Axis.

Large allied forces slowly pushed over a 3-4 month peroid up to Freetown. Axis forces fought a rearguard fighting retreat to delay the allies while more forces were assemebled and begun the long move to africa. 3 Marine divisions were destroyed while retreating to unrelenting attack from the air and later 1 paratrooper division shared the same fate. 6 US armour also came under heavy attack and were moved out via rail. Large airbattles took place with Germany holding airsuperioty for a long time, however large allied air number over some 100 fighters in theater gained control for a short peroid. Not for long though as Germany was upgrading at the time to the new ME-262 standard, with large numbers now in service Germany regained control of the air mauling allied air units.

The largest series of battles took place around Freetown. A massive allied assult of 50 divisions including 1 paratrooper was nearly succesfully in dislodging the axis from freetown. However the axis held its nerve and with fresh reinforcements the armies held. It was a bloody and long battle for both sides. Now with German airpower in control of the skies the allies will find it alot hard to advance and with new large reinforcements arriving soon to match allied numbers in the region the allies will advance no further.

Small allied invasions of France were repulsed easily. An attack on norway by the USSR went unnoticed by the German commanders in that region which cut off 5 divisions and enabled the USSR to destroy these forces. The German commander has been shot for being a double agent for th KGB.

In Russia large battles took place around tula, kulga, roselav resutling in German victories and our forces drawing closer to Moscow once again. The battles were tough and bloody. A large Soviet counter attack was massacred and then counter attacked and 65 Soviet divisions were mauled in hours. The German army is now preparing to launch new offensives with lessones learned of Soviet tactics.

Are we playing tonight, cya 7pm.

 

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Eastern Front 1943

March 16th/1943, Stalin delcares that Finnish forces are a tiresome threat that is tying up to much Soviet Forces and must be dealt with immediately. With some 800,000 Ground Forces and 3,000 Fighters poised under the Command of FM Konev the order was given at Dawn to Invade and remove the Finnish threat once and For all. A Russian Storm crushed Finland in days with the Small nation willing to surrender after only a few hundred Dead. Some 180,000 Finnish Troops were routed almost immediately as the pure ferocity of Soviet firepower overthrough the Gorvenment in a Quick and Efficient regional Caimpaign.

Stalin deemed it essential for the Region that the People of Finland be left Autonomous so as to increase defensive prospects against Hitler, of whom failed to act on befhalf of the Former Facists regime and as such sealed there Fate.

With Finland overun and Soviet/Finnish Forces comfortably controlling the Nation from Helsinki, 220,000 Crack Elite Mountain units were depatched to the northern most regions of Finland. Supported by a HQ Auxillery Force Soviet commanders quickly exploited the region Cracking the Vital base at Narvik wide open. With the Early Success in the Region pools of Reinforcements were drawn upon to help Seal the Fate of Norway.

In the Center things were not quite so calm, some 75+ Panzer Divsions opened up with a blistering Fire in an Assault in several key Cities. With aproximately 2.5 Million Soviet Forces Positioned delicately int he Region the Order came down straight from the top to increase the number Immediately.

As the German brunt bore on, more and more Heroes of the Soviet Union raced to join battle with there Brothers allready locked in fierce battles. 250,000 Troops were almost wiped from the map in a German Created Pocket.
Konev knew better and took to the Offensive, The troops all seasoned veterans held there cool whilst locked in battle and cut off. The Courage of a few can inspire the many, no truer words could be spoken this day.

With the Pocket Recoverd and some 3.8Million Russian Forces now staggering the German Armour Columns it was time to count the Dead. The battle for Orel had left some 45,000 Soviet men dead and countless others wounded, the Story was repeated along the front with a toal of 140,000 Brave souls lost to the pages. There Deaths will be avenged, the red war machines cauldron has only just started to bubble.

USSR also boasts massive Scientific breakthroughs which are to be kept top Secret. Hitler will soon understand the meaning of Total War.

Stalin wishes to place a once only Warning to TOJO. Any Military intervention in Persia will be met with the Full weight of Soviet resistance. Thousands of Troops now line the Inner Chinese borders and a large Airforce is rapidly evolving in the Region as massive ground work is inplace to install new and modernized Airfields. With close to 6Million Modernized fighting Troops now under the command of Stalin, we would beg Japan chooses there next Military objectives Carefully.

The Gross import of Allied Materials is fundamental to the existence of the Russian economy. It will be protected with Blood if neccesary.

Good Session not too much happened, But some good battles with Mike in the East. Ill be here tonight.

G

 

[mike8472]

Good session for the Axis. August - December 1943

Very bloody fighting around africa, mainly for the allies. I think Germany has done extremely well considering im taking on everything the US can possibly throw at me. Its entire fleet, and airforce and probably most of its army. This NAP with Japan hurts Me and Nolan more then Japan or the US. In future perhaps you should include both sides to leave normal forces in the pacific other wise persia will happen again.

With German airsuperioty over west africa Hitler decided it was time to do some invasions of his own. An operation was put together to retake cape verde Islands. On the way to this island however it was spotted that the USA had move over 80 airunits to ascusion island. The fleet was directed to invade this island and destroy the US air or force it away. On route to this a US fleet was intercepted and after a series of battles was mostly destroyed. The island was retacken and then abandoned soon afterwards.

The fleet now moved to cape verde which was under intense air bombardment. The 3 US marines and 2 infantry there were destroyed in the invasion. These series of invasions had a much larger consquence. As the US was determined to retake them after there pride had been pricked.

On land US forces were slowly pushing forward and massing. German counter attacks and air attacks resulted in 5 US marines divisions being destroyed and later 3 British Armour divisions. The German luftwaffe mauled the US airforce at every opportunity. Many allied bombers were lost in combat with at least 5 units being seen destroyed in air combat alone, 4 of the lvl 3 naval bombers.

However after a series of battles Axis forces pulled out of freetown, the front was simple to long defend and the risk of being cut off was great. The damage had been done and over a year wasted for the allies. Defensive positions have been resecured on a much smaller front in Northern Africa.

Hitler now knew the US would make its move on the canaire islands or attempt invasions behind the lines further north. Massive airpower has been moved into the region and fleets readied. Now all we had to do was wait for the Allies move. It didnt take long with 2 large US CV fleets moving into position off the canaries. A old Vinchy BB fleet was sent to look around for US fleets and found a US CV fleet. The vinchy fleet retreated north after taking some damage, this was a lure to bring the US fleet into airpower range to run straight into my BB fleet. It worked a treat the vinchy and german fleets combined and with bad weather began to hammer the US CV's. Movement of the fleets was co-ordinated brillenlty by the commanders moving from province to province at night time and moving during the day as we have air control. SO better to fight by night and move in day light with air cover.

The First US CV fleet has being decimated by the BBs and air attack, many of the CVs were heavily damaged and 1 sunk, lots of escourts were being sunk quckily. The US was trying to keep the battle going long enough for its second fleet to reach the battle in day light hours. However Hitler held the battle during dayight hours knowing the bad weather would give his fleet the advanatage. The 2nd US CV fleet was hammered with many of its escourts destroyed and a 2nd CV being sunk. By the end of the battles 2 US fleets had run out of escourts and the rest of the CVs were only 1-2 hours from being ahilated due to no escourts. The US beat a hasty retreat.

The total loses from these battes for the US was 5 TPs, 23 DDs, 1 CA, 11 CLs and 2 CVs. A massive loss of lvl V warships for the US. All the axis lost was one 1 lvl IV BB and some old vinchy ships that was it. Combined with the airlosses, land forces and naval it was a huge loss of material and men for the allies. Combine this with the allied disaster in persia which im sure Tojo will post about. Hitler is pleased with the fighting withdrawal and minimal losses suffered while inflicting more damage then dreamed on the mighty US navy.

2 Entire US CV fleets were defeated and badly mauled by 1 Germany BB fleet and some help from old vinchy ships. The best modern ships the US navy could throw at us and they got decimated. Hope Japan is taking lessons here. The fleets which hammered gunny as Japan are being mauled by Germany. Revenge for our axis brothers. Hitler has said this point and no further, the line has been drawn. The allies will advance no more. And every attempt via land and sea will now end in the same result huge allied loses.

The only other area of concern was Norway were axis forces pulled out deciding it was better to let the soviets and Allies fight over it. Rumor has it Stalin is not on friendly terms with the allies after the Norway incident with the US tacking a number of provinces at the expense of soviet blood. It seems the allies should get down and kiss Stalins behind as it was Russia that prevented the destruction of the entire US/UK air and land forces in perisa.

This brings up a point that happended in our other game which we should not let it runin this one. Do not move all your forces moving out of Persia via Russia to Europe or Africa and leave nothing in the pacific against Japan. Its runins the game to move everything against one side. If you dont want to see 200 Jap divisions in Europe and 100 planes then play the game more balanced and actualy fight Japan the way the allies would. I enjoy kicking the crap out of major but not even Germany can take on everything the Russians/UK and USA can all throw at it. Play the game the right way other wise we will all start doing doddgy stuff like huge jap forces in Europe. Not much point being in Asia if allies arnt going to do anything. Not like the US is going to send it fleets to invade Japan with all its air in africa? All those Chines/Jap divisions now got nothing to do with there deal with the USSR. If allies dont apply preasure I'll ask they be redployed to Africa/Europe. So keep it a balanced game.

Good session.

 

[Majorball]

This brings up a point that happended in our other game which we should not let it runin this one. Do not move all your forces moving out of Persia via Russia to Europe or Africa and leave nothing in the pacific against Japan. Its runins the game to move everything against one side. If you dont want to see 200 Jap divisions in Europe and 100 planes then play the game more balanced and actualy fight Japan the way the allies would. I enjoy kicking the crap out of major but not even Germany can take on everything the Russians/UK and USA can all throw at it. Play the game the right way other wise we will all start doing doddgy stuff like huge jap forces in Europe. Not much point being in Asia if allies arnt going to do anything. Not like the US is going to send it fleets to invade Japan with all its air in africa? All those Chines/Jap divisions now got nothing to do with there deal with the USSR. If allies dont apply preasure I'll ask they be redployed to Africa/Europe. So keep it a balanced game.

Good session.

Dont talk to us about dodgy stuff...No one was giving any sympathy to the UK player when everyone was ganging up on him. Put up and shut up. Any NAP with the Japs was not made for the USA. Its no different to the NAP you had with the Russians and you diverted all you aircraft to Africa. Unlike Japan I have left significant forces in the Pacific. The Allies objective is to beat the Axis at their own game. You have lead the way in the use of Air blobs and battleships. Dont complain because we have learned from our mistakes. Come May 1944 it will be full on war against the Japs so you will have nothing to worry about. Our position has been considerably weakened by the UK being kicked out of India and Persia. So I expect all those Jap divisions to be defending their newly gained empire so any advance will not be easy.

A successful session for the Allies with large chunks of land captured and a dozen Italian divisions destroyed including a HQ. Losses by the Allies were minimal considering the gains which were made. The axis have air superiority due to their Turbo jets but this will not last for ever.

 

[mike8472]

Dont talk to us about dodgy stuff...No one was giving any sympathy to the UK player when everyone was ganging up on him. Put up and shut up. Any NAP with the Japs was not made for the USA. Its no different to the NAP you had with the Russians and you diverted all you aircraft to Africa. Unlike Japan I have left significant forces in the Pacific. The Allies objective is to beat the Axis at their own game. You have lead the way in the use of Air blobs and battleships. Dont complain because we have learned from our mistakes. Come May 1944 it will be full on war against the Japs so you will have nothing to worry about. Our position has been considerably weakened by the UK being kicked out of India and Persia. So I expect all those Jap divisions to be defending their newly gained empire so any advance will not be easy.

A successful session for the Allies with large chunks of land captured and a dozen Italian divisions destroyed including a HQ. Losses by the Allies were minimal considering the gains which were made. The axis have air superiority due to their Turbo jets but this will not last for ever.

I dont care about the blobs, which you used first off africa and I only responded to your actions. My air is not needed in Russia as Russia has no bombers in which to hurt my army. The airforce is only there to protect my troops, since there is nothing to protect from they sit there doing nothing. That is the only reason they are in africa due to no threat from Russia. Give Russia 50 bombers then it may be different.

If you dont want air blobs then take the high ground and withdraw most of your 80 fighters and I will do the same. I only had half the number you had in the most recent battles, the others are preparing for a new offensive some where. So make a proposal if you dont want the air blobs, but live by your own high standards first.

My only concern is for a good game and as long as yous fight Japan too and dont artificaly fight only in europe. You should have fun Island hopping or at least trying to liberate Persia and India after that mess. Stalin did a great job. To bad he wasnt Japan from the start might have alot tougher fight for US in pacfici.

There was only a NAP with russia as the soviets took along time to SR units. I was ready for along time to fight, I was only cut off, no oil for tanks not much damage to acutal units. G just needed so long to redploy all his units all over the place. It was at russias insistance on the NAP and he even asked for an extension as it was taking so long.

The options are for Japan to defend itself with all its troops, but thats only needed if Japan actualy has a threat otherwise those troops can go to Europe/Africa or a 2nd front on Russia to finish the red devils off. So hopefully the allies try to counter the Japs to draw there forces or we will use them where the allies mass, like in Europe.

I just dont want to see what happened in our last long game. were due to allies being beaten in pacific they gave up and just let Japan do nothing. Allies sent everything to Europe so Japan sent everything to Europe. Was a long game but silly in the end with all of the allies and Japs in europe. I dont want to see a repeat of this. The game can be a long one and a fun world wide war if we play it that way.

I dont want Jap troops in Europe but if Allies focus on me soley and do nothing against Japan then I will aks Japan to do so. Thats what im trying to avoid.

 

[Majorball]

I dont care about the blobs, which you used first off africa and I only responded to your actions. My air is not needed in Russia as Russia has no bombers in which to hurt my army. The airforce is only there to protect my troops, since there is nothing to protect from they sit there doing nothing. That is the only reason they are in africa due to no threat from Russia. Give Russia 50 bombers then it may be different.

If you dont want air blobs then take the high ground and withdraw most of your 80 fighters and I will do the same. I only had half the number you had in the most recent battles, the others are preparing for a new offensive some where. So make a proposal if you dont want the air blobs, but live by your own high standards first.

My only concern is for a good game and as long as yous fight Japan too and dont artificaly fight only in europe. You should have fun Island hopping or at least trying to liberate Persia and India after that mess. Stalin did a great job. To bad he wasnt Japan from the start might have alot tougher fight for US in pacfici.

There was only a NAP with russia as the soviets took along time to SR units. I was ready for along time to fight, I was only cut off, no oil for tanks not much damage to acutal units. G just needed so long to redploy all his units all over the place. It was at russias insistance on the NAP and he even asked for an extension as it was taking so long.

The options are for Japan to defend itself with all its troops, but thats only needed if Japan actualy has a threat otherwise those troops can go to Europe/Africa or a 2nd front on Russia to finish the red devils off. So hopefully the allies try to counter the Japs to draw there forces or we will use them where the allies mass, like in Europe.

I just dont want to see what happened in our last long game. were due to allies being beaten in pacific they gave up and just let Japan do nothing. Allies sent everything to Europe so Japan sent everything to Europe. Was a long game but silly in the end with all of the allies and Japs in europe. I dont want to see a repeat of this. The game can be a long one and a fun world wide war if we play it that way.

I dont want Jap troops in Europe but if Allies focus on me soley and do nothing against Japan then I will aks Japan to do so. Thats what im trying to avoid.

You have nothing to worry about...Japan's turn will come. You have always out numbered USA in planes and quality no matter what area you choose to fight. If you look at the conquest of the Axis in this game with the Med closed from 1940, Iceland , Azores, all of India and Persia gone I would hardly say you guys havnt had any fun. Its our turn now!! When this NAP expires with Japan in May 1944 they are free to attack anywhere they want including Africa. The UK has had the focus of all the Axis powers from 1939. Its just time to even up the playing field. Its going to take years for the Allies to regain half the territory lost prior to the USA entry into the war. I am sure you will have fun as a US puppet I detect fear in your post..are you scared of US tanks?? :rofl: I am sure the UK player also has ambitions to take back what he has lost but its difficult for him when he cannot ship anything from the UK.

The air blobs are just part of the game. I have no problem with it as we all can do it. When we play a new game with basing restrictions it might make things more interesting and require more planning.

I am sure the UK player also has ambitions to take back what he has lost but its difficult for him when he cannot ship anything from the UK. I am sure the UK player would be more than happy to send troops to India and Africa to fight the Japs but they cannot when you control all the sea lanes and approaches. Because of this they have to fight in Europe and Africa. Indirectly you have been contributing to the UK defeat in India. Your attacks on the UK pre Jap entry in the war has made it very difficult for them to make a better fight in Persia and India.

At least Nolan didnt complain so much when he was being pumped by Japan when I agreed to no offensive operations against the Japs. Why dont you just take your medicine like a man and I am sure when its back on in the Pacific lots of Air will have to be sent there to fight the Japs. In the mean time I intend to take as much land as I can just like Japan did in India and Persia. Its just that I never had the troops 6 months ago so you could say I am making up for lost time.

I am actually enjoying this game....

 

[mike8472]

Im not worried about the present I got your measure as seen by your huge losses on land, sea and the air.

All I was concerned about is the Pacific war becomming a non event meaning everything including Japan has to come to Europe.

You can try and take more land in africa. Hitler annouces to the world this far and no further.

The German navy however looks forward to sinking another 35 US ships next session for minimal loss to itself. While Japan rebuilds the US dwindles.

 

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Jap-Cino Empire 1943.

After Tojo Gunn retreated to his family bunker due to personal reasons. The command of the Jap-Cino forces were left in control of Commander and Cheif System Lord. Due to his failures to remove the British and allied presence from India he was stepped aside. As of April 43, temporary Commander in Cheif of the Imperial Armed Forces Stalins Elite was put in place. The first order of business was to upgrade and modernize the outdated 1936 army which Japan had. The airforce was prioritized for upgrading as it would be the key element in our future offensives that were being planned.

Over 80 fighters freshly upgraded to lvl 3 were unleashed in an unrelenting day and night mission to gain and maintain air superiority over areas of the Indian Ocean. After we had acheived our first objective we looked at getting air bases closer to Karachi in order to unleash bombers and bases for naval bombers to intercept any allied attempt to get further reinforcements to the region. The entire IJN had recently been deployed to Bombay in order to co-ordinate with the airforce as a screen for the coming offensives into allied controlled Saudi Peninsular.

Elements of Imperial naval bomber command spotted a large Britsh battleship fleet off the coast of Karachi. An IJN battleship sqaudron was dispatched with 2 of our battleships as the command ships of the group. All available airpower in the area was ordered to support the battle group as we engaged the British BB's, a small CV fleet was also assembled and dispatched to support the battle that was about to happen. We engaged at night and in poor weather. Our 2 modern BB's had encountered 4 British BB's. Our BB fleet dealt some heavy damage to their battle group but after one of our BB's were sunk and due to the poor weather we retreated and our CV fleet was ordered to intercept at all possible speed. Intercept they did. All 17 British ships including the 4 BB's were sunk. The first great victory Japan had since entering the war.

Next we moved to annex all the Commonwealth minors along the Saudi Peninsular, which with the support of shore bombardment we managed with ease. Another great victory for Japan which sore close to 10 allied divisions destroyed. From that point we decided to land a small incursion into Djibouti along the Horn of the African coast despite initial opposition from our allies in Europe. Only 7 divisions were intially landed until we noticed that the British forces in the area had strategically redeployed out of the area. High command in Japan gave the green light to land more divisions and to begin a general advance into the former Italian colony of Ethiopia.

Around the same time of the incursion into Africa. We launched a massive attack into Karachi after a small stockpile of V1 missiles had been used to destroy the infrastructure of the province. Naval bombardment supported by over 60 air divisions covered an attack made by nearly 200 Jap-Cino divisions. The ending result was massive manpower loss for the allied forces and for the first time the allied forces were in full retreat from Karachi. C-I-C Stalins Elite had finally broken the supposed 12 month stalemate. With momentum on our side from the shock and awe tactics that had just been used on the defenders of Karachi, we used the advantage to attack and take Char Bahar which opened the invasion of Persia.

The battle raged bitterly in the sands of Persia as the allies were forced to retreat on every front. An unrelenting tide of airpower destroyed an estimated 20 allied divisions. Due to Russian intervention the allies managed to retreat into the safety of the Russia motherland leaving behind a small French rear gaurd of tanks to cover they're retreat. Shortly after the shock and awe tactics were turned to Sri Lanka, the last British stronghold in the Indian Ocean which sore the destruction of another 9 allied divisions. The nation of Indian was granted soverignty and joined the growing number of nations in the Jap-Cino alliance and Persia was annexed.

In total we lost 1 Chinese tactical Bomber division, 1 Battleship and one older class submarine. The allies lost 17 warships, 4 of which were BB's. We estimate between 20 - 40 divisions destroyed or surrendered and massive manpower loss. In short I think Japan has been revived from it's defeats and now enters 1944 as a major power which the allies cannot ignore. As far as the Pacific goes. Major how do you say turbo-jet fighter in Japanese??? SE.

 

[Majorball]

Im not worried about the present I got your measure as seen by your huge losses on land, sea and the air.

All I was concerned about is the Pacific war becomming a non event meaning everything including Japan has to come to Europe.

You can try and take more land in africa. Hitler annouces to the world this far and no further.

The German navy however looks forward to sinking another 35 US ships next session for minimal loss to itself. While Japan rebuilds the US dwindles.

Losses happen in war. The aggressor always has to lay his cards on the table first. Its easy sitting back and sending in counters but you only have so much land to play with. They will be remembered. A quote from a great Chinese philosopher "plenty more where they came from"

But for every ship you sink or division you kill 3 more roll off the production lines.

Onwards to Victory we roll.

By the way can you rush a couple of my techs..dont really care if you rush Turbo jet fighter even though I lost rocket engine doc 3 times probably should have had it 6 months ago. Seemed a better connection didnt lose any last night that I know about. I lost about 4 between sessions. Couple of fighter air docs and artillery doc. It appears once you start losing them you keep losing them.

 

[Majorball]

Major how do you say turbo-jet fighter in Japanese??? SE.

ta-bo jetto faita-

 

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Axis claims of Allied losses in Persia are exagerated (as usual) Mostly second rate units such as Persian infantry and old Cav units were lost in the retreat and 2 US/Brit motorised divs were lost to bombers but all other mobile Brit/US forces withdrew in good order into Soviet territory.

The Allied outnumbered Far East Army battled against Tojos massive 2,000,000+ Army for 2 years fighting from Burma all the way to Northan Persia with great skill and tenacity. Churchhill salutes them all.


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[mike8472]

Axis claims of Allied losses in Persia are exagerated (as usual) Mostly second rate units such as Persian infantry and old Cav units were lost in the retreat and 2 US/Brit motorised divs were lost to bombers but all other mobile Brit/US forces withdrew in good order into Soviet territory.

The Allied outnumbered Far East Army battled against Tojos massive 2,000,000+ Army for 2 years fighting from Burma all the way to Northan Persia with great skill and tenacity. Churchhill salutes them all.
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Hahaha from Burma to Northern Persia, whats that 6,000 miles of Japanese advance. Where were the Americans to save this disaster in Persia???

Hitler finds it amusing that the dreaded soviets, the apitomy of Democracy has now saved whats left of the British and Commonwealth armies from complete defeat. You dont need to salute your soldiers, they fought like the women they are, it is Stalin sitting in moscow you need to thank.

Stalin Elite can you send me a PM with detailed plans of your next moves. I will tell you mine and we can co-ordinate.

 

[Majorball]

Hahaha from Burma to Northern Persia, whats that 6,000 miles of Japanese advance. Where were the Americans to save this disaster in Persia???

The Americans had their hands tied. Because the Japs had been comprehensively thrashed in all areas a NAP was agreed to so they could build up some more Navy for me to sink. Unfortunately the Japs used this time to mass what fleets they had left, all their airpower and every land unit they could find against the poor Brits in India. We shall return...
Nolan send me your plans for the next session....

 

[mike8472]

The Americans had their hands tied. Because the Japs had been comprehensively thrashed in all areas a NAP was agreed to so they could build up some more Navy for me to sink. Unfortunately the Japs used this time to mass what fleets they had left, all their airpower and every land unit they could find against the poor Brits in India. We shall return...
Nolan send me your plans for the next session....

Plans.

Thats easy. Spend the next 6 months transporting troops through Russia to go back to the UK or out via eastern russia to the US or one of your islands. Sends memo to Tojo sink those TPs fleets escourting those troops.

I wonder what all those allied troops are doing to USSRs supplies and TC capicity. Might have to test that out in a few winter battles.

 

[Majorball]

To all players
From this point forward in all our games I am applying the following rule to the basing of my air units even though the game has been started and we are nearly in 1944. You can either follow or stick to your 100 air divisions at an airbase. I want to make airbases something worth fighting for. The limits I am applying to myself are the following:

Airbase size:
1-4 8 Fighters/Interceptors

5-9 16 Fighters/Interceptors

10 24 Fighters/Interceptors(To encourage building of level 10 Airfields)

On top of these limits 8 bombers(not Fighter or Inters) of any sort may fly from such bases in addition to the Fighters or Interceptors limits. Transport planes and Rockets are exempt from any basing restictions.

Dont feel obiliged to follow these restrictions as the game has well and truly been going long enough but I intend do even if I get raped. I feel it will create a better game and more realistic spread of airpower accross the map.

I really think this will give players especially Japan a better chance in the Pacific. At the present moment every player just flys his air into one little tiny airfield in the middle of no where and flys 100 plane divisions from it. There is no reason to put a couple of fighters in an area becasue they just get smashed.

For the players who are not going to use these restrictions let me know. I just want to know where not to put my fighters.

 

[mike8472]

To all players
From this point forward in all our games I am applying the following rule to the basing of my air units even though the game has been started and we are nearly in 1944. You can either follow or stick to your 100 air divisions at an airbase. I want to make airbases something worth fighting for. The limits I am applying to myself are the following:

Airbase size:
1-4 8 Fighters/Interceptors

5-9 16 Fighters/Interceptors

10 24 Fighters/Interceptors(To encourage building of level 10 Airfields)

On top of these limits 8 bombers(not Fighter or Inters) of any sort may fly from such bases in addition to the Fighters or Interceptors limits. Transport planes and Rockets are exempt from any basing restictions.

Dont feel obiliged to follow these restrictions as the game has well and truly been going long enough but I intend do even if I get raped. I feel it will create a better game and more realistic spread of airpower accross the map.

I really think this will give players especially Japan a better chance in the Pacific. At the present moment every player just flys his air into one little tiny airfield in the middle of no where and flys 100 plane divisions from it. There is no reason to put a couple of fighters in an area becasue they just get smashed.

For the players who are not going to use these restrictions let me know. I just want to know where not to put my fighters.

If you do this then I will also follow this.

The only problem I see with this in our present games is in minor countries. Like in north africa at present, I cant order vinchy france to build airbases and I cant put my own there. So makes it hard to build up airbases. Also I lack an Italian player to build his airbases. So puts me at a big disadvantage in that area.

I agree with this idea as it will make it more realistic with fighters spread out all over the map instead of just big blobs.

Thats the only problem I see. Will make it more realistic in russia as well as I need to build alot of airfields to use them effectively in Russia.

Only problem for me I see is with those minor airfields I have no way to build them up and to hard now to plan around its as the game is so far advanced.

 

[Majorball]

If you do this then I will also follow this.

The only problem I see with this in our present games is in minor countries. Like in north africa at present, I cant order vinchy france to build airbases and I cant put my own there. So makes it hard to build up airbases. Also I lack an Italian player to build his airbases. So puts me at a big disadvantage in that area.

I agree with this idea as it will make it more realistic with fighters spread out all over the map instead of just big blobs.

Thats the only problem I see. Will make it more realistic in russia as well as I need to build alot of airfields to use them effectively in Russia.

Only problem for me I see is with those minor airfields I have no way to build them up and to hard now to plan around its as the game is so far advanced.

Yes it may be a problem for you unless we can get an Italian player. However I have similiar problems in Africa with the UK. I am willing to put up with the problems. Better than your or my airforce getting smashed after a battle with a superstack. As I close in on Spain you have lots of nice airbases in Europe to fall back on so I will have to build up plenty of airbases to contest in the skies...as it should be. As the USA airforce gets bigger and bigger there will come a time you will be thankful for these basing restrictions. You may not see it now :rofl:

 

[mike8472]

Yes it may be a problem for you unless we can get an Italian player. However I have similiar problems in Africa with the UK. I am willing to put up with the problems. Better than your or my airforce getting smashed after a battle with a superstack. As I close in on Spain you have lots of nice airbases in Europe to fall back on so I will have to build up plenty of airbases to contest in the skies...as it should be. As the USA airforce gets bigger and bigger there will come a time you will be thankful for these basing restrictions. You may not see it now :rofl:

Well if you can think of a work around for my airbases for vinchy and italy as I cant build any. Only thing I can think of is edits or I can simply match the number of aircraft to the same zies airfield you buildup. So if you increase yours to size 10 I can match the number of aircraft. That is the only work around I can see for the minors.

I agree with your points, my only concern is the above.

What makes you think your going to get any closer to spain. I got news for you and its all bad.