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husty said:
Mike - Italy is a sideshow. It does not have the gates to Berlin.

Its a sideshow...sorry.

The allies are ismply to afraid to face Italy with its impressive forces. Like i said no where have the allies defeated Italy on land through there own offensives. It has been all the Italian initative, as the allies lack the spine to fight.
 
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Hoochy bag, scotch and im ordering pizza later on. I got to work at 9pm tomorrow but i figre i got ill about 4am

Waiting for Silly Americans to walk into house of many varied Ninja's

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Meanwhile Italy waits for the comatosed allies to actauly do something in the Med. Seems the allies have lost the will to fight.

Come get some you panzies.
 

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A good session.

The USA found itself able to exploit the new war with Vichy without Axis intervention, and US armoured forces rapidly overan the entire northwest coast of Africa, meeting UK forces just to the east of Algiers. All of Africa is allied controlled again, bar some west saharan provinces of no value, which themselves are soon to fall.

US bombers, growing by the day, and escorted by modern escorts, have caused minor damage to Axis industry. Night raids were replaced by day raids as Italian and German interceptors proved to be only minor annoyances, rather than real dangers in bombing runs over the Rhur, Tuscany, and Roma.

In the Pacific, the US fleet consolidated itself after the success (with losses) in the Dutch east indies, and launched a large attack against Guam. A large 10 division defensive unit held out in the face of bombardment and air attacks. Learning valuable lessons, the US fleet pulled back, minus 1 transport, but having annihilated several japanese air squadrons.

A further series of attacks against the Mariana's saw Rota fall, with 3 jap divisions wiped out. More Japanese air units were completely destroyed to no US losses as battles raged for Tinian and Saipan. Sadly, these islands held in the face of the first wave of attacks. A second wave is expected to commence immediately. To the north, the Kuriles were the scene of more action as the US navy led a successful attack on the northernmost islands, just south of Kamchatka. US engineers have already built a large airbase, and work on radar and port facilities is near completion. From this base, the home islands of japan can be attacked at will.

Overall, the war so far has seen US victories in Europe in places where the Axis has withdrawn, rather than fight. In the Pacific, the initial japanese offensives were halted, and then wiped out, after which followed a swift rush to their inner defences. It appears these inner defences are a tougher prospect, and FDR has stated that a long battle should be expected. New japanese carrier fleets were even sighted north of Sapporo, in a battle where 4 US level 5 CV's exchanged blows with what is assumed to be the remaining 4 jap CV's (lvl 4). The only loss was a japanese battleship, sunk by US carrier air. With even more new CV fleets arriving often, the outcome for Japan looks dire indeed, whilst Germany is reportedly bogged down deep in the USSR.
 

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joel said:
the outcome for Japan looks dire indeed, whilst Germany is reportedly bogged down deep in the USSR.

Ummm a better description would be routed....50+ Axis divisi0ns about to be surrounded in the Crimea. The speed and agility of Russian forces is far superior to the Axis forces. Many empty rocket tubes were discovered in the advance and the German tanks have so much armour on them they barely move faster then the infantry. The retreat initially started with a cloud of dust which could be seen accross the horizon. Now no sign of any German forces can be found.
 

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The Turn of the Tide

Well may we say it is not the beginning of the end, but it is the end of the beginning.

Pray for a summer if contentment

God save the King!!!

The New British Army emerges.

But what of the bear - who does he eye?

Are we playing tonight?

Say 1900?
 

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El Duce looks out upon the world from his marble balcony in Roma. The situation is indeed dire for the axis.

Japan was the first to falter in there offensives and then rolled back so easily all over the pacific and now the battle for its home islands is sure to follow in the comming months.

In Europe the German offensive made impressive grounds but the damage done to it ground and airforces was to great in the opening 6 months. German forces are now retreating all the way back to berlin to defend the Reich. Italian forces that were on the Russian front will now head home to Italy to defend the motherland from invasion.

Italy has become a fortress and will only become ever more crowed as many more divisions are added ever few months.

Let them come. Italy shall remain strong and bleed these allies dry, then counter attack and win the war.
 
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All this talk of the Doom and Gloom is nonsense.

The Axis in the Pacific are doing just fine. Yes weve lost some men and ships but the great air defeats that Joel speaks of simply just don't exist. Barely 1 interceptor has been lost in the last 6 months of the War, and whilst the Caimpaign in the pacific has ground to a hault we are by no means defeated

The Battle For Saipain was won when 2 Infantry and 1 Militia Divisions repelled an Onslaught of 7 American Pig Mountain Brigades, 2 Marines and some Infantry. Tinian Also held firm as over 12 Infantry, 3 Marines and 3 Armoured Divisions tried to break the Beachhead, Tojo was pleased to report that the Well Experienced Mountain division currently pinned down in the Jungles are performing feats that even giants could not fathom.

Rota was lost to the dispicable American Pigs, but at a very high casualty rate. If all the Islands are to be fought over this hard, then Tojo is please to announce that by 1953 the American population will be redduced to a few indians smoking peace pipes in New Mexico.

The Americans have bought some initiative to the fight which might just turn the war for better or Worse. A Quick reaction force assembled from Kanazawa was dispatched to hault any Troop movements. Newly Built class4 CV's along with the Pride of the the Japanese Battleship fleet engaged 4-5 American Class5CV's (with onterage) and repeeled the invaders forcing them to retreat. Japaneses Naval ambitions have excelerated there pace with Submarines effectively engaging large American Naval stacks and holding there own weight.

What was Interesting about this engagement was that a Superior American task force was not only forced to retreat from battle, but barely had a chance agianst the Emperors Mighty Naval prowess. Is this a sign of failing American Naval ambitions? What will become of America when in early 43 the Japanese Naval armaments minister announces another new 9 CV's deployed for the Japanese commanders?

Secretive Technology is also being forged through at an alarming rate. Japanese scientist have begun research into a new type of weapon dubbed V2'. This new weapon is said to change the pace of warfare as we know it. Any advantage the Capitalist pigs in the Pacific have will soon be washed away as Ports and Airbase turn into 0Structural cesspools. Scientist are also nearing completion of a new energy facility, with 3 such facilitied said to be completed by April of 1943.

The emperor is confident of a Facist victory in the pacific. The loss of some 6 division this past 3 months was said to be a minor setback that wont hault the Japanese empires current plans.

With American Naval supremacy about to be challenged and Aircraft of vast supremacy about to be constructed what will the Future of the Japanese Empire Hold? Russia was said to be a key player in the interests of Japan, but wether this keen interest extends only toKorea and Hong Kong we are yet to see.

Japan has been knocked back a good notch, but the battle for the pacific is still in it's infancy and global supremacy is still far out of reach for any Faction. Whilst Axis news from Europe is somewhat unsetteling the Japanese partners assure our Italian and German comrades that Technological breakthroughs are being forced through so fast that soon a new era of warfare will dawn upon mankind.
 

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Originally Posted by husty

As for our midweek game and its current status, it is by far the best game we have played and has the potential for years to come - with a western vs warsaw pact style war to follow. Great!!!




Maybe how you feel being on the domianting side. Well in my oponion artificaial invasions like Joel did on Denmark and withdrawing. My peace with Japs which seperated the Allies from China. We have diliberately done things to extend the game.
I am happy to play on but its 1942 and Germany has completely collapsed.
Let see what others have to say.
 

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In my oponion this is a dead game artificially kept going special peace deals, invasions and withdrawals etc...Hardly enjoyable for the current German player. I am happy to do what ever the group decides...after all it is Russian tanks that will reach Berlin before the Allies!!
 

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major ball said:
In my oponion this is a dead game artificially kept going special peace deals, invasions and withdrawals etc...Hardly enjoyable for the current German player. I am happy to do what ever the group decides...after all it is Russian tanks that will reach Berlin before the Allies!!

I am happy to go either way. It certainly looks as though oth Germany and Japan have been basicaly defeated early. As Italy i am prepared to play on as im confident of a strong fight for the motherland. However to what end.

So ill go with what the group wants. So i guess its mainly up to gunny, mighty, jh, & joel. Im sure JH wants to play on, so 3 left to decide.
 

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A more important aspect

Consider the deeper meaning of all this,

This means that players really do play to win, and once the result can - PERHAPS - be forseen, then we declare a result!

Meaning I cant see how a game will ever progress beyond say late 1942, as the minute the german army does NOT break the soviet lines, there is the subsequent deduction made that the Germans cannot win, so we may as well stop playing...or vice versa

I fail to understand this, and it means the DNA of every game is basically traced back to the situation in the Nile and mainly the situation in Dneiper.

Surely the fun of the game is to develop new units, technologies, fight in unknown geography, develop unorthodox diplomacy with new leaders etc.

Thats what DD IS!! - its an historical framework, with flights of fancy laded on top. Its not an attempt to be the best guderian...

We are stuck in a groove of thinking that is all about who can build the biggest/best germ or sov army, cos it doesnt matter what happens in GIB, Azores, alex - if the germs break through the sov guys surrenders, if the sov stops him the germ surrenders...The USA entry has made no impact on this in thie game when they have DOW, or other games when they HAVENT DOW.


what about the conquest of China, the taking of Australia, the loss of India, the defence of Spain, the fall of Italy, DDAy, on it goes....

and what about the Allies and Soviets - nuclear exchange, modern panzers, modern fleets....we have never got to this stage...

Its all about winning and putting up a pendant.

I would happily swap sides now and face down the russians all the way back to Berlin.