Attitude towards enemies -60

[TurkishDog]

Am i miss something or calling to offensive war mechanic do not explained properly in game?

So many times ally just do not want go war because of "attitude towards enemies -60" for no reason nor for favor nor for land promise.
In current game i have enemy, also there is some third country, that borders my enemy from another side. That country has militarist ruler and marked some provinces of my enemy as red desirable territory and has slightly above 0 ( like 30-40 ) mutual opinion with my enemy.

I decide to spend some hefty efforts to obtain alliance with that country ( for subsequent cooperative war against that enemy ) like improving relations, royal marriage, insulting their enemy and hiring diplo-advisor. For what? Just to find that they do not want to go war? Despite that they marked this territory ( as mentioned above ) and i ready to provide them with this land aquisitions as a result of war.

Is there any way to know about AIs attitudes about each other ( not just relation digits ) and AI reluctancy to go to war before spending time, efforts and precious diplo-relation slot obtaining some useless ally?

 

[Banedon Runestar]

That -60 malus towards going to war is because your ally has marked your target as "Friendly". The easiest solution is burn some favors by asking your ally to reduce their opinion of your target. However, in some situations you can flip this on the AI by marking their neighbor's as "Friendly" thereby preventing them from calling you into wars you don't want to fight.

 

[subzero12479]

Is there any way to know about AIs attitudes about each other

Yes, by using the opinion map mode. Click on a country's province and hover over another country to see the opinion and attitude of the second country towards the first country.

 

[TurkishDog]

Yes, by using the opinion map mode. Click on a country's province and hover over another country to see the opinion and attitude of the second country towards the first country.

Ahh, thanks! Didn't noticed this mapmod. And dont remember this earlier. Is it from some recent patch?

 

[TurkishDog]

That -60 malus towards going to war is because your ally has marked your target as "Friendly". The easiest solution is burn some favors by asking your ally to reduce their opinion of your target. However, in some situations you can flip this on the AI by marking their neighbor's as "Friendly" thereby preventing them from calling you into wars you don't want to fight.

Ok, i have to spend more time, farming extra favor. Thaks!

 

[Kurfürstin Adelheid]

Happened in my game too but I don't have the favours DLC. So Spain was no help at all in any attacks upon France. It didn't really matter that much but it did mean I had to call them in to fight one of France's allies to break the alliance on occasion. Combined with further annoyances I am now fully committed to wiping France off the map and will eventually invade Spain to have Gallicia as a vassal for role-playing reasons. Also I want Spain out of Italy.

 

[Lykus Cerebros]

In those cases I usually feed my ally one of their Former friends provinces. That tends to break-up an allaince permanently. Have seen them really even after going to war against each other often enough.

 

[Banedon Runestar]

Ahh, thanks! Didn't noticed this mapmod. And dont remember this earlier. Is it from some recent patch?

Nope.

That’s been around since the beginning I think.