Attention modders: 00_defines.lua changed to 00_defines.txt

[Frostwood]

After three hours of attempting to get my mod to work, I finally figured out that 00_defines is no longer a lua file, so any mod that relies on this is broken, so I'm posting this thread to save a fellow modder why his/her mod is no longer working.(It's also one of the first tutorials to get into modding Stellaris.)

Basically anything that relies on something like this: NDefines.NGameplay.ANOMALY_SPAWN_CHANCE = 1.0 no longer works. Which pretty much broke my Anomaly spawn chance mods.

Changing the 00_defines file to a lua file sadly crashes the game.

I looked a few buried bug threads, and there seems to be no solution for now.

 

[Mibri1988]

The only known way actually is to completely replace the 00_defines.txt . But this is not really helpful at all.

 

[Seomis]

They yanked out the Lua parser entirely and implemented their own. It's a pretty stark omission from the change log for something that permanently breaks a huge percentage of mods. I wonder if Divine or wiz or anyone else in the know could speak on it.

 

[Grinsel]

the defines works fine, just that bug, that a second defines brakes that all...but we reported that bug, and i am sure we recieve asap a hotfix for it.

 

[ShadowDragon868]

I was just about to come ask if they stuffed an update by having an intern accidentally headcap the file.

It's a text file, but still formatted exactly the same as the lua file it was. What the epic hell is going on here? Do you have to do a full file replacer now?

 

[RandomZach]

It's a text file, but still formatted exactly the same as the lua file it was. What the epic hell is going on here? Do you have to do a full file replacer now?

It's not formatted the same way. It is no longer valid Lua. The commas have been removed and the comments have been converted.

This is the exact opposite of the direction they should be heading. They should be exposing more code via Lua, not removing it in favor of their very limited, inconsistent, and proprietary scripting language.

If, indeed, there's no way to modify it without just replacing the whole file then it's also a huge step backwards for mod compatibility.

 

[Nerz]

That is just make mods with lua changes not work, or that can make game crashing?

 

[MrSoulbinder]

This is terrible. Needs clarification/fixing asap! BUMP!!

 

[Swizzlewizzle]

Going to paradox script after doing JavaScript and LUA for other projects is literally painful.

 

[Frostwood]

Yes, if you want your mod to work, you will have to 'overwrite' the 00_defines file, so two mods that touch that file will be incompatible. It's not listed in the patch notes, so I assume it's a bug without an official word from paradox.

UI/total conversion mods are probably a no go until this is fixed. You also won't be able to use a mod that say alters tech penalties for research due to pop and one that eliminates military station maintenance together.

It took me a while to figure this out, and my mod is literally one line, so I'm hoping this helps modders.

 

[Grinsel]

u just have to take the vanilla defines, adjust it for ur mod and use it. i have no idea why disagree when i sharing this knowledge....

 

[AlphaAsh]

Yes, if you want your mod to work, you will have to 'overwrite' the 00_defines file, so two mods that touch that file will be incompatible. It's not listed in the patch notes, so I assume it's a bug without an official word from paradox.

It's not a bug. Removing such functionality is a conscious decision. Not warning the modding community is a conscious decision. It's a big fat middle digit at modders and will set many of them at each others throats, competing for subs.

 

[MrSoulbinder]

It's not a bug. Removing such functionality is a conscious decision. Not warning the modding community is a conscious decision. It's a big fat middle digit at modders and will set many of them at each others throats, competing for subs.

I really hope this is not the case. It would make no sense to deliberately undermine the modding community in this way. Maybe they tried to add some new functionality to the script parser... whatever. Anyway, I hope we get a clarification soon.

Edit: There it is, check here. Not working as intended

 

[Mibri1988]

To calm you down:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...onger-supports-individual-overwrites.1009690/

it's known and not working as intended.

 

[AlphaAsh]

Pulling out a lua parser and changing a file extension from .lua to .txt still isn't a bug. At best, it's a massive cock-up.

 

[GotLag]

It's not a bug. Removing such functionality is a conscious decision. Not warning the modding community is a conscious decision. It's a big fat middle digit at modders and will set many of them at each others throats, competing for subs.

Might want to ease up on the paranoia there, champ

 

[AlphaAsh]

Might want to ease up on the paranoia there, champ

Nah, I'm good.

 

[Bruter]

Hi everyone, this is a known issue and we're on it right now. Definitely not working as intended right now.

Thanks @Mibri1988 for making me aware of the thread, hope I could stop some of your fears.

Just in case anyone missed it.

 

[LordInsane]

u just have to take the vanilla defines, adjust it for ur mod and use it. i have no idea why disagree when i sharing this knowledge....

The disagreement would have been because people making mods changing something in defines would have been aware of that method. The problem that it does not addresses - but Paradox' comment that it is a bug does - is that it means that every mod changing something in it, no matter how minuscule, will have to override every other mod changing in it.

 

[anexgohan]

I think its quiet intentional the lua files have been completely changed.