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I can only link to this when I see your post.. hats of to you sir!

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Well, that is another thing to consider. But who said that an Atlantis DLC should be costly? It might be a gift for the 1,000,000 forum user-celebration or something. :p
I'm not worried about cost, I just don't want them to waste resources on a dlc like this. Better then to make further improvements to the game itself.
 

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Maybe that's the problem. It's fantasy but not fantasy ENOUGH to detach people from reality. If Atlantis rose from the depths and rode land Dolphins in to battle that would be crazy enough that people couldn't complain about it ruining their history. (You know, while they marched 100,000 men from Siberia to conquer China with Poland.)

This is exactly why I have no problem with a Zombie DLC but I would refuse to even acknowledge the existence of any silly alternate history DLC.
 

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This is exactly why I have no problem with a Zombie DLC but I would refuse to even acknowledge the existence of any silly alternate history DLC.
I'm the completely opposite way, I have no interest in a zombie or Atlanteans riding dolphins DLC, thats why I didn't buy Sunset Invasion.
As long as it can be turned off, I woudl definitely buy actual, competent alternate history (even with different/additional continents).
 

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I'm betting my money on Atlantis Rising being a codename for some more serious DLC. Maybe something focusing on naval stuff, or possibly on Eastern and South-Eastern Asia (since they have quite a bit of islands over there).

That said, I would still probably buy it even if it was literally about Atlantis rising, or making the mighty polar bear hordes of Jan Mayen playable. I thought SI was pretty interesting, so something similar for EU4 could be neat (as long as the silly stuff is completely optional, as it is in CK2).
 

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China is actually covered very shallowly and much is not represented.

Holy crap you are still here?? I remember you! Backed when I played EU3, I loved the Death and Taxes mod, and your contributions where incredible! Is Death and Taxes alive for EU4? I have not wanted to buy EU4 cause I thought, how could it become superior to a death and Taxes EU3? :p What do you think is better atm?

oh.. off topic sorry guys..
 

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A fantasy DLC would just dilute the EU brand. Better instead to focusing on increasing historical detail and strategic elements.

Leave fantasy "dlc" to modders to develop. Cheaper for you guys and will not consume valuable Paradox resources.

I agree
 

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Holy crap you are still here?? I remember you! Backed when I played EU3, I loved the Death and Taxes mod, and your contributions where incredible! Is Death and Taxes alive for EU4? I have not wanted to buy EU4 cause I thought, how could it become superior to a death and Taxes EU3? :p What do you think is better atm?

oh.. off topic sorry guys..

MEIOU and Death & Taxes merged into M&T.
 

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I will be pissed if they spend time fleshing out buddhism instead of say, fleshing out Europe.

I will be pissed if they add more stuff to Europe instead of East Asia :p

I mean, Jesus ok I agree Europe could receive some more provinces in Ireland/Scandinavia/Italy/Romania but this continent already has:

- Catholicism with its own Papacy mechanic
- Orthodoxy with its own Patriarchate mechanic
- Calvinism with its own Fervor mechanic
- Unique Reformation stuff only for Europe
- Unique Religious Leagues stuff only for Europe
- Unique Holy Roman Empire stuff only for Europe
- Colonisation Race mainly for Europe, as this is the only area in the world where you have stron competition on this field (except late Indonesia)
- Unique National Ideas or National Groups for 90% of countries
- Hella lots of Events for England, France, Spain, Portugal, Netherlands, Venice, Brandenburg, Sweden, Denmark, Poland, Muscovy, Ottomans etc
- Unique Governments for Commonwealth, Netherlands and Milan
- Formable UK, Ireland, Spain, Sardinia-Piedmont, Italy, Germany, HRE, Netherlands, Scandinavia, Commonwealth, Ruthenia, Russia, Romania
- Personal Unions

To compare, Eastern Asia has:

- Chinese factions
- Japanese political mess (okay, I agree, very fun)
- hella lot of Events for Ming and Japan
- formable Qing, Tibet and Malaysia

...that's all.

Not to mention the fact that in Europe everyone and their mother has National Ideas, even Gotland and Wales, while in Orient major factions like Chinese Successor States, Khmer, Champa, Shan , Makassar + half of Indonesia and Indochina lack them.
 

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I know right! Europe even gets its name on the game! Where is my asiopa galaxersalus game??

Answer me on one question: when you buy Victoria II, do you wanna play only as Great Britain under the rule of Queen Victoria?

Because this is what you suggest: anybody cares about the game's title. :p


Since the Art of War and every other area of the world except Europe receiving zillion more provinces and flavour, you can no longer pretend Paradox wants to develop only European <boooring> gameplay. Thus, I expect more in this direction.

I mean, my dreamt direction is simulation of a world with equally playable continents and cultures, not simulation of European conquest of passive and boring world.


+ special gov. mechanism for nomad (more nerf, but this is innormal gov ;) )
+ divine patrons mechanism for Hindu

I was talking about Eastern Asia, not India/steppe hordes. But they could be also given more flavour :p
 

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To the east are the hordes (eg. Manchu). India is often regarded as a region of the Far East.

Okay okay India already has awesome religions, dozens of specific events, dynamic historical events, lots of NIs and cultures but if you really wanna it super super developed I also like this concept (@_@), I just concentrated on my exact definition of Eastern Asia :D
 

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Holy crap you are still here?? I remember you! Backed when I played EU3, I loved the Death and Taxes mod, and your contributions where incredible! Is Death and Taxes alive for EU4? I have not wanted to buy EU4 cause I thought, how could it become superior to a death and Taxes EU3? :p What do you think is better atm?

oh.. off topic sorry guys..
MEIOU & Taxes is even more awesome than D&T ever was, it was formed by merging MEIOU and Death & Taxes
 

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I'm fine with a fantasy DLC. That being said, Atlantis rising from the deep isn't likely. Aside from the fact that PDS have made plenty of jokes like this before, the game isn't designed for an entire new continent appearing in a game underway. I don't think it'd be impossible, but at the end of it, I'm sure the code would look like some sort of malformed demon chimera.