I am planning to devolp for printing press colonialism etc... but renaissance? What do you say Ottoman usually getting it easy and I can get it from them trouble is most likely its gonna take some time 
As Qara Qoyunlu should I devol for renaissance
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As Hisn Kayfa I got renaissance through Trebizond (who got it through Genoese possessions in the Black Sea) in around... 1470? Not worth it to develop if its spreading that way, but Baghdad is an excellent province to develop if Genoa fails.